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message 1: by ♥Xeni♥ (new)

♥Xeni♥ Oh my gosh, so many good books! I highly recommend Mercedes Lackey, who is my all time most favorite author ever!!

Also, Kushiel's Chosen is an amzing book, and I'd read it again anytime!!


message 2: by Valerie (new)

Valerie Wow, this is a really cool selection. :O


message 3: by Jon (new)

Jon I was torn between The Phoenix Guards and Daughter of Empire. It's been years since I read the former, and I'm dying to read the latter.


message 4: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Good list, many temptations to reread, but I went with Daughter of Empire because I've had that on my TBR shelf for far too long.

The Darkness That Comes Before was overwhelming on the first reading, I'd probably pickup quite a bit a second time through. The Farthest Shore is another favorite, though it might be the fifth time I've read it. The Blade Itself could be a good reread, it was great the first time through, but I feel oddly guilty about considering it when I haven't started Heroes yet.

So Feist it is.


message 5: by Melanie (new)

Melanie I read Wicked and it was HORRIBLE. I suggest anything else.


message 6: by Mike (new)

Mike I voted for The Blade Itself because I was planning on reading it very soon anyways.


colleen the fabulous fabulaphile Melanie wrote: "I read Wicked and it was HORRIBLE. I suggest anything else."

Meanwhile, I read Wicked and thought it was WONDERFUL. :>

I'm not voting for it, though, as I have read it twice already, and like to try new things in the monthly reads.

Not remotely surprised that 'The Blade Itself' is in the lead thus far, though.


message 8: by Valerie (new)

Valerie I read Wicked twice, a few years apart, and adored it both times. <3 Elphaba.

I was torn between Territory and Daughter of the Empire... eventually went with Territory, but that's obviously not going to win. :P


message 9: by [deleted user] (new)

Territory sounds interesting as hell, so it gets my vote.

Though several of the others will end up on my TBR.


colleen the fabulous fabulaphile I read Territory recently. It was interesting, but I didn't feel it was nearly as good as it could've been.

Not trying to steer people away from it, though. Just thought I'd mention that I had a copy up for swap if anyone wanted to grab it: http://www.goodreads.com/owned_books/...


message 11: by JSWolf (last edited Apr 20, 2011 09:01AM) (new)

JSWolf Melanie wrote: "I read Wicked and it was HORRIBLE. I suggest anything else."

Speaking of horrible, we also have Ursula K. Le Guin to add to the horrible category. She is horrible and I suggest not voting on anything she writes. Plus it is book 3 in a series and I for one will NOT vote on any book that is part of a series that is not book 1. I am not going to have to rush through two books just to then be able to read the 3rd.


message 12: by Brad (new)

Brad As a group, JSWolf, we've read A Wizard of Earthsea and The Tombs of Atuan already, so it would simply be us building on the reading of theseries. Which is the same situation with Kushiel's Chosen, since we've already read Kushiel's Dart.


message 13: by Julia (last edited Apr 20, 2011 09:25AM) (new)

Julia Ala wrote: Territory sounds interesting as hell, so it gets my vote.

It is, in my opinion. There need to be more western fantasies, I think.* The last time I checked, Bull is working on a sequel. She writes slowly.

*Besides this there's Sarah Canary and The Native Star. Anyone know of others?

I also loved Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West.


message 14: by Valerie (new)

Valerie I'm surprised by how quickly The Farthest Shore shot up.

Also, just so everyone knows, the ebook version of The Blade Itself seems to be on sale for $6.66. :D


message 15: by Amanda (new)

Amanda I voted for The Farthest Shore! I read the previous two books independently so this would be a great opportunity to read the next. I wouldn't say she was horrible per se, but I can see why some readers would struggle with her. Her style initially struck me as a little dry and undetailed and the plots are rather odd, but they are very intelligently written and therefore worth reading. I gained an appreciation for her.


message 16: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Stewart Can't take on another sci-fi right now, in the midst of Against the Day. Could we add that title sometime? The book is a small brick, but it is so amazing I can't stop reading it (and I rarely get past page 200 of any novel). I also realize Pynchon is not exactly viewed as traditional sci-fi, but this book is really the purest celebration of pulp narratives I have come across, it uses the various tropes of early 1900's-era sci-fi and fantasy to advance the story (when I can figure out what exactly that is, I'll let you know).


colleen the fabulous fabulaphile Andrew wrote: "Can't take on another sci-fi right now..."

