Kim wrote: "I managed to get a quarter of the way through this list before deciding it was a) too long and b) incoherent. Why is Diary of Anne Frank on here? Or Lolita? For a list to be meaningful, its entries..."

Anyone who has librarian status can remove titles that obviously are misplaced. Both titles have been removed. Thanks.

Removed from page 5 for not being a mystery no matter how you look at it: Lolita. Also, Gone With the Wind blew off of page 6. Huck Finn has also been removed from p.7.

If there are others that need to go, please let me know what page. I have perused the first 10 pp. but don't plan to go through all 34 pages. If you let me know where you saw it, I can also check the page before and after if nec. in case its position has changed; if I don't find it then, I'll assume someone else has removed it. If there's no page # given, I probably won't get to it unless it's on the first page or two.

I have seen a few books that I don't think are mysteries, but the list-maker has disembarked. I can remove them, but would feel much better about it if someone will either second the motion for those here, or tell me why they qualify as mysteries (some I've read awhile back, and maybe not from your perspective):

* Catcher in the Rye
* Jane Eyre
* Things Fall Apart (p.11)
* The Hunger Games

Every single person on this thread is able to add books. As Susannah pointed out, at the very top of the list are 2 tabs. One says "all votes". When you click on the "Add" tab, a little window comes up and you can type in a title & vote for it. It is (of course) assumed that you have read it.

If there are other titles that you have seen that I don't know about that are absolutely, positively not mysteries, say so and I will be happy to take care of them. Again, if you think titles should be added, that is your job. There are 34 pp. of titles, so do check first to avoid duplication.

One concern here is the subtext. It assumes that the reader has read all of a series if s/he wants to vote for a writer. That isn't always the case, and so the rule fell apart. I'm not inclined to do anything about that. I think the rule was flawed.

John LeCarre A Small Town in Germany. Also there is that series of short story collections _____Noir.

Mike wrote: "Anyone know of a mystery series set in Germany, preferably Frankfurt, that they can recommend?"

Susanna wrote: "Isaac Asimov wrote several novel-length mysteries (albeit often ones with a science fiction setting): The Caves of Steel, The Naked Sun, and Murder at the ABA, are the ones I can think of. From wh..."

Susanna wrote: "Isaac Asimov wrote several novel-length mysteries (albeit often ones with a science fiction setting): The Caves of Steel, The Naked Sun, and Murder at the ABA, are the ones I can think of. From wh..."

The Black Widowers stories are great !!!

@Mickey
Anne Frank's Diary and To Kill a Mockingbird have been deleted, as I fully agree with you (and others) on this subject. I have also deleted The Help, as it really shouldn't have been on this list.

There are lots of other titles in this list which, in my opinion, do not qualify as 'Crime & Mystery Books' either. This list has become a mess unfortunately, to put in plainly.

The Treeman wrote: "This list is laughable. It is full of books that shouldn't be there and books that are basically horrible written."

I totally agree. Anna Frank's diary or To kill a mockingbird had nothing to do with neither crime nor mystery...

There are many books on this list that have nothing to do with neither crime nor mystery...

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Andrew wrote: "An interesting list, but really notable for it's absences. Henning Mankell doesn't make an appearance until #412 (as of Oct 17th, 2008), but his fellow Scandinavians, Indriadson, Nesser, Fossum, Er..."

I totally agree! It's actually quite amazing, their absence!

This list is a joke. Only retarded people would vote Stieg Larsson as number one.

Mike wrote: "Anyone know of a mystery series set in Germany, preferably Frankfurt, that they can recommend?"

http://www.bookssetin.com/p1/624/Fran...

you go

Kim wrote: "I managed to get a quarter of the way through this list before deciding it was a) too long and b) incoherent. Why is Diary of Anne Frank on here? Or Lolita? For a list to be meaningful, its entries..."

I so agree!

Good list but missing many John Sandford and Ridley Pearson novels - - or I got tired of looking : )

The Diary of a young girl by Anne Frank a crime & mystery book??? It makes me wonder if the voter(s) actually read the book...

Why was 'The Hound of the Baskervilles' Removed from this list? It used to be on top. Also, it's gone from my list too & are also other few Mystery Crime books?

EDIT:
Ok I read the top part of adding only first book if it's part of the series. I just wanted to say that all the books in the series rarely have same 'fun' for e.g sometimes the second book is best & sometimes the third etc.

