(member since Apr 16, 2010)
comments from the Outlander Series
I have a theory - are the bad reviews written by men who are jealous of Jamie?
I'm stupified at the bad reviews. DG is THE most incredible writer. How could anyone rate these books low just considering the writing, the history and the character development? They are easily the best books I have ever read and I have been a confirmed bookworm for 45 years. And really now women, how could anyone NOT LOVE AND ADORE JAMIE??
Wendy wrote: "Has anyone seen the reviews for Outlander on Goodreads. I get so irritated every time I see it."
No where are they and what do they say?
I know I would be outspoken like Claire and would have an independent spirit and a profession like her - sure, maybe medicine. I would want to be married to Jamie though, so I guess I WOULD BE Claire. Although if I had any say in the story I would live nearer to a town and have several beautiful healthy children with red hair and long straight noses!
Sharonh wrote: "LOL Maricat...how'd you know it was me?????? Girl, I'm tellin' you....I know Jamie's body is hot, hot, hot. I like scars!!!!! Daaaayyyyyummmm."
Gee I don't know, just a feeling? Or maybe the photos on your profile??? And I agree, I think scars are sexy, although I feel sad for the way they get there - makes me want to make it all better,y'know what I mean?
Outlander is first. But I absolutely loved DIA. It was such an intricate and incredible book.
Women in this discussion, 50s is not that old! I know lots of men in that age group who have great physiques (and also some who have pot bellies). When I picture Jamie in his older years I see him with some scars, but they do NOTHING to detract from his smooth, hard muscular body. Ahem. And I have to say, when I saw the title of this discussion, and before I looked at the first post, I just knew it was Sharonh who started this!! LOL.
I can see now that I'm in denial! Thinking about the pain of the one left behind just kills me. If it can be arranged for them to be together in eternity then I will be happy. I will have faith!
I have been out of these posts for along time and am sure I have missed a lot. But I have to ask...why does everyone think that we will be reading about either Jamie or Claire dying? Did DG say that is how she is going to end the series? I have been hoping that I simply will not have to read about the end of their lives - either of them. I am sure that DG, as creative as she is, can tie up the series prettily without having them die. So everyone, what am I missing here???
Eva wrote: "Mairicat wrote: "Eva wrote: "Shell wrote: "Eva wrote: "Ok, so WHO was molesting her leg????"
I don't know... It was never real clear. They suspect some creepy dude, who had the hots for her, bu..."
Oh! Thank you for the explanation.
Eva wrote: "Shell wrote: "Eva wrote: "Ok, so WHO was molesting her leg????"
I don't know... It was never real clear. They suspect some creepy dude, who had the hots for her, but I'm not sure. Although, tha..."
Oh great! I was hoping it was Jamie. But I have to ask, what is "Meh?"
Lisa wrote: "Leah..The Dorothy Dunnett series is phenomenal, but it is written in far and away a different style than any historical novel I have read. It was written in the very early sixties, consisting of 6 ..."
I am having a terrible time getting into Game of Kings (am about on page 50). Frustrating since I know it must be a very good book. I get some of the literary references and some I don't. I don't want to give up (I love "meaty" books), but hope it gets more interesting soon.
I just finished the Karen Marie Moning "Fever" series. A little crazy but addictive.
Regina wrote: "Jessa, I had been thinking it was 3 years from now, but if there are excerpts! ...... :)"
Somewhere I thought Diana said it would be 2013. So that's what I'm counting on so I'm not disappointed. There are excerpts but she also commented that in another of the books there were hundreds (or did she say thousands??), of excerpts on Compuserve before the book was released. And there are only a handful so far on book 8. I just hope she keeps 'em coming. Help! Throw us a rope here!
Lisa wrote: "Thanks for the response Kim. I admit I nearly got snotty when one person called John a whore...might have been slut, but who remembers...and that person or another mentioned him forcing a slave...w..."
I have read all the LJ books and I do love him - he is just such a COOL character with such wonderful humor and honor. I don't know who called him a whore of slut but I did comment that with the slave, although LJ would never force anyone, there was an imbalance of power so that even if the slave wanted to refuse he might have been afraid to. Nevertheless...I adore these books no matter what DG throws at us!!
Jessa wrote: "Yay, Mairicat! Our 'minority' group is slowly building. LOL. I totally get what you're saying. Claire and LJG love each other...not in the way Jamie and Claire love each other, but they still h..."
My thoughts exactly. There are others in other threads who agree with us too! Maybe those who totally hate the Claire/LJ connection have just been more vocal. Which is awesome really - makes for great discussions. How boring would it be if no one disagreed?!
Kimberly wrote: "Nope, you're not alone! I also get why a lot of readers are unhappy with the Claire/LJ development, but I really can understand the reasoning behind it (for all the reasons you listed before). We..."
I can join you in the minority. I was a little surprised, but not too much by the Claire/LJ thing but can easily see how it happened. So true about the human touch and comfort. It's not exactly like they had the hots for each other or that LF suddenly "turned" straight. I don't know how forgiving I would feel about one of those implausible circumstances!
Well I guess I am "Team Claire" too. I don't like Leghair either and I don't make excuses for her. A sixteen year old even with a broken heart doesn't send someone to her probable death unless she has psychopathic tendencies...even in the 18th century! And I am not fond of people (even fictional), who purposely hurt others. Love, lose, and move on. I don't feel sorry for her either She knew when she married Jamie that his heart and soul were engaged elsewhere. That was a doomed and hapless marriage, but he was good to her and the girls. My reason for not liking Leghair? She's a nasty brat.
There'e no way I would have missed reading Echo! All the characters we love plus some new lovable ones. Just a little slow at times then a roller coaster at the end. And what a lot of emotions the end generates - frustration, sadness, anger, relief, anxiety, hope. Diana really got us with this one!
HAHA, "Bumping uglies;" that's hilarious!!
I just started reading this thread and everyone has had great comments to the original questions. I would just like to add that Jamies married Leghair and not Mary McNabb or anyone else because we had a history with L and it certainly added drama to the storyline. Mary M. was rather nondescript...and I can't see Jamie with someone like that even though I was not happy that he married L. I am not her fan I guess Jamie had to see her for some kind of closure. I do wish he hadn't worn his good shirt. Why show respect for the creature who tried to lure his wife to her death?? That's the part that stumps me, not why he went to see her but why he was so darn nice to her. L does have one redeeming quality in my eyes - she raised Marsali who is a really lovely young woman.
Regarding Claire being so "forgiving" about various things, I think she knows she holds Jamie's heart and soul and and is just very much okay with herself in general. Plus she is genuinely warm and generous and that is why she could never be less than forgiving about Willie. I'll bet she will come to love him.
Echo was not my favorite book but it was better the second time around. I'm sure DG is setting future storylines by focusing more on others and not so much on Jamie and Claire. That makes me sad!!
Oh and I LOVE the OC, can't wait for the next one. It adds such insight and answers a lot of questions.
Jacki wrote: "That helped a lot, thanks!!"