Good thing this is for fantasy, then, isn't it? ;)


message 18: by Ruby (new)

Ruby Hollyberry Not a fan of LeGuin at all, or anything I've read by Mary Gentle. Voted for Kushiel.


message 19: by Brad (new)

Brad Say it ain't so, Ruby!? I love them both.


message 20: by Ruby (new)

Ruby Hollyberry Read three or four books by each, due to multiple recommendations, and hated every page. Not my style, I guess. In the category of women science fiction writers, my favorite is Melissa Scott.


colleen the fabulous fabulaphile Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister is very different from Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West. Wicked has a lot of social, political and religious satire and commentary, which is one reason why I loved it, but Confessions is a much more straightforward story. And I don't remember there being anything icky in it.

I also thnk Confessions is the second best of his stories, after Wicked. I didn't like Mirror Mirror that much, Son of a Witch was ok (I think I was expecting it to be more like Wicked, and it's not, really), and I never even bothered with A Lion Among Men.


message 22: by Brian (new)

Brian While I greatly enjoyed The Farthest Shore, the fact that it's the third of a trilogy (and it's only a trilogy; rumors of other Earthsea books should be treated like rumors that there were sequels to Highlander) makes it a really bad jumping-on point, albeit a good conclusion to those who have already read the first two.

Daughter of the Empire is a great book, but I would be hesitant to recommend it to someone before they read Magician.


message 23: by Valerie (new)

Valerie I remember liking Confessions much more than Wicked, but it's due for a re-read. I can't remember if I ever got Mirror, Mirror or not, but I haven't read it.

The only Le Guin I have is The Left Hand of Darkness, which I haven't delved into yet.


message 24: by Leigh (new)

Leigh I had mixed feelings about Wicked. I thought the writing style was awesome but some of the plot was kinda dull. Loved the descriptions, though.


message 25: by Ruby (new)

Ruby Hollyberry The only Feist I've read was Faerie Tale, and I didn't like it at all. It struck me as a generic TV movie thriller, not fantasy. I don't read mysteries or serial killer books. Are other books of his better?


message 26: by Andre (new)

Andre Yes, Feist is quite good. I haven't read Faerie Tale, but it does sound more like generic urban fantasy than his other stuff. Try the Riftwar Saga (starting with Magician: Apprentice) for excellent high fantasy with memorable characters and interesting magic systems and worlds. I read several of the books some years ago, but I haven't kept up with the newer series that continue the saga.

I would have voted for Arrows of the Queen, as Lackey's one of my most favorite authors, but I've read it so many times that I thought I would vote for something I haven't read yet.


message 27: by Michael (new)

Michael Drakich I haven't read more than half of these! How can I make an honest judgement? Obviously, I need to catch up on some reading


message 28: by Kim (new)

Kim Mod
Michael wrote: "I haven't read more than half of these! How can I make an honest judgement? Obviously, I need to catch up on some reading"

But isn't the point to read something you haven't already read? I don't know about others but that's how I view these monthly reads.

I feel like staying away from the normal type ones and I'm going to vote for Grunts


message 29: by ♥Xeni♥ (new)

♥Xeni♥ Kim loves to root for the underdog too, I see!


message 30: by Kim (new)

Kim Mod
I guess I do :P I never look at the current votes before I put my vote in. I felt like something with a bit of comedy and Grunts seemed to fit that bill.

The Blade Itself is a great book but I've read it before and only rarely reread a book.


message 31: by Brad T. (new)

Brad T. Grunts looked awesome. I am going to read that one regardless.


message 32: by Michelle (new)

Michelle crikey! whoever picked this list did a marvelous job!

Valerie, thanks for the heads-up on 'the blade itself' being on sale for kindle. finally cheaper than pb = sold! it's been on my TBR for a loooong time now.

I loved 'wicked', right up until the final 1/4 or so, when it sucked horribly.

'the farthest shore' is an amazingly beautiful bit of writing, and easily my fave of that series. I remember starring snippets in the margins, and reading some of them out loud to see if they sounded as lovely out in the world as they did in my head. and yes, they did.


message 33: by Carol. (new)

Carol. PLEASE don't vote unless you intend to read and take part in the discussion. It's a little unfair to have it be a book I didn't choose and only twelve people participating in the discussion.


message 34: by Caleb (new)

Caleb Blake I voted for The Blade Itself as a group read will be the final push I need to purcahse it and read it.

