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message 1: by Laura (new)

Laura well, you should try the second book which is even better than the first one. I won't spoil you about the third one....


message 2: by Manny (new)

Manny I've read all three, in Swedish! Though personally I liked the first one best...


message 3: by Laura (new)

Laura I enjoyed quite a lot the second volume, my favorite, Lets hope the fourth will come soon after the legal battle of his window for her rights.....


message 4: by [deleted user] (new)

I liked the feel of the film. Okay they taken enormous liberties with the book but I can't see how they could have done it in another way.
Being a swede I read the book and couldn't understand how they could translate. The characters are so fantastically Swedish. I think the film really mirrors that.


message 5: by Moira (new)

Moira Russell There is already a MOVIE? Whoah!


message 6: by Moira (new)

Moira Russell Manny wrote: "I've read all three, in Swedish! Though personally I liked the first one best..."

OMG I wish I could read these in Swedish. Do you know if the English translation is any good? It seems a bit flat and sometimes clunky. I wish I wasn't such a monoglot.




message 7: by Manny (new)

Manny There are in fact movies of all three books! We've now seen the first two (the third one is out on DVD in a couple of months). I was relieved to find that Erika was back in the second instalment. I'm guessing that the delay in releasing them outside Scandinavia may be due to the complications around Larsson's estate.

I haven't read a translation, but people who have seem less than impressed, so maybe it wasn't that well done. His style in Swedish is pleasant and unpretentious, and he has a good ear for dialogue. I would definitely not call him either flat or clunky.



message 8: by Moira (new)

Moira Russell Manny wrote: "There are in fact movies of all three books!"

WOW, I wish I could see them!....argh, they'll probably get remade in the States with Kristin Stewart or something. sigh.

His style in Swedish is pleasant and unpretentious, and he has a good ear for dialogue. I would definitely not call him either flat or clunky.

Yeah, it's not so great so far: 'When thereafter they met by chance in a bar in Soder they had all but come to blows.' Urgh. However, many, many people have told me I will love the punk heroine, so I'm sticking with it.






message 9: by Manny (new)

Manny According to IMDB, the first movie is being officially released in the UK in March. Not sure about the US. I don't see any UK/US release date yet for the second and third ones.

they'll probably get remade in the States with Kristin Stewart or something.

No, no, please not Kristin Stewart!!

I looked around, and saw speculation about George Clooney as Blomkvist in the remake. Not totally thrilled - I think he's too good-looking. I can't think of anyone who would be a good Salander. Noomi Rapace, who plays her in the Swedish version, is very good. It has already made into a major star in Scandinavia.



message 10: by Moira (new)

Moira Russell Manny wrote: "Not sure about the US. I don't see any UK/US release date yet for the second and third ones.

I bet we'll get remakes. Maybe I can catch the originals on PBS or DVD. //resigned

I looked around, and saw speculation about George Clooney as Blomkvist in the remake

WIKIPEDIA SAID BRAD PITT NOOOOOOOOOOO

I can't think of anyone who would be a good Salander. Noomi Rapace, who plays her in the Swedish version, is very good. It has already made into a major star in Scandinavia."

//googles Ooh my!






message 11: by Lucy (new)

Lucy if Angelina Jolie were a few years younger, no doubt they would cast her as Salander. As it is, Kristen Stewart would be a possibility, which is terrifying. I have seen the first film and thought it was fantastic...I would be so disappointed if they remade it. Especially with Clooney as Blomqvist. Ugh. I wasn't sure about Michael Nyqvist at first, but I was convinced by the end.


message 12: by Moira (new)

Moira Russell Lucy wrote: "I have seen the first film and thought it was fantastic...I would be so disappointed if they remade it. Especially with Clooney as Blomqvist. Ugh. I wasn't sure about Michael Nyqvist at first, but I was convinced by the end"

After seeing the trailers for the three (!) flicks on YouTube I am now really hooked and even more sorry I speak only English. Also, Michael Nyqvist is cute!




message 13: by Madeline (new)

Madeline I just saw a trailer for the US release of this movie and am so excited. Mostly because the trailer was mostly made up of quick shots from the movie, and I was able to tell immediately which particular scenes of horror they came from.

"Hey look, it's a shot of a blond girl with blood on her mouth running away from a house in the woods. Wonder when that takes place OH GOD I REMEMBER THAT PART OH GOD OH GOD."


message 14: by notgettingenough (last edited Sep 14, 2010 05:14PM) (new)

notgettingenough Manny: I just read the following passage in Precious Williams's review of this book, but I have seen at least half a dozen similar ones:

The constant references to sandwiches (you get the impression the Swedes eat at least an entire loaf of bread every day), coffee (how on earth do they manage to sleep?) and breasts became tedious very rapidly.

I can stay silent no longer. Precious and other, I lived in Sweden for most of the 80s, and I can tell that you Stieg Larsson wasn't making it up:

1. Sandwiches. Yes, you're right: Swedes love sandwiches. There's a widespread belief that eating bread is good for you.

2. Coffee. Swedes used to drink more coffee per capita than any other county in the world.

3. Breasts.


I think on breasts you were saying you like them.

