s.penkevich's review of Cloud Atlas > Comments
Calvino is amazing. It isn't quite as exciting or broad as CA but he does a really good job of switching between voices and style. It is more self-concious and contained but doesn't have quite give the burning desire to keep turning the pages that Mitchell acheives.This is a book I feel I will have to revisit someday as I'm sure each re-reading will extract more from the characters. Especially in the first half where I'm sure there is so much hidden that wouldn't present itself without knowledge of what is discussed later in the novel.
Thank you very much for you kind words!
Great review! Oh man, I am on a major Radiohead kick at the moment, and when I got to the end of your review I smiled at the reference. "In Rainbows" is my favorite album of theirs so I like your choice of "Reckoner" for the credits.
Ha thank you. In Rainbows is amazing, I think it may be my favorite, but with Radiohead it all depends on the day for what album I want to hear. I hear the Wachowski brothers are making it into a film right now, if the credits come up and I don't hear those drums, I may be let down a bit haha.
"let down"... another great song! haha. I know what you mean by depending on the day. Today I have Amnesiac in the car stereo and The King of Limbs on the PC. See also my rating of Mitchell's novels on Steve's review of Thousand Autumns in regards to "depending on the day".
Ooh yeah great track. I have King Of Limbs in my car right now, I've been revisiting that album a lot lately since I recently discovered I am obsessed with "Bloom". Ha I need to read all of Mitchell, I think that will be my goal for 2012. It's nice to find an author I admire as much as Mitchell and have them still be alive and publishing. The last living author like that was Saramago, and then he up and died from old age.
That was very selfish of Saramago! haha. I love Bradbury and he is 91 years old. I hope he sticks around for a long time still!"Bloom" grew on me big time. That's one of my favorite tracks and I didn't really care for it too much at first. That's usually the way with great music.
I need to read more Bradbury. I've been saying that ever since I read F-451 in high school so i should probably get on that. Good to know he is still kicking.I agree, the songs that take a listen or two before clicking always end up being the best. Bloom and Mr Magpie are just so ugly and angsty feel that they scratch a musical itch you never realized you had until hearing them. It's as if each band member played parts irrelevant to what each other were playing in a deliberatly ugly fashion yet it all comes together in such a syncopated euphoria. I think I'm about to put on some Kid A now.
We should start a petition for a Radiohead soundtrack to Cloud Atlas. Or at least Johnny Greenwood score - the one he did for There Will Be Blood was stunning.
Yes Bradbury is amazing; especially his non-space oriented short stories. Not that those aren't good, I just prefer the creepy/nostalgic/earth-based stories. I'm currently reading The Golden Apples of the Sun and I love it!I like your idea to petition the Wachowskis to have them incorporate an all Radiohead soundtrack for Cloud Atlas. That would be jaw-dropping sensory overload!
This is an amazing review. Very well written and loaded with info! I am returning to this when I read CA again.I loved that you mentioned literary pulp because that's how I usually describe it. Or sometimes I say "high-brow hollywood".
The mixture of literary intellectualism and thