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Feb 22, 2014 03:32PM

1865 It's really not accurate to say that the movie and book are equivalent. The whole town of Hagsgate is never mentioned or shown in the movie, for instance, and there are other details not included too.

Totally agree to start kids with the movie, though. It's charming but also has a lot of depth of meaning, so it can appeal to many ages.

I grew up with it as one of my favorite movies, but I never read the book until recently, when I discovered what I now consider the "full" story, since several subplots from the book are just entirely missing in the movie. But the movie is self-contained and consistent and iconic at this point. There's no way I can avoid hearing the actors' voices in my head when I read the dialogue in the book.
Jan 09, 2013 04:03AM

1865 I didn't know it was self-published, but it seems like it was either a limited run or Kindle only. Anyway, my library can't get whatever's currently published in the States, so I'll have to wait until it's reprinted in March.
Jan 04, 2013 09:23AM

1865 I'm definitely planning on reading this, but I have to wait for my library to get it in. I asked them to purchase it and they very likely will, given the positive ratings and such, but I don't know how long that will take.
Dec 05, 2012 10:00AM

1865 I wrote more in my review of the book here on goodreads (and for me to write a review indicates my preferences are rather strong), but it basically comes down to the fact that I didn't like the framing story. Yes, the movie adaptation from the book is very good, and the acting is great, and the screenplay was written well to begin with, etc. All other things being equal, I still would have liked the book better, particularly since there is a depth of backstory to the characters (especially Fezzik and Inigo) that can't really get explored within the limits of the movie format. However, the framing story dragged on and on and got so in depth that the supposedly real frame around the story was just as fictional as the story and not nearly as enjoyable. I doubt I will reread the book, certainly not any time soon, but I will probably continue to rewatch the movie periodically.
Nov 08, 2012 05:44AM

1865 Gavin wrote: "Read Mistborn. Kelsier is awesome!"

Yes, I do need to read Mistborn. I have heard quite a lot about Kelsier and Vin.
Nov 07, 2012 09:11PM

1865 Peggy wrote: "...Locke is coming off as a bit of a Gary-Stu - no one is that awesome"

Kvothe (Name of the Wind) is. He's probably worse for that, really. He's an exceptional musician, extremely strong arcanist, learns and memorizes really fast, well-trained in martial arts (by the end of the second book anyway), etc. All by sixteen years old.

I haven't finished the book yet, but Locke doesn't seem nearly so unbelievable. He's well trained in manners and culture and acting and disguise and such in the pursuit of deceit, but realistically so, I think. He's also had more years to practice.

And yes, I'm still comparing to NotW even though I already said I think they're not really comparable, but that was for general prose style. Comparing the characters could get quite interesting.
Nov 05, 2012 03:41PM

1865 I don't get the comparisons to the Name of the Wind. NotW is absolutely one of the best books I've read all year, and its sequel too (can't wait for Doors of Stone!). This one is definitely intriguing and amusing, and I'm interested in continuing to read it, but it's not, at least so far, anywhere near NotW.

Yes, there are some superficial similarities with the main characters both doing audacious things and getting away with far more than they should be able to.

The prose style is completely different to me though. NotW is from the very first page lyrical, symbolic, multi-layered, mysterious. (Just look at the "silence of three parts" passages.) There are still, after two books, uncertainties about fundamental things like the shape of the world itself.

Locke Lamora is not really any of those things (yet?). There are some minor mysteries, like about the alien glass stuff, and while it's quite competent prose, with the alternating structure of the past and the present (technically multilayered, perhaps), it's not striking and poetic the way NotW is. I'm not really far enough in to know whether there are any huge fundamental mysteries like in NotW, but I haven't seen hints of any yet.

So I agree with Casey, looking forward to an amusing romp, but it's not amazing yet. Oh, and I totally get a European flavor to the culture, possibly Italian or Spanish in particular due to the names.
Jan 31, 2012 02:59PM

1865 Lara Amber wrote: "Well at least they got something right. :) Now if we could just fix the pizza! "

What's wrong with the pizza!?
1865 Seconding Mainspring. It sounds like it could be very interesting but also rather flawed, which should make it a good candidate for engaging discussion.
Dec 02, 2011 03:53PM

1865 My car's cd player is going to be full of Wheel of Time for the next month or two as I finally get to Towers of Midnight. Otherwise I would totally look into listening to this in audio by Wil Wheaton of all people. Maybe after Wheel of Time is done I'll find it for a reread.
Dec 02, 2011 03:48PM

1865 Planning on reading it in the next few days. I was born mid-80's and am still not all that culturally aware in some areas (music, particularly), so I'm sure I'll miss some of the references, but the geek factor will still be through the roof. :D
1865 I'd be very interested to see a discussion of Ranma 1/2 (I've seen a good bit of the anime).

