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Apr 26, 2012 11:17AM

2480 OK that note, go on YouTube and search "parliamo Glasgow" and "Chewin' the fat".
Apr 26, 2012 11:11AM

2480 Nato wrote: "Hello, I'm new to this group. I'm an American of Scottish descent. Is there a standard Scottish accent?

In the US, I grew up in Michigan and the midwestern accent (mine) was then standard. Th..."

Bunch of Sinclairs up Orkney way...do good whisky up there so they do...the Highland Park 18 year old may be the tears of angels.
As to a standard accent...huge regional variation. Also issues of dialect.
Sep 30, 2011 08:31AM

2480 Starfish13 wrote: "Hello everyone,

I'nm glad to see some activity as this seemed to be quite a quiet group for a while. [Book:Morven Callar] and [Book:Sunset Song] are favourites of mine, and Sunset Song is one tha..."

Aye, we got it in Strathclyde too...
Visited Stonehaven in the olden days by accident, seem to remember the Ship Inn in Stoney doing a fine pint.
Mar 17, 2011 07:34AM

2480 Duntay wrote: "...have you ever read The Silver Darlings ? I saw it as a play not too long ago - it seemed a bit like Sunset Song, with herring..."

Like that description. Not read it though.
Haven't seen the Neil Oliver thing, don't get BBC Scotland in Connaught...and the BBC i-Player has a regional lock too. Did like his "2 Men In A Trench" though, one episode had them playing golf in full plate to prove how mobile a knight could be.
2480 Eileen wrote: "A novel which is sympathetic to the Covenanters is *Hunted and Harried* by R. M. Ballantyne. Also, Robert Louis Stevenson's *Kidnapped* is set in the eighteenth century and is based on actual inci..."

Aye, Kidnapped and also The Master of Ballantrae: A Winter's Tale touch on the '45 and the aftermath. Like much of Stevenson's work they play upon the duality of things.
Another wee insight into the god bothering that caused a bunch of issues in Scots Hx is The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner.
Feb 22, 2011 10:46PM

2480 Folks, just to highlight that Scottish fiction (and Hx) isn't all castles and epic battles against the sassenach, here's 3 very different books to try:
A Scots Quair: Sunset Song / Cloud Howe / Grey Granite
The Wasp Factory
Feb 09, 2011 10:37PM

2480 Columba, don't think it's still in print.
Feb 09, 2011 07:20AM

2480 Oh, also worth a wee look is: http://www.scots-online.org/
Feb 09, 2011 07:18AM

2480 Don't feel bad about needing to use this. I moved from Strathclyde to Grampian ages ago and discovered the dialect spoken up there bewildering. Not only the doric itself but the accent.
A fair few regional dialects in the country, though they are being watered down by the MTV effect.
But I have yet to find anyone that talks like Scotty from Star Trek or groundsman Willie...apart from when in the pub quoting said characters.
Feb 09, 2011 07:14AM

2480 Anne wrote: "Our library has none of his books,so I have to get them on interlibrary loan. What else would you recommend, Old B?"

I read a bunch of his stuff ages ago. The Bruce Trilogy: Steps to the Empty Throne, Path of the Hero King & Price of the King's Peace and The Wallace are ones that stand out, mainly for the pivotal period in Scots Hx they cover. Not the best documented period, it was a wee while ago, so a bit of poetic license at times. On the whole good though.
He tends to focus each book on a big name in Scots Hx, so he covers Columba, Rob Roy, MacBeth, Somerled...all the usual suspects.
Magnus's book is very good, as is the slightly shorter The Lion in the North. Prebble also did a very good one on Culloden and a couple of others worth a look if you want to put the Hx fiction into context.
Jan 12, 2011 10:43PM

2480 Aye, but there's Scottish fiction and Scottish fiction...it's a broad church.
Also worth a look:
Nigel Tranter, Hx fiction
Robert Louis Stevenson, Hx fiction and weird tales...and pirates
Irvine Welsh, gritty modern urban humour
Lewis Grassic Gibbon, social commentary, Hx fiction and sci-fi
Christopher Brookmyre, "tartan noir"
Robert Burns, the bard...poetry covering social injustice, burning love, republican politics, saucey/smutty goings on, and the immortal Tam O'Shanter.
Dec 20, 2010 02:29AM

2480 Aye, some have fairly slight connections...
Dec 06, 2010 03:12AM

2480 Great site. Posted the link on the folktales group too.
Dec 04, 2009 07:00AM

2480 Obisbooks wrote: "Since this is about reading from the Top 100 Scottish books, I'm going to get started with James Hogg - Confession of a Justified Sinner. I have in my possession and am in the mood for an "old-fash..."

It's a smasher. Creepy, and with a sprinking of angry holy ranters...the religous bigotry as relevant now as ever. Satanic machinations or descent into mental illness?
Dec 04, 2009 04:20AM

2480 I know I may be opening a can of worms here, but...if the list is about Scottish "books" does the nationality of the author matter? And what makes a book Scottish? Subject? Where written? Or is it nationality of author after all?
Dec 04, 2009 01:47AM

2480 Emma wrote: "JK Rowling is British. As are all Scottish, English and Welsh people. It's a small point but one that often confuses foreigners..."

And we're all Europeans.
But I think most folk will define themselves (if they have to) as Scots/English/Welsh before British...and some will refuse the term altogether.
I know a Yorkshireman that considers himself that first...then English, then British at a push.
I suppose legally it's down to the passport you hold.
Dec 02, 2009 01:52AM

2480 Anne wrote: "I finally got the list to come up and was fascinated to find out how many of the books I was familiar with and did not know the authors were Scottish-like J.K. Rowling, who I always thought was Bri..."

I think the list is fairly loose with what it considers a Scottish author...JKR wrote the 1st book in Edinburgh from what I remember.

Oct 08, 2009 09:19AM

Oct 07, 2009 04:51AM

2480 Try anything by: Nigel Tranter
May 25, 2009 02:22AM

2480 Reading Le Morte D'Arthur The Winchester Manuscript. Not technically a Scottish book, but King Lot is from Lothian and rules Orkney too...and his sons, Gawain and his brothers, are Orkadian. Must read something modern soon though.
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