The trilogy has been on my wish list at Amazon for some time now.


message 35: by Brad (new)

Brad Carol wrote: "PLEASE don't vote unless you intend to read and take part in the discussion. It's a little unfair to have it be a book I didn't choose and only twelve people participating in the discussion."

This came up in our last theme discussion (and has been touched on now and again over the years), and we've discovered that there are people who read the book and follow the discussion but don't feel comfortable commenting. Even so, if someone isn't able to read or isn't planning to read then the request has some merit.

Of course, there is always the chance that someone is planning to read the book if their choice wins, so they aren't going to turn up when their book loses.

Interestingly, there are a handful of folks in our group who rarely see their choices win, yet they still end up taking part in the discussions. And they do this consistently. So I do understand where the frustration comes from, Carol.


message 36: by Valerie (new)

Valerie Michelle wrote: "Valerie, thanks for the heads-up on 'the blade itself' being on sale for kindle. finally cheaper than pb = sold! it's been on my TBR for a loooong time now."

You're very welcome! Haven't bought it yet myself, but when I saw the price, I thought "Yes, this is why I got an ebook reader in the first place!"


message 37: by Carol. (new)

Carol. I just don't understand how over 30 people can vote for a winning book and less than a third participate in the discussion. One group I was in had a total of 7 people commenting on the book of the month. I understand if its not the one you wanted.... but if you voted for the winner, I don't understand not participating. As for using groups for their own situation, why vote for a book of the month if you don't want to discuss it? Put it on your personal TBR list, and don't skew results for people who are interested in talking books.


message 38: by Rory M (new)

Rory M Smith Jon wrote: "I was torn between The Phoenix Guards and Daughter of Empire. It's been years since I read the former, and I'm dying to read the latter."


message 39: by Rory M (new)

Rory M Smith I vote for Daughter of Empire


message 40: by [deleted user] (new)

If it means anything, I'll join in on the discussion if Blade wins.

Oh, it doesn't...

okay then...

*sniff*


message 41: by JSWolf (new)

JSWolf Brad wrote: "As a group, JSWolf, we've read A Wizard of Earthsea and The Tombs of Atuan already, so it would simply be us building on the reading of theseries. Which is the same situat..."

But not all of us have and that's the issue. You cannot expect everyone to have read the first X books in a series.


message 42: by Andre (new)

Andre Brad wrote: "As a group, JSWolf, we've read A Wizard of Earthsea and The Tombs of Atuan already...

If the group can't continue a series that's already been started, then no sequel or later book in a series can ever be read by the group. Obviously, the second book in the series was read, so there's already a precedent for being able to continue a series.

On the other hand, it's perfectly valid for those of us who weren't there for that or haven't read the earlier books for whatever reason to avoid voting for a later book in a series and to not participate in the discussion if that kind of book ends up being chosen.

The group just has to understand that if a series is continued, then the rate of participation will be less. Considering there's already a discussion on the fact that the rate of discussion seems to be lower than some would like, it might be prudent to avoid continuing a series this time.


message 43: by Brad (new)

Brad JSWolf wrote: "Brad wrote: "As a group, JSWolf, we've read A Wizard of Earthsea and The Tombs of Atuan already, so it would simply be us building on the reading of theseries. Which is th..."

The thing is, JS, that very few people take part in every single book no matter what is chosen or what place it takes in a series. If you don't want to read A Wizard of Earthsea or Tombs of Atuan to get to the Farthest Shore, then you can opt out of this month's Fantasy (although I can't see anything overhauling Blade Itself at this point). But as a group we do and will continue having the option to vote for a continuation of a series. At this point in the vote 40 people were interested enough in the book to vote for it and put it in second place -- which absolutely justifies my decision to add it to the list of options. Clearly, it is an option that people want, so why should I or would I remove that option because you don't want to have to read the first two books? I shouldn't and won't.

On the other hand, although there have been occassional oversights, I always try to make sure that we never have a subsequent book in a series if the group hasn't read the previous already. We've reached book three in Wizard of Earthsea, and that's the one that will now appear if that series comes up in the choices.

Also, I am somewhere in our group every day, multiple times a day, and it seems to me that we have a pretty healthy set of discussions going at all times. We have our two monthly books, both of which are having decent discussions at the moment. Not the hugest participation we've had, but lively. And we've resurrected the old Game of Thrones discussion which is enjoying a nice explosion of new voices. And then there are all the other discussions everywhere else on the boards.

