Nathan's comments
(member since Nov 15, 2008)
Nathan's comments from the Debate Religion group.
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i blieve he is since we have all the greatest creation
What is so great about the universe? What is great aboout AIDS, SIDS, starvation, diabetes, infection, appendicitis, etc.? There is no greatness there. The world doesn't indicate a divine creator, it indicates the process of evolution.
when i have aproblem and i think i cant get away from it i pray to god being sooo sure he will help and he does thats asign to me.
Hoping god is there and will help, doesn't make it true that he actually is there and is helping. I can hope the Easter Bunny is real, but that doesn't make him real. God isn't helping you through your problems, your family members are and you are helping yourself.
Science, Eli, says NOTHING about “analyzing the supernatural claims.”If science has nothing to say about supernatural claims, then neither does anything else.
You say, "I believe in supernatural events. I have no evidence of them, and no reason to believe in their existence at all outside of the fact that I believe...I believe....I BELIEVE!!!!"
Big fucking deal. What an utter waste of breath. You believe in something because you want to believe in it. Yet, you admit there is no evidence of it or even a reason to believe. Bravo there chap, bravo. You have just mastered the art of making your words insignificant.
On the contrary I would hope I have conclusively shown that I regard you as someone who has simply not received the grace I have.Ha ha. This is condescending nonsense. You pretend that you don't think Eli is "mistaken," but merely think he hasn't received your "magical knowledge" from Jesus. That's the same thing as saying he is mistaken.
You haven't received grace, you have merely received some fantastical nonsense about mythical beings from parishioners of your local church.
Well these are well intended folks huddled joyously about a piece of toast where they claim to see the Baby Jesus or the Virgin Mary. None of them are telling you you're on your way to hell. Actually, they tell me I am on my way there every single time I see them.
Is that any reason to turn to some delighted fellow human and say “You know, you’re effing nutz.”
I certainly say that to people when they are on street corners telling me I am going to Hell for drinking beer.
I'm out.I'm not sad.
The problem is not that it's a metaphor, but that it's facile.No, no, no...the word you were looking for was flaccid, not facile. And, just for the record, I'm not interested in your lack of abilities in the bedroom. If your "metaphor" (*wink, wink*) is flaccid, it is none of my business.
It's a nice trick dressing up name-calling with a conditional clause. It makes it look like you are not having an emotional reaction.It's a nice trick when someone calls you what you are, to pretend the person is acting on emotion instead of observation.
So... In an effort to prove you're not being pedantic, you explain it to me in precise detail again?If you think recognizing metaphor is being pedantic, you are a fucking idiot. I hope that isn't too pedantic for you.
You obviously see no value in the poetic while I do, so I guess we really don't have anything to talk about. I value metaphor. You don't. That's fine. However, getting on my case for valuing it is a bit nonsensical.
The problem is this kind of observation convinces no one, so to me it is pointless as an argument.Irrelevant again. I wasn't trying to convince anyone who wouldn't already find it funny. I was pointing out something humorous to those who would find it humorous.
I'd rather not have to point out again that it is a metaphor, but...
Pastor Gwendolyn is Paster Gwendolyn. She is her own misspelling. Religious leaders claim to know things they cannot possibly know and, as a result, are frauds. Pastor Gwendolyn is a fraud and her misspelled title fits her well. The typo represents all that is wrong with Christianity. Christianity makes huge claims about ultimate knowledge when it doesn't know anything at all. Pastor Gwendolyn makes huge claims about how she can pray for you and make your life better. She is a fraud, just as her title is a fraud. There is no religious title "Paster." It is a made up word, as is her occupation. Pastor Gwendolyn is Paster Gwendolyn.
I just don't think it's worth mentioning in the face of all the more relevant argumentsOther arguments existing and being better or worse is irrelevant. I have, in my past, mentioned countless other arguments. There is no limit on the topics we can discuss and it is not as if me mentioning this argument somehow excluded another, more relevant one. This just happens to be one I found quite comical.
Of course they don't...
It's metaphoric.
I was flipping through the television stations this morning when I cam upon a religious channel. They were preaching away about saving my soul when I noticed something. Along the bottom of the screen, it urged me to call for advice, prayers, and spiritual support. Who did it want me to call? Why none other than the host of the show "Paster Gwendolyn." That's right, P-A-S-T-E-R. Not pastor, which is the actual spelling, but paster, which isn't even a freaking word. This is just such a great example of how these "religious leaders" are simply a bunch of undereducated, overzealous idiots who claim to know things they can't possibly know while they don't even know things a second grader knows. Hilarious.
I just think that any one who believes there is sufficient physical evidence for god or against a god hasn't looked at the gaping holes in all arguments.I don't believe in invisible magical fairies living in my garden. Do you? I have no evidence that they exist, so my default position is that they don't. It is the same with god. It isn't an argument, it is a default position.
It takes faith to be atheist as much as it takes to believe in any god.
It takes no faith to disbelieve in invisible magical fairies. It takes no faith to disbelieve in god.
p.s. most people who believe in a god would also state that the evidence for a god is overwhelming
And yet their evidence is not only not overwhelming, but is nonexistent.
You point at them and say their ignorant and they point back and say the same.
The difference is that we can support why their beliefs are not convincing and are illogical and irrational.
ok, to clarify, athiests think that God doesn't exist for sure, just like people who think that God does exist for sure right?No. Most atheists would say they don't believe in god but, of course, cannot be 100% sure. They believe the likelihood of one existing is so close to zero that it makes no sense to assume one exists.
My conclusion is stop wasting time trying to prove or disprove something you can't.Then why the hell are you here arguing about it?
Of course it is a joke, Nathan. *sob* Don't you know me at all?Sorry. I get so confused on here. I jump from one group to another and can't remember who is who. I think it is the picture for your profile. Just looks gray and there are sooooo many people with profile pics that are a little gray box. ;-)
I am hoping you are kidding with your crocoduck crap. Every living creature (and deceased creature) is an example of a transitional form. So if you are going to try to claim that there are no transitional forms because there are no crocoducks, you have no actual knowledge about biology. But, since the Bible says that God doesn't make mistakes and there are no mistakes like a crocoduck in existence, this proves God is real. It's so simple.
I really hope this is a joke too.
Charity is kidding, right? BTW, that's a crocoduck to the left.
