Skip Skip's Comments (member since Mar 09, 2010)


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4170 I liked it, but I started reading Andre Norton back in the 1970s. It was written for a younger audience because the whole genre in the 50s and 60s was aimed at a young male demographic. SF had a reputation as a pulpy genre, so books were edited to be relatively short.

I also read it in one sitting, so it's hard to feel like it dragged. I also knew what to expect from a book of this vintage, so maybe people just expected a more modern feel to it.
4170 I read nearly all her early SF work back in the the 1970s. Someone in my town library must have liked her. I remember Plague Ship in particular, but I liked all the Space Queen books.

It was a great gateway to C.J. Cherryh and Azimov. They are great quick reads. They won't read as a modern genre novel, because they were written in a different time for a different audience. I remember them all fondly though.
4170 Andre Norton was one of the first authors I read in SF when I was 8 or 9 in the late 70s. These short and fast paced books are part of what hooked me for life. It will be interesting to read again for the change in worldview as much as anything. I personally enjoy the anachronisms in older SF, you have to accept the time people wrote in as much as the time they are writing about.
May 24, 2016 02:48PM

4170 Rick wrote: "Some of your proposed measures are reasonable in the sense that they don't violate physics as we know it, but they require a fair bit of highly advanced tech *and* a society rich enough to do those things without committing significant chunks of the GDP to accomplish them. "

Right, I made those suggestions just to point out the amount of time, effort, and technology that is required. I get the impression that the author may have been buttonholed at a few too many conventions by bright-eyed enthusiasts and this was his way of "well actually" -ing them.
4170 I really didn't get the feeling was anti-colonization as much as it felt like a long-form answer to all the people that want to colonize now. Exploration is hard, but it is nothing compared to colonization. Living planets are likely biological death-traps, where any planet able to support without much effort is likely to have life that will prove inimical to humans. Dead planets can be teraformed, but only over very long periods of time. Keeping people alive long enough to make either habitable is not an easy proposition, even if you can get them there.

The end didn't bother me. (view spoiler)
May 24, 2016 12:28PM

4170 I had two questions and a comment. I'll hide them all in the interests of those that haven't finished.

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May 24, 2016 10:31AM

4170 I was fine with it. I agree it could have ended with the ship's POV. Once it started though, I felt the "How Stela Got Her Grove Back" section was needed to end the story.

I had more issues with the waves, not that she got in trouble, but how she got whacked the second time. But that's the former lifeguard in me talking.
Jun 04, 2015 05:07PM

4170 Expect to hear "I'm pretty much screwed" or something like that because in the U.S. PG-13 means only one f-bomb. There's no way with this cast that they go for an art house R-rated movie.

I like that they cast very strong actors in the main NASA roles. I expect we won't get a "Cast Away" like span of film with just Matt Damon, unless the movie goes to Peter Jackson length running times.
Feb 10, 2015 06:28PM

4170 Ars Technica has a post up about it here.

I would like to see it done right. You could actually shoot it all in very little time if you structured it out right, you'd just need six different crews to film it all. Because once the storyline starts to diverge it really goes in different places for long stretches of time.

And the editing would depend on who ends up running the show. If it is HBO or Showtime, expect to get all of the "Elayne takes a bath for two books" storyline. I think everyone will edit down the emo-Perrin sections though.
Feb 10, 2015 06:22PM

4170 Ah, I must have missed it when I was looking through the new posts.
Feb 10, 2015 04:21PM

4170 Ars Technica has a post up about the Wheel of Time pilot you probably missed Monday on FXX here.

Tldr is that Red Eagle Entertainment (a Universal company) has owned the rights to produce a Wheel of Time based television show, and hasn't done anything with it - until now. Apparently they were set to lose these rights unless the produced something, so they rushed this "pilot" into production. It is a 30 minute show purchased in infomercial space and broadcast with no promotion for obvious reasons.

Let's hope for better if they ever do an actual production, after all this is a big series that actually has an end already written.
Feb 01, 2015 10:20PM

4170 WorldCon offers a Hugo voters package if you can't go. $40 US gets you all the materials and the right to vote. Publishers have been good about providing the full material nominated for voters. Last year Tor provided the entire Wheel of Time; Orbit had most of the other favorites, so they only provided a sample of theirs. Even then, there was easily $40 of value in there.
Jan 26, 2015 06:33PM

4170 I got my nomination notice too, we should all get our ducks in a row, because it doesn't take much to get a nomination through, for related work (52 votes last year) or fancast (35 last year - S&L got 29).

Winning in related works takes a bit more (597 1st place votes/1282 final votes) than for fancast (209/566).
Sep 04, 2014 10:34PM

4170 I is Washington Irving
Aug 31, 2014 10:34PM

4170 A few character specific ones:

Kvothe and Denna: Romeo and Juliet by Dire Straits, much too appropriate.

Fela : Brick House the Commodores.

Sim: She Blinded me with Science Thomas Dolby

Elodin Swan Swan H by REM

Ambrose: I'm too Sexy by Right Said Fred

And a spoiler for WMF
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Kvothe And Denna (62 new)
Aug 31, 2014 09:52PM

4170 They are both broken in the worst possible way for each other. Kvothe is clueless to many things people expect him to see because he is so good at everything else, and when he misses it with Denna, it's like watching a car wreck in slow-motion.

They could save each other if they just spoke to each other without fear, but life has hurt them too badly for either to open up to the other about some subjects.

It is hard to attribute motive to Denna, because we are getting Kvothe's story; and even in hindsight I'm willing to bet he didn't understand all that went on there. In the final book we may find her a villain or victim of fate, but I don't expect anything other than a tragedy for this part of the story.

Oh, and Dire Straits' Romeo and Juliet plays in my head with these two, because I am an eternal optimist. (My god that video director was literal, even for the 80s.)
Aug 31, 2014 08:55PM

4170 Darren, in my mind you sound like Peter Falk (Princess Bride Reference).

As you wish
notw: The Lute (19 new)
Aug 31, 2014 08:30PM

4170 I'd defer to any lute players, but the issue is likely one of sound. They are likely playing the bass line with their thumb and the melody with their fingers. The melodic line needs several fingers to be fully developed, and the thumb would accompany the melody. This is not usual in guitar playing, except with finger-style guitar playing country and blues players (Chet Atkins or Mississippi John Hurt) or those influenced by them (Mark Knopfler). The lowest registers on the baroque lute also extend beyond the neck, so they can really only play the note to which they are strung.

Also, the necks on those things are mammothly wide, even if you could fret the notes, you only have four fingers to place, leaving you with a more limited choice of what to play. It's not like you can wrap your thumb around the neck on one.

Oh, and here's a link to Stevie Ray Vaughan on an acoustic Guild 12 string. That is what I think Kvothe sounds like when he "needs to burn".
Aug 29, 2014 10:53PM

4170 I agree, I'll probably nominate it as such. Oh, and I think Lindsay is a male person.

I liked Neptune's Brood much better than AJ, but I realize a plot device around complex financial arrangement isn't going to connect that broadly. That and I liked Equoid better anyway, and he won for that one deservedly IMO.
Aug 29, 2014 09:03PM

4170 I read that post and I agree with you, but Lindsay is right, and many people's perception was that it was a boondoggle to get WOT an award. That said, if the convention was in Atlanta, for arguments sake, and not London, you may have seen a different result.

Artistic awards always bug me a bit, because it is like arguing over which shade of blue is better. It is a way to recognize works that both were popular and well written, so I commend them for the effort, but it really doesn't affect my perception of the books at all.
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