On a side note, where is a rules list? It's not obvious that second books can't be chosen without an explicit category, only that there's a category where all the books chosen must be a continuation of a series. I did a search in the discussion posts for rules and for second books and found nothing aside from short lists for individual polls, where none that I saw mentioned second books.

I know you reserve the right to change the rules, but it'd be nice to know what the current set is up front... I bet there's something a few months back that's in a thread so buried that nobody will find it unless they know exactly where to look.
1865 All right, book two then. The Well of Ascension. I've been meaning to read the Mistborn series anyway, so I'd catch up to read the second book together.
1865 Yes! Mistborn! The description even says, "a saga of surprises and magical martial-arts action..." If Mistborn can be included, I have no other suggestion (not that I had anything else in mind once I saw that). Mistborn: The Final Empire
Oct 31, 2011 08:14AM

1865 Finally got my hands on this one. Probably less than a quarter of the way in, but enjoying it so far. Love the "cinematic vision" phrases, particularly the glowing color-moods.

I don't mind the narrator, at least so far, but I'm glad it's going to say something at the beginning of each section, or I'd forget about it entirely. I kind of like that though, when there's a bit of a separate thing at the beginning that ends up tying in to the main story at the end.
Oct 08, 2011 07:21AM

1865 EJ Luv Zombie wrote: "I'll vote for either Divergent or Hunger Games."

I think you have to pick one.

I will use my vote for Hunger Games.
Oct 07, 2011 06:13PM

1865 I nominate A Plague of Angels by Sheri Tepper.

This is a genre-buster because at first glance it looks like fantasy, but it's actually post-apocalyptic. Talking animals are actually the result of genetic experiments, and so on. Many of the characters don't really realize or understand technological things though because much of history has been forgotten or even deliberately suppressed, so society has reverted to a more medieval culture. The old technology still exists though, and there are those who still wish to make use of it, sparking the fulfillment of a prophecy which will bring three unlikely heroes together.

I've already read the sequel (The Waters Rising) which was very good and just as thoughtfully done as many of Sheri Tepper's other works. Like others (Family Tree in particular), this set of books has a focus on genetic manipulation as a means of making animals more like humans or vice versa.
Oct 07, 2011 05:57PM

1865 I'm not reading it. Haven't started the series at all except for reading a teaser of GoT from Amazon on my Kindle. It began pretty slow and only got to the point of starting to set up a conflict between the major families. I really couldn't see it going anywhere all that interesting at that point though. The direwolf cubs were the best part. I'm probably wrong and it gets awesome later, but the beginning has not really drawn me in.

So it gets put in my "to-read-later" pile for now as I plow through more Wheel of Time (I'm on Gathering Storm) and the latest Sword of Truth book. Plus I started but haven't finished The Way of Kings yet either. Yes, reading two gigantic unfinished series at a time is fine, but three is too many. ^.- (I'm not calling Sword of Truth unfinished at this point because Omen Machine seems to be a standalone addition.)
Jul 16, 2011 06:33AM

1865 For both the Wheel of Time series and the Sword of Truth series, I somehow managed to read the second book first. I later went back and read the first one and even reread both in order, but it was a pretty interesting way to start.

Another author I will recommend just about anything by is Guy Gavriel Kay. Not epic fantasy; in fact, a lot of his work is more realistic or historical fiction in flavor, although most are not set in our world at all, but sometimes just a little magic used in the right way is enough. And his original high fantasy trilogy starting with The Summer Tree, which the group just read, is fantastic. Although it's a bit slow to start, it builds as it goes.
Jul 15, 2011 02:40PM

1865 Seconding Brandon Sanderson. His standalone Elantris is also quite good. I haven't read Mistborn yet but I'm planning on it, and I'm halfway through The Way of Kings and really enjoying it. His imagination seems boundless and he's incredibly prolific. He says on his blog he wrote something like fifteen novels before any were published.

There's also the Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind. A lot of people really hate it, but I think the first four books and last trilogy (there are 11 books in that sequence plus another separate one coming out this month) are very interesting and mirror each other well. The middle books are much weaker: definitely skip Naked Empire, but if you read the series, don't miss Faith of the Fallen, which has a message that some might say is overdone, but is really inspiring. And don't bother with Law of Nines, which has some loose ties to SoT but is definitely skippable and highly disappointing compared to the rest of his work.
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