I've changed the rules a bit.

Maybe it would be easier to just choose the first books for each series, but I think since most classic series have a story by book it would make more sense that way.

What do you guys/gals think?

It's a different approach. With only the first volume, the list will be a more compact sampling of the range of European graphic novels available. If you permit individual books after the first one the list may grow a lot larger, but it will also reflect the relative popularity and influence of each particular series.

As it is, I note there are already a number of later volumes here.

Yes, that's true.

I'm going with this because a lot of series in the main European comics tradition (the franco-belgian one) tend to go for decades and dozens of graphic novels, so the style and the quality of the books tend to change a lot.

For example: Tintin in the Land of the Soviets (first book) is very different from The Castafiore Emerald and if people think that that first book is representative of the series they going to have a wrong idea of it.

I had some good advices from participants so I decided to keep the rules simpler.

Thanks!

How did "Suske en Wiske" not make the list? I know it's written in Dutch but when it comes to European graphic novels it's definitely one of the best (series). That, the "Donald Duck" ones and the "Tina/Noortje" ones. Sadly they're all Dutch. I'm not sure if they've been translated.

Sunnykimmy wrote: "How did "Suske en Wiske" not make the list? I know it's written in Dutch but when it comes to European graphic novels it's definitely one of the best (series). That, the "Donald Duck" ones and the ..."

Hi!

You can always add it yourself if you want to.

And you can add an untranslated version in the case where there isn't a translation in English.

Deleted a few duplicates from the list:

Le Photographe - Tome 1
Le Photographe - Tome 2
Le Photographe - Tome 3
Isaac Le Pirate, Tome 1: Les Amériques

I just added some titles, I checked the list twice and removed a couple I added and were already there. I apologise in advance for any duplicates and/or non-fitting books.

Hey there Periklis. Thanks for voting on this list, you added plenty of cool stuff.

However there's a bunch of books I'm not sure should be in the list.

Like, you added some books created only by argentinian creators. If they are by a non-europena and a european I just they can be on the list. But not if both creators are non-europeans.

Juan Giménez:

Leo Roa: The True Tales of Leo Roa
The Fourth Power

Carlos Trillo and Eduardo Risso

Vampire Boy
Borderline, Vol. 1
Eduardo Risso's Tales of Terror

Ricardo Barreiro:

Cain

There's also some all american creators books I think:

The Silent City
by Erez Yakin (apparently he's from New York)

Dominion

and FLYWIRES


I think the rest is OK. Just tell me what you think about the books I mentioned if you can.

Hey Sergio, thanks for creating this list in the first place. You're right about your remarks and I have removed the conflicting books. I left David Loyd's Kickback Despite being published by Dark Horse. I think the original commision was from a Spanish publisher. I'm really not sure...
One thing that I kept thinking upon is the definition of European creators, by market. In the case of "Metabarons", both creators are Latin American (Jodorowsky is Chilean & Gimenez from Argentina?) but were published by an iconic European publisher (Metal Hurlant) while Jodorowsky lived & worked (and continues to do so) in France. It's not an argument, just something to think upon, especially in Jodorowsky's case.

Thanls for erasing the books. Actually you could have kept one of them - Apocalypse: The Eyes of Doom' writer is italian so it's ok to have it on the list.

I think you're right about Kickback. Wikipedia says it was published first in Europe.


Yeah, I was thinking about that too. It's very hard to decide one way or another. What you said about Jodorowsky is true. I won't take a position either way so if you want to add it, I won't erase it. Only if other voters complain about it.

I've noticed a similar case to the Metabarons one. Aldebaran is written and drawn by Léo, a brazilian who has lived and created comics in France for over thirty years.

I wont' erase either since they can be considered in the border of what can be called European comics.

indeed, from his amazon bio: "In 1974, he was back in Brazil and decided to devote himself to drawing. When Leo discovered European graphic novels, he decided to try his luck in France and settled in Paris in 1981."