Boreal Elizabeth Boreal Elizabeth's comments (member since Aug 18, 2008)


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435 jesse jackson on election night-from martin to barak
coretta scott king
eleanor roosevelt
oops the question is life not just one day or moment
i still like charlemagne
saul had a crazy life
joan of arc
euripides
homer
galileo
madame cure
ingres
magritte
mary cassatt
jung
Feb 10, 2009 08:08PM

435 haha
my children were assigned lord of the flies multiple times but i remember reading it "on the sly"
like shirley, all i got in school was "the canon"
old dead white guys
dickens, shakespeare, etc.
tolkein, salinger, asimov, even steinbeck were all "radical" reading choices and i was looked at as a little suspect for reading them
i also abhored the excerpted reading predominate in jr. high
homer was the watered down version-poor translation-poetry removed-condensed version
real reading was done outside of class but i do think a love of reading starts well before jr. high
i remember the library as being an important influence and can almost feel those warm bean bag chairs now
i also have to credit rowling for making a reader of my youngest son
and she turned me into a fan as well
i think perhaps assigned reading is the real culprit
but also don't think total choice is the answer
perhaps a hybrid of the two would be ideal

Feb 03, 2009 12:11PM

435 sort of off the development of the thread but on topic, kinda
i love where i live
i get on a bus that goes to the esl school and i routinely hear italian, and german and sometimes french as well as spanish
i love being in a city with so many languages
Dec 25, 2008 11:16PM

435 thank you manuel
we had a wonderful christmas evening and day today and i hope you and yours and everyone here had a wonderful one as well
Dec 24, 2008 07:57PM

435 it's christmas eve and i'm still trying to find a way into this argument
but in honor of the holiday i just want to offer my love and support to those living in poverty tonight
women and their families and men and their families who for any reason
bad choices, good choices, unfortuate events, generational impoverishment, reasons do not matter
i am sorry you have to live in hardship and i understand that the normal small pleasures are denied you, that a decent meal, warm housing and clothing and safety for your family is all that matters and i hope all of you will have those things
very soon
enough food to eat and enough money to retain your dignity
god bless you and keep you tonight and tomorrow and everyday afterwards
Dec 23, 2008 06:53PM

435 thank you
you too!

(and everyone here)
Dec 19, 2008 04:29PM

435 thank goodness
i want to learn more languages but i think we (me) are incredibly lazy
i think our brains might always revert to our primary language as mentioned in the czech women who developed alzheimer's but i think most of us (me) don't learn other languages because we don't have the focus and impetus to unless we have to
and then we pretend that it is difficult
Dec 19, 2008 04:24PM

435 awww the link is gone
Dec 17, 2008 05:47PM

435 i had a friend in high school who was from the philippines
she acclimated and learned english quickly then moved to california
i saw her at our reunion
she was much less fluent in english at that time
she told me her family had moved to a philippine community and had not been allowed to mix much with americans
she retained her philippine heritage but in isolation from the country she now lived in
so...i guess i would say there has to be some balance
as a fourth generation irish american, i know very little about ireland and my heritage and don't know a word of gaelic-or course the irish have their tradition of totally suppressing the language
my step mom however is vietnamese and is fluent in english and vietnamese
she lived in both strictly american communities and communities with a lot of vietnamese immigrants so has had opportunities to speak both languages

Dec 14, 2008 12:57PM

435 i will get back to you-i'm just taking a breather
Equality (15 new)
Dec 14, 2008 12:55PM

435 on the latter, my opine is resources, exploitation of resouces, favorable climate as well as serendipity
Dec 12, 2008 10:32AM

435 you missed the first part of my first sentence

it's important to the meaning of my question

again, i'm requesting that you stop misrepresenting my opinion

the basis of our argument is that we disagree on the premise that welfare pre reagan and bush and clinton
rewarded people for not working and that welfare reform was a good thing

and that loans to the auto industry are not corporate welfare

in essence, welfare recepients were undeserving but auto workers are deserving

if you disagree with these premises, let me know
because i don't want to misrepresent your position
Dec 11, 2008 07:41PM

435 "A.E. may get her wish and our auto manufacturing jobs may disappear;"

again, didn't say i wished for that

i said, why are auto jobs more sacred than construction jobs?

i said, i wished we would put money into public transportation, (glass, metal, wiring, etc. same basic stuff auto workers and their support companies use, hmm...)

please don't put words into my mouth or attribute wishes to me that i don't have
Dec 10, 2008 10:36AM

435 i never said cars should vanish altogehter
i suggested we should look at our wants and needs
and maybe do without what we want to be able to maintain what we need

what i said was we should not give the big 3 the bridge loan
and i'm not even sure of that


i just haven't heard a good argument for giving them the money
if we do, i think we need some big strings attached
and yes, holy rat capers! ;)
Dec 09, 2008 06:24PM

435 how many people in your family?
Dec 09, 2008 06:10PM

435 "for good or bad, the automobile industry is all we have left"

I have yet to hear a good rationale for loaning the money..."all we have left" is not a good argument, as for other industries being affected, that is always the case, the downturn in the housing market has taken out bankers, lawyers, real estate salespeople, admin staff, furniture sales, household goods, advertisers, webdesigners, graphic companies, construction workers, engineers, constuction materials plants, and on and on. Any big industry will be the same, that is still not a good rationale for loaning money to an inefficient industry.
If the demand for cars is not there and we continue to be the providers for the operating lines of credit, at what point do we stop?
Do we save the auto industry no matter what?

and i like your light rail idea marion-now how do we get the auto execs to warm up to the idea
i wanted to take public transportation to a town an hour away from me recently
it was basically a straight shot and highly traveled by car but
it would have taken me 3-4 transfers but over 4 hours of traveling because there were multiple providers not one system and there was no coordination of routes and schedules between them


still processing the illinois senate seat selling debacle
holy rat capers batman!
Dec 09, 2008 03:50PM

435 i know!
now who gets to appoint the new gov and the new senator?
Dec 09, 2008 03:21PM

435 funny and irreverant but pragmatic
enamored
besot
by the thought

i also really liked the movie armageddon
just watched it recently
my surrealistic nightmare comment was an allusion to it
either george was punning on my inside joke or he got it
i love it when people get my jokes
cause i am that egocentric
so shoot me
or line me up a manufacturing job

now seriously, i have to get back to work
what do i do?
i work for a bankruptcy attorney
front row seat to the end of the world george ;)
Dec 09, 2008 01:06PM

435 "can we stop the comet with a green force field?"

i have to get back to working at work today but i wanted to thank manuel and someone else up there for supporting my comments and i'll read the rest of this discussion later...

and i have to say...george...i'm enamored by your turn of phrase above ;)
Dec 08, 2008 06:34PM

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