But Manny. The mere fact that it is true, doesn't mean it isn't tedious. (I'm not saying it is or isn't tedious, merely pointing out the obvious.) I could write a book full of things that English people do every day that would be as boring as batshit even if culturally accurate.


message 15: by Manny (new)

Manny I think on breasts you were saying you like them.

I can already see the Onion headline:

AREA MAN LIKES BREASTS

But Manny. The mere fact that it is true, doesn't mean it isn't tedious. (I'm not saying it is or isn't tedious, merely pointing out the obvious.) I could write a book full of things that English people do every day that would be as boring as batshit even if culturally accurate.

Um... I must say that, until everyone started talking about it, it hadn't occurred to me that I should react to the coffee and sandwiches. Contemporary Swedish novels often tell you what the characters eat - I just read a rather good description of how Annika makes dinner for her family in Nobels Testamente. Mikael and Lisabeth aren't really into cooking, and they tend to live on coffee, sandwiches and pizza. It seems entirely plausible, and I've seen worse devices for anchoring the story in reality.


message 16: by notgettingenough (last edited Sep 15, 2010 02:50AM) (new)

notgettingenough Manny wrote: "I think on breasts you were saying you like them.

I can already see the Onion headline:

AREA MAN LIKES BREASTS

But Manny. The mere fact that it is true, doesn't mean it isn't tedious. (I'm not s..."


It's not that I personally mind, though I found it dull too in this particular book.

The guy, as you observe, is not exactly a great writer, so the issue really is that this guy makes this subject boring.

Australian men like drinking beer and picking fluff from their navels. I just wouldn't even try anchroring a story to that....

Good morning!


message 17: by Manny (new)

Manny The guy, as you observe, is not exactly a great writer, so the issue really is that this guy makes this subject boring.

Well, he's better in Swedish. He's not a terrific stylist, but the language is quite pleasant. I get the impression it hasn't been well translated.

Australian men like drinking beer and picking fluff from their navels. I just wouldn't even try anchoring a story to that...

Oh, I truly think you're underestimating your abilities here! You should give it a shot and see how it works out.

Hm, let's see... the obvious title is Navel Gazing. Bruce's girlfriend is trying to get him into meditation. He dutifully does the om mani padme hum routine but he can never see the jewel in the lotus, he just wants to pick out the fluff from his damn navel and then go for a beer. And that was just the first thought that occurred to me.


message 18: by notgettingenough (last edited Sep 15, 2010 12:55AM) (new)

notgettingenough Oh dear. My breasts have insisted on having their say. So: 'we are not tedious or boring. Any suggestion they are by goodreads reviewers or NGE's brain are completely ridiculous.' Break off here to say, sorry, but they are getting a bit overexcited and bouncing up and down, so if this is getting wobbly-hard-to-read that is why. They continue:

'Descriptions of coffee and sandwiches may get boring. Descriptions of breasts never do.'

Signed 'BREASTS'.

Well, I don't know about that. Being a heterosexual female, I'm just not that into them. Sorry, breasts, but.


notgettingenough Manny wrote: "Australian men like drinking beer and picking fluff from their navels. I just wouldn't even try anchoring a story to that...

Oh, I truly think you're underestimating your abilities here! You should give it a shot and see how it works out.

Hm, let's see... the obvious title is Navel Gazing. Bruce's girlfriend is trying to get him into meditation. He dutifully does the om mani padme hum routine but he can never see the jewel in the lotus, he just wants to pick out the fluff from his damn navel and then go for a beer. And that was just the first thought that occurred to me."


First thoughts are the best. Hmm. I think you are on to something.


message 20: by Manny (new)

Manny I look forward to reading your story when you've finished! But if you manage to sell it, I want 5% of the proceeds. Or at least a pint of ice-cold Fosters.


message 21: by Janice (new)

Janice I thought this was one of the best books I've ever had the pleasure of reading. Was hooked from the onset and couldn't put it down. I totally agree with your review.


message 22: by Jordan (new)

Jordan Ok not to step on anyone's toes. I however hated this book. I found Mikael so completely distasteful that I threw the book right into the Ocean! Horribly annoying character.

Sorry Manny! I think this is the only book we have disagreed about. We have a pretty good track record though. I think we are allowed this one! ; P


message 23: by Carlo (new)

Carlo Finished it recently and loved it, but I don't agree that it is a good thriller. So far Angels and Demons was the best thriller I've read, but I have to say I'm not a big fan of the genre.

I loved this because I saw more than a thriller in it. Also, the character development was good for both Salander and Blomkvist, and let's not forget the setting.

The funny thing is that while reading the book, my consumption of coffee tripled from an already high "dose".


message 24: by Archna (new)

Archna Yadav I just read it now. and you have read it 6 years ago!!!!


message 25: by Manny (last edited Jun 10, 2015 01:37PM) (new)

Manny I read it in Swedish before it was famous... at least outside Sweden.


message 26: by Loveliest (new)

Loveliest Evaris This book is Swedish. Obviously the culture would be Swedish, and it would be very different from America. I never even thought "Wow, they eat a lot of sandwiches" because Americans eat a lot of sandwiches themselves. It's a decent meal!


message 27: by Manny (new)

Manny It is indeed a very Swedish book, and I guess that's one of the reasons I liked it... it reminded me pleasantly of the time I spent there!


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