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message 1: by Kristen (new)

Kristen I was really bothered by the treatment of women in this story as well...


message 2: by Dylan (new)

Dylan I just finished this book, and I read Kunstler's blog regularly. I have reservations about some of his views, as you do, but I find that he has a tolerably coherent grasp of reality, which is rare these days. I was wondering, how does this make you "reevaluate The Long Emergency"?


message 3: by Chloe (new)

Chloe I haven't read The Long Emergency yet, I just picked this up because I found the back flap interesting. What I hate about Kunstler's treatment of women in this book is that he in no way explains why gender roles would revert. If the town doctor had been a woman, would the organization of Union Grove be completely different?


message 4: by Dylan (new)

Dylan My best guess is that he was just speculating about the future of one particular region--Upstate New York--because he is most familiar with it, and not making any larger predictions about gender roles. I don't recall there being any indication that patriarchy was also the norm outside that area.


message 5: by Erin (new)

Erin Though I began this book with high hopes, by the end of I had the feeling the author has never even attempted to understand women. Every female character was impressively one dimensional and weak-willed.


message 6: by Dylan (new)

Dylan Kunstler's response: "I received a heap of criticism from female readers - including peak oil activists - full of consternation that I did not present female characters in the kinds of dominant valorized roles that are favored today: the post-oil equivalent of CEO, news anchor, CIA-Ninja warrior, Presidential candidate. What struck me was their complete failure of imagination. They could not conceive of male / female relations that were different than today's, even in a world that had been turned economically upside down." http://kunstler.com/blog/2011/06/man-...


message 7: by Tom (new)

Tom Costello Living in the area he described, I have to say that the women I meet are not so liberated from old gender roles as their more urbane sisters. I can see women being as he describes in cults, in churches and on farms. Visit Whitehall or Stillwater or Fort Ann NY to name a few, even Troy or Albany has large majorities of "unliberated" women. Sad but true.


message 8: by Emily (new)

Emily Funny, the quote from Kuntsler's blog, above, just makes me even more annoyed with his gender politics. We female readers aren't annoyed that he didn't make all the women superheroes, we're just annoyed that all his women do is provide sex and dinner. Surely he can acknowledge that there's a middle ground somewhere in there. Sure, Britney knows what to do with a fish (and the narrator is super impressed with this -- yay, Britney!), and sure the doctor's wife is helpful, but mostly the women just provide sex and dinner, and yeah, that is a crappy prediction for the future.


message 9: by Isabella (new)

Isabella Gray Thank you for your review. I think I'll skip this one for now. I don't need to waste my time right now on a sexist novel when the author's own quote pisses me off.


message 10: by Vera (new)

Vera THANK YOU! I am only about a third of the way through the book and the speech patterns are driving me crazy.


message 11: by Timothy (new)

Timothy Jenson Reading it now, you but into words what has been bothering me about the world.


message 12: by Timothy (new)

Timothy Jenson I think the apocalypse if a form of wish fulfillment for Kunstler. So I have real doubts about his non-fiction now.


message 13: by Thom (new)

Thom I wil write in a bit more detail later but I'm thinking people are being a bit simplistic in their criticism of the females in the novel. I see women building things and growing things, women that are resourceful in their everyday struggle with surviving cataclysmic events with a sense of dignity. Aside from the ones in the religious order the women's although not main characters, add a lot of flavor and shading to the sense of community in the story.


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