I think we do pretty well.


message 44: by Brad T. (new)

Brad T. Not knowing what the rankings are until you actually vote is good because it doesn't skew your choice. That said, the books I choose typically end up on the bottom of the list. The last couple months the group has picked books I wasnt interested in reading and because my "to read" list is huge I dont waste time reading something just because its voted by the group.

Its democratic, I am not complaining but don't be mad when I don't read something just because you want to. I will participate in other areas.

(I just realized reading this string of posts how confusing it is to have two Brad's in the group.)


message 45: by Carol. (new)

Carol. Sherri--perhaps I am misreading, but saying "my choices and my decisions appear to be messing up your experience with the group and not fulfilling your needs and wants for discussion" sound like you are attacking me for expressing the wish that people who vote for a book follow through and participate in the discussion. "I'm not sure that your wants and needs necessarily override mine." At that point, you lose me.

Brad--if you look at the "healthy discussions," I respectfully disagree. Last Eon post was April 20; most threads ended discussion April 4-5. Foundation and Game of Thrones are much more lively and lasting threads. "What else are you reading" is more of a recommendation/sharing thread.

I joined this book group because I was interested in talking about fantasy/ sci-fi books. If I just wanted ideas for my TBR list, I'd go to a recommendation or ideas thread. My suggestion was that people not vote unless they were sincere in actually reading and discussing, which I think quite reasonable in light of it being a thread that is supposed to have a discussion component. You don't have to agree, but you don't have to castigate me for it either.


colleen the fabulous fabulaphile "Last Eon post was April 20; "

So.. yesterday, then. LOL


message 47: by Carol. (new)

Carol. A single comment--and right before that, April 13. lol.


message 48: by colleen the fabulous fabulaphile (last edited Apr 21, 2011 09:52AM) (new)

colleen the fabulous fabulaphile Yes, I am aware. I know the threads are languishing a bit.

I also know that a lot of people seem to like to post their opinions and then not contribute anything further - even after their opinions have been questioned or refuted.

But, still, to make your point about the discussion and use yesterday was pretty damn funny.


message 49: by Brad (last edited Apr 21, 2011 10:01AM) (new)

Brad It is interesting, I think, that over the years in this group I have often been the driving force behind attempts to get people to avoid voting if they are not planning on reading. This is truly a long term debate, and after taking part in nearly all of these discussions, I really don't think there is anything to do other than ask people, as you've done, to take a more active part in the discussions. But they will listen to or ignore the request however they want.

Here was the idea I came up with, the only one I could come up with that would achieve the purpose of keeping out everyone who doesn't participate in discussions and is supported by the goodreads software: I make a poll, inform only the people who read and discussed one of the books from the previous month (or two or three), then close the poll as soon as all of those people have voted.

Now, I've never done that because I know there really are people out there, and a significant number, who observe, enjoy reading the discussions, but don't actively participate. I've also never done it because I imagine the outcry would be massive, and it seems to me to go against the spirit of the group.

I am in no way offended when people speak up and ask people who aren't planning on reading to refrain from voting. It is fair comment, and something that does concern those who take a very active role in the discussions.

But as for the discussions themselves, each is only as interesting as we make it. More participation would help. No doubt about it (and this is one of the reasons why Random polls are limited to ten choices and Theme polls are limited to seven choices. Bigger polls leader to more discontent and even fewer readers.). But wider participation isn't the only way to make a discussion work. I noticed that a whole thread was opened up by Colleen in the Eon discussion based on an idea of Carol's. But nothing came of that thread, and Carol hasn't yet posted a comment of her own there (I am really not trying to be critical here or castigate here, Carol, so please forgive the example). I have always found that the best way to keep a discussion going and to broaden its appeal is to keep adding comments, even if one is faced with silence.

So I think this is a good piece of advice for discussion leaders and for members at large -- especially for members at large: if you want to have other people join you, keep posting your own thoughts. Even a small addition to a thread, a sentence or two, could spark something in someone else and bring them into the discussion. So if a thread begins and it is an idea you are particularly interested in, expand on the idea a little. Try and draw other people out. Don't wait for others to join, spark their interest so they will want to join. Ask questions that spark answers.


message 50: by [deleted user] (last edited Apr 21, 2011 10:11AM) (new)

One thing you might try first, as a test run, is: Don't pm everyone about polls.

Just post a thread on the forum that the poll is up. Those who frequent the forum, either to post or just read, will see your thread and then come and vote.

Those who never show up in the forum will never know the poll is open and won't vote.

If that still doesn't work out well, then you can limit it to just those who participate.


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