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Feb 28, 2014 01:30PM

220 Thank you Arenda.
Feb 28, 2014 11:36AM

220 I was doing my review of 'Dead Sky' aka 'Prior Bad Acts' when I noted that despite the fact its US hardback edition is listed as 2006 it is showing up as originally published in 2000.

I think part of the problem is doodsengel - Dutch edition which seems to relate to Book 2 in the series from the words in the synopsis in Dutch but name Andy Fallon appears in English.

Not sure how to approach this - should Doodsengel be
taken away from Prior Bad Acts list and added to 'Dust to Dust' which was published in 2000?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...

Cheers
Jun 04, 2013 11:26AM

220 Will the import overwrite page numbers? Amazon are terrible on page numbers, often putting a standard 400 on books that are much shorter or longer.
Jan 29, 2012 11:49PM

220 Maria wrote: "Does anybody know what the new required field "Change comment" on the book edit field is all about?"

Basically you make a brief note of the changes you've made to the record for the change log.
Jan 29, 2012 06:25PM

220 Sara ♥ wrote: "If you go to your books, you can "sort" by cover, and it'll put all the blank cover books at the top. That's helpful. You can also use sorting to help you figure out which books are missing other..."

Sara - thanks for that tip on covers. At least I can now see what is missing. Luckily I keep cover images (non Amazon ones) for my blog reviews so can draw on those for 'read' books. As for those in my 'to be read' well not quite so bothered as when I come to read them i can always sort out covers and other info if not already done.
Jan 28, 2012 10:24PM

220 Sandra wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Glad it worked! That combining feature has made a difference to me, too."

So, now it should just be in danger of merging, right? I still can't find anything for this aud..."


Sandra here is details of this cassette recording from Recorded Books: http://www.recordedbooks.com/index.cf...

I think what has happened is that the ISBN shown on the record here is for the non-library edition and Recorded Books seem to have been shedding many direct-to-consumer titles of late passing many over to Simply Audiobooks. I found this out when I was rescuing some of my own audiobooks. This particular title though was not taken over by Simply but the same narrator Richard Ferrone (not Richard Rule that was a weird listing via Amazon) now is on the 2011 Simon & Schuster Audio listing. Got that from his website and Audible.
Jan 28, 2012 12:18AM

220 Patrick wrote: "To clarify, Kindle & CreateSpace books will show on the rescue list eventually. We took them off because we thought we'd have info for them. It may not be until tomorrow morning."

Patrick, I have to comment that this seems quite a self-destructive shoot-themselves-in-the-foot move on Amazon's part as they own the Kindle format and some authors have only opted for Kindle rather than a broader e-formats.

Their antics over this relationship with GRs has made me a lot less keen on buying from them and I am sure I am not alone in that sentiment.
Jan 27, 2012 06:11AM

220 Themis-Athena wrote: "Yes -- if you click on the tiny "Goodreads librarian" link underneath your profile photo on your profile page, you're directed to a (series of) page(s) listing everyone of your edits in (reverse) c..."

I am not seeing that 'Goodreads librarian' link on my profile page. is that because I am also an author I wonder?
Jan 26, 2012 10:28AM

220 Jeannette wrote: "Catherine, maybe you should consider posting your concerns in a new topic? It could get lost in this one."

I agree though we are not actually importing data from WorldCat - basically using it to verify facts such as publisher etc. and then manually typing it in ourselves.

I have noticed that publishers sites while wonderful resources in many cases tend not to carry historical data - that is about older editions once they are no longer in print or they've been replaced by the latest new cover edition.
Jan 26, 2012 12:30AM

220 Actually here is a question generated from something mentioned above about Audible.

In the formats listed for audio we don't have digital downloads. Certainly the majority of titles carried by Audible are ones they have licences to carry via original publishers Recorded Books Tantor etc which began their life as CDs but they also do have their own labels such as Audible Frontiers that only exist as digital.
Jan 25, 2012 02:33PM

220 rivka wrote: "Vivienne, they get most (all?) of their book data from Amazon, so I expect they'd be a problem."

I don' think it is quite all but they obviously get a lot from amazon.co.uk and are in bed with them for listings.

Still they will remain my best site for day-to-day listings and price comparison but not for this exercise :)
Jan 25, 2012 02:10PM

220 For the mods:

How do you feel about

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/

I ask because it I use it more than wikipedia for info about books and editions in my day-to-day life and it hasn't been included on your exclusion list.
Jan 24, 2012 04:06AM

220 Question about ULRs.

Sometimes I am finding that one source isn't necessarily giving me all the info I need. Publishers and authors sometimes give publication dates/page numbers & details of various editions and sometimes they don't, so I head off to World Cat.

My tendency is to put the best ULR (most info). Also if I get some info from them and some (page #s mainly) from my own copy to hand, ticking both boxes.

Is this messing up the system?
Jan 24, 2012 04:01AM

220 Maria wrote:
Actually I'm kinda having fun with it :) If the functionalit..."


Me too but then I am not trying to balance work and other committments. I've enjoyed tidying up the information/covers on a number of my books.
Jan 23, 2012 12:51PM

220 Helen

I'd imagine that is to allow you to save the image to your harddrive. I've been accessing pics from other sources andsaving them temp to my docs and then deleting after uploading to Goodreads.
Jan 23, 2012 10:06AM

220 MissJessie wrote: "...unlikely that Amazon would pull out of what must have been a fairly lucrative deal with GR, given both whatever they get paid for the data base and the books bought thru the site or because of the site and the large group of potential buyers they are now pissing off with no reason and/or notice. Just saying I don't believe it for a minute, though I understand spin.
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Well Amazon are the owners of Shelfari and if they have raised the price beyond what Goodreads can afford for use of their database, they may also consider pissed off GR users may flock to their rival site rather than blame their greed for what is after all information in the public domain. I think this is why the GR staff are urging the use of non-e-commerce sites to verify info including our own eyes.
Jan 23, 2012 07:11AM

220 As for the rest, it's impossible to deny that there have been bumps along the way for Goodreads users, or that the database is not as good as it could be, and I have no interest in doing so. But I feel like Amazon is a substantial cause of the problems that this is creating for users.
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I agree. After all the site is very useful for keeping track of our books, providing this at no cost to usas well as a very active set of forums and the like. I am grateful to Goodreads and do feel this change is more down to Amazon making demands over Goodreads not playing ball with them. So yes I may have to gie some time to rescue bit in my case it is about 35 books. Another 500 may be merged with other editons but I don't consider that a major issue. I can correct if I need to.
Jan 22, 2012 09:08AM

220 Library sites, including World Cat can be quite useful for getting page numbers. You do have to ensure it's the right ISBN of course.

I have to say though I often find Amazon's page counts can be wildly wrong compared to actual copy.
Jan 22, 2012 05:34AM

220 Angela wrote: "
Because I searched for the ISBN and Goodreads auto-imported the data from Amazon in order to give me a search result. Then I added my scanned covers (normally) and there was usually no need to update the rest of the info as it was correct...."


I wonder though since you own the books that clicking on the 'I own a copy' might not be the solution. You wouldn't need to find an ULR for each of the titles. Some times all that is 'required' is author and name. Not sure then what happens to the other info but once saved you can then always go back and re-edit the page numbers etc.
Jan 22, 2012 12:58AM

220 Angela wrote: "My first 35 pages (at 50 books per page = 1750 books) are in danger of deletion. Mostly these are obscure titles (French or Australian) that I actually own.

Then I am a little confused as if these are obscure titles that you added yourself I wonder why they are in danger at all if you rather than Amazon are the source. Something to get clarified from Otis perhaps?
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