Craig Russell is excellent. Try Blood Eagle. Not in Frankfurt though.Craig Russell

Anyone know of a mystery series set in Germany, preferably Frankfurt, that they can recommend?

The "only vote for the first volume of a series" instruction wasn't originally on this list. I believe it is wrong to change it now and start deleting books.

Furthermore, especially in mystery series, the books are often stand alone, even if they are part of a series. It makes perfect sense, therefore, to vote for each volume separately.

This list is laughable. It is full of books that shouldn't be there and books that are basically horrible written.

So I was thinking of reading either is Dark materials or The Millennium trilogy. I already read materials 1 & 2, and Millennium 1. Any recommendations?

This is my favourite genre! My favourites are The Three Investigators (because they introduced me to the genre) and Agatha Christie because her use of psychology and human nature to solve mysteries.

I managed to get a quarter of the way through this list before deciding it was a) too long and b) incoherent. Why is Diary of Anne Frank on here? Or Lolita? For a list to be meaningful, its entries should conform to the definition. Since the list was created by a "deleted user," has it gone feral?

Flashes of Revenge

Abbey wrote: "I'd love to have a list with just the title/author for all of 'em - yeah, I'm quite mad, but I love lists! (and mysteries...) Anybody know how I might arrange for that? The only way I've thought o..."

I would like a downloadable list of this kind as well. and/or the ability to "select all" of the books and add them to a category like "For consideration."

You can add books to the list at the top of the page, next to where it says "all votes."

I'd love to have a list with just the title/author for all of 'em - yeah, I'm quite mad, but I love lists! (and mysteries...) Anybody know how I might arrange for that? The only way I've thought of is extremely cumbersome - going through, one-by-one and adding them to a new shelf! ick. Please, please tell me that *somewhere* there's an actual list (no covers or blurbs, etc.) just the titles and authors???

Im normally into historic fiction

Senordaffy wrote: "where are martha grimes, len
deighton, le carre, steinhauer, and many others ?"


You could try voting for them.

to andrew:
will try more scandinavians. list is not by quality
of writing, obviously. where are martha grimes, len
deighton, le carre, steinhauer, and many others ?
agree with dan brown observation. so illiterate that he used 'from vinci' rather than leonardo in his title, as in 'the from vinci code'. not even a writer. popular only because his 'sacred feminine' gimmick appealed to u.s. women's vanity.
larsson not so good, either. pubishing these days
is getting to be like a hollywood insider called the
movie business - 'all hype'.

Andrew wrote: "An interesting list, but really notable for it's absences. Henning Mankell doesn't make an appearance until #412 (as of Oct 17th, 2008), but his fellow Scandinavians, Indriadson, Nesser, Fossum, Er..."

You add books to the list up at the top, next to "all votes."

Tell No One

You add books to the list up at the top, next to "all votes."

Great debut novel. Could hardly put it down.

My Scorpio Soul

Doug wrote: "Where in the world is John Sandford? He is arguably among the top five active American mystery writers."

Agreed. His 'Prey' series with Davenport is excellent.

haha..never thought interview with the vampire was a book.LOL.i recommend you guys to read list of 7 by mark frost,,,,best book i've ever read...better than the lost symbol,though it's also satisfactory.:))

I agree with Luis, Robert B. Parker belongs on the list on the basis of his great body of work.

I am a little surprised that (1) Robert B. Parker's Looking for Rachel Wallace, Mortal Stakes, Small Vices, etc. and (2) Robert Ludlum's The Bourne Identity, or The Janson Directive... are not here.
Well, I'll vote for them!

Really sad that Crime and Punishment is hundreds of spaces below Dan Brown. And what the hell is Interview with the Vampire doing here?

You could vote for him.

Where in the world is John Sandford? He is arguably among the top five active American mystery writers.

totally cool book, THO

Yes, I did a dup list. How can I delete it?

Think I created a list like that last night but will double check in case I duplicated lists.

falling asleep,
Alice

As wrote: "I went to 781 or so and NEVER found Ann Rule! Did overlook her? She should be number ONE!"

Ann Rule is probably listed under TRUE CRIME

I went to 781 or so and NEVER found Ann Rule! Did overlook her? She should be number ONE!

Thom wrote: "In Cold Blood and Fatal Vision are both TRUE CRIME non-fiction works.....IF we put True Crime on this list, then clearly Anne Rule and Doc Olsen should listed."

I found In Cold Blood but not any by Ann Rule and was wondering. There is nothing so terrifying as The Stranger Beside Me!..... and it took them so long to catch him!