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Jul 24, 2012 02:10AM

289 Well, as long as I can get a copy of the book, I'm up to any of her books really :D
Jul 23, 2012 07:46AM

289 If Louisiana counts as children's book, I'd nominate this one.
Mar 20, 2012 09:17AM

289 Sera wrote: "I could see how Tess could get on a reader's nerves, but she really didn't bother me. Her killing of Alec also freed her from her fears so that she ultimately died happily and peacefully..."

I agree, I thinnk it was the fact that there was no longer an obstacle to her love for Angel and knowing that he loved her gave her happiness and long awaited peace. She finally could rest.
Mar 20, 2012 09:12AM

289 To my great surprise I couldn't put away the book before actually finishing it. I remember my struggling through Far from tha madding crowd and I sort of expected the same situation here but ... nowhere near. In the end I simply couldn't stop reading.

I really enjoyed this book. As much as I was expecting turbulent course of actions, I must admit that I was convinced that she was not strong (if) enough to kill Alec. I was sort of expecting that it would turn out that he committed a suicide - how naive heheheehe. Though I must admit that the scene when the landlady discovers the body was most brilliant, however tragical.

When it comes to the characters, I, too, have mixed feelings about them. I didn't like Alec from the very beginning and I find it very hard to believe in decency of his feelings and actions. I cannot deny that in the end he helped Tess and her family way more than Angel, yet whether it was genuine or only a way of satisfying his needs or ego, it's hard to tell. Then, on the other hand, I was bitterly disappointed with Angel. I hoped that he would take her with him, far away and try to start a new life in a completely remote place where nobody would knew them. Nevertheless, when he came back and went to look for Tess I felt sorry for him and I kind of wanted them to be together eventually, however unimaginable it would be. But considering the circumstances I thought that he might actually remain consistent - though he experienced this change and realised that he still loved Tess - but Hardy was more cruel... to us, readers, and he let them live through those happy moments in the abandonded house, only intensifying the tension.

Tess, poor Tess. However contradictory and unreal she may seem I sympathised with her and cheered her in her actions. I believe that the rape, loss of her child, and then the struggle of revealing her secret to a man whom she loved above all, was such a traumatic experience that considering the events that would follow, she must have had some mental problems, and I mean it in non pejorative way. I am deeply convinced that she was so disturbed by her situation that she tried to compensate for it in the best possible way she could. It was an awkward and at moments ludicruos way but in the end she was a simple person, very young, with little education and even less help from her family or friends. She was on her own, tackling with situations beyond her capacity. I find it hard to believe that a reasonable person who be convinced that killing a man would help to win the heart of other. Yet she does it, and she doesn't express any remorse in killing a person. And the "last journey" of Tess and Angel was so surreal, dream-like, so beautifully epic that I almost wished it had a happy ending.

And then the biggest disappointment - Stonehenge. However metaphorical it could be, I found it somewhat disturbing. I know that the book was written in 1800s when it still might have been a curiosity.

When it comes to Tess "marrying" her sister to Angel, I didn't like this idea at all. Why would she do that? And how could this "changed" Angel agree on that? But it is clear that they would actually get married or holding hands was just a sign of sharing this tragedy, of being together in this hard moment?
Mar 17, 2012 05:58AM

289 Marialyce wrote: I thought pretty much the same of Angel's name. Will he live up to his name's meaning, I wonder? I guess we will see, but my feeling is not good about it.
I agree that Angel seems too ideal. There is something disquieting about him and because this is only the beginning, I am expecting rather turbulent development.
Mar 17, 2012 01:32AM

289 Marialyce wrote: "I am interested in the name Angel. It does seem a bit strange a name for a man of Victorian times, doesn't it?
I too was struck by the originality of his name. I was wondering if it was supposed to imply some sort of guarding angel for Tess, someone who will help her go through the atrocities from her past.
And then, I find him - Angel - somewhat disturbing. It seems so unreal at time, so out of his times. I was wondering how common (or at least plausible) it was that someone would get the knowlegde about farming in such a way as his in those times?
Basically, the whole countryside life is so idyllic, so peaceful and perfect, that I can't get rid of the feeling of an awaiting calamity.
289 I second Mary Barton by Elizabeth Gaskell.
Mar 09, 2011 12:50PM

289 Mon wrote: I don't think Mrs T is that interested or troubled, to actually want to mould Isabel."
Well, after consideration I have to admit that I might have made this judgement too quickly. Mrs. T. does indeed seem as she couldn't have care less for other people, let alone some American girl without 'proper' manners. Yet, I am totally confused about her motives to take Isabel with her. Maybe it's something typical for those times, I must admit that I am a beginner in the Victorian times. I guess I need to carry on with reading.
Mar 06, 2011 09:29AM

289 Silver wrote: "I think part of the reason for Mrs. Touchett acting the way she did about Isabel wanting to set up in the drawing room was because of her own jealousy about Isabel. .... 'I think also she may like to view Isabel as being like herself. As she sees herself as being this independent woman, so while the idea if independence in general is fine, she does not want Isabel being independent from her.

I get exactly the same impression. Inferring from Mrs. Touchett behaviour, one would expect her to be more open-minded and willing to accept a broad independence, yet she often acts on the contrary, which is very confusing. I'm trying to figure out where it's only jealousy or is there something else behind this. I was wondering if she is maybe trying to compensate for the fact of having a son, which may not be 'convenient' to her. Taking Isabel under her custody, she's trying to mold her into her image of a perfect woman - in her understanding - which she undoubtedly would do with her own daughter.
Mar 03, 2011 11:04AM

289 I have read three chapters so far but I'm already enjoying it. At first, the long sentences were quite difficult to follow. I'm not used to read such long sentences in English text LOL, yet after some time I got used to it and appreciate long descriptions, even though I often need to reread them a few times.

When it comes to characters, I must say I adore those formal conversations between high class people. And the part about marrying or at least falling in love with an interesting woman was fantastic.

I'm also very curious how the character of Isabel will be developed throughout the story.
Mar 02, 2011 05:07AM

289 Oh, I'd like to join in, though I'm not sure I'll have enough time. But I will try to pop in every once in a while at least to read your comments :D

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