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Jun 21, 2014 11:12AM

35559 hello photo: hello 1690578esstd8p6kl.gif

Hello everyone who is new. Sorry for not saying it sooner, but we have a welcome thread and I, for one, didn't see this thread. Here's the link and welcome:
Jun 21, 2014 05:10AM

35559 I hope you can see it. They changed things quite a bit. The guy who was to marry the best friend doesn't appear to have been married before. Makes you wonder how that story line would have gone. There are also mother and father role reversals for at least two characters and the aunt is gone from the equation all together. I always wonder why they do those types of things?
Jun 20, 2014 08:01PM

35559 For those of you who were disappointed Delirium pilot never made it to your Television, HULU has just released the one and only pilot episode and you can watch it for free on your computer. There are spoilers from all three books so make sure you've read them before watching. They changed things around quite a bit:

If you watch it, tell us what you think. Would you have watched the series?
35559 Greta, I agree with your early views on Jacquetta and Elizabeth. I hope we see Elizabeth change by the end of the book.
35559 ****Thoughts and Comments For Autumn 1470 (Page 211) through Summer 1472 (Page 327)

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35559 So how far in is everyone? Has anyone finished?
35559 Nicole wrote: "They keep on mentioning Henry Tudor's nearness to the throne in terms of succession but I must have missed something somewhere.

Can anyone tell me how he has a claim to the throne on the Lancaste..."

Henry Tudor is the son of Margaret Beaufort. She was the daughter of Margaret Beauchamp of Bletsoe and John Beaufort, 1st Duke of Somerset. Margaret's father was a great-grandson of King Edward III through his third-surviving son, John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster.

If you look on Lancaster/York family tree (at the front of the book) which begins with Edward III, you'll see John of Gaunt listed under Edward III. From there use the above to deduct lineage.

You'll also see where the French lineage comes into play among the Tudors. FYI usually, but not always, the crown passes to the male descendants of a line and the women are overlooked.

Henry Tudor is missing in the family tree. Perhaps he was born after the book started? I'm guessing that is why the marriage of Elizabeth and Edward as well as their children are not included.
35559 I'm hoping to, but I'll probably be a day or two behind.
35559 I got behind this weekend, I wasn't feeling good and then hubby decided we should buy a new van so I've been test driving vehicles. I'm going to try to read today.
35559 How is everyone doing so far? Don't forget to tell us how far you are and what you think.
35559 *** Thoughts and Comments for a little over 100 pages through Summer 1470 ****
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35559 Kristie wrote: "No worries. I was just going by the goodreads genre info. It seems that everyone had it listed as something different. There are plenty of good nominations already, so I'll just wait for next month."

I know, that's what kept me going back and forth. The genre info, unfortunately, is not always accurate. Besides the people I asked, author Gail Carriger reviewed it and said it "I would call Geist traditional fantasy"

It actually sounds good, but not like urban fantasy.
35559 Kristie wrote: "I'll nominate Geist
Geist (Book of the Order, #1) by Philippa Ballantine

Between the living and the dead is the Order of the Deacons, protectors of the Empire, guardians against possession, sentinels enlisted..."

I've been going back and forth about this nomination and several people I call experts on Urban Fantasy agree this is not an Urban Fantasy novel, but a traditional Fantasy novel. So I'm disqualifying this nomination. If you'd like to nominate something else, Kristie, please do.
35559 ********Questions for the first 100 pages and beyond********

What do you think of the witchcraft angle to the story? I believe this was a family that was rumored to use witchcraft in history. I figure it was just another tactic that was used when all else failed.If you couldn't find any dirt on someone, accuse them of being a witch.

35559 Is it quick reading?
35559 You can't keep yourself from looking can you? lol Will do in the future. Does everyone know how to use the spoiler HTML?
35559 I should probably mention this is my first Cousin's War book and first Philippa Gregory book. A friend told me how wonderful this series was and so I couldn't resist joining this one.
35559 I have to say as far as portraits of monarchs I've seen go, these two are definitely a good looking pair.
35559 I have read the first 100 pages in my book. It's the hard copy and my be large print. It went over the first section (Spring) and about 10 or so into the next (September).

Since we'll be stopping at different points, try to use a spoiler tag.

************ SPOILERS for the first 100 Pages from Spring 1464 to first 10 pages or so of September 1464***********

So far I'm okay with all the people. I'm not confused thus far.

I'm loving the books so far. I love how Elizabeth got the better of Edward with the dagger.

So she reeled him in with magic? That's kind of interesting.

I think to catch a King and not have political ties you'd have to do some fancy foot work and to keep him you'd need even more. And she's 6 years his senior.

The foreshadowing is pretty thick with that prologue or introduction. Sounds like faithfulness will not be the King's strong point. Will Elizabeth be his downfall? I'm not up with the history of what happened in this time period.

I was a little shocked to hear the King had pretended to marry another woman so he could bed her. I'm surprised he actually acknowledged this marriage.

Good thing Elizabeth told her brother about the marriage. I wonder what her father truly thought of everything?

Her mother sounds very interesting.

Sounds like Elizabeth and her family will need to watch their backs from now on. Want a quick way to gain enemies? Marry a monarch with power.

Here are pictures of Elizabeth & Edward IV:

Both pictures are from Wikipedia commons and are no longer under copyright.
35559 Panic by Lauren Oliver
Panic by Lauren Oliver
Panic began as so many things do in Carp, a dead-end town of 12,000 people in the middle of nowhere: because it was summer, and there was nothing else to do.

Heather never thought she would compete in Panic, a legendary game played by graduating seniors, where the stakes are high and the payoff is even higher. She’d never thought of herself as fearless, the kind of person who would fight to stand out. But when she finds something, and someone, to fight for, she will discover that she is braver than she ever thought.

Dodge has never been afraid of Panic. His secret will fuel him, and get him all the way through the game, he’s sure of it. But what he doesn't know is that he’s not the only one with a secret. Everyone has something to play for.

For Heather and Dodge, the game will bring new alliances, unexpected revelations, and the possibility of first love for each of them—and the knowledge that sometimes the very things we fear are those we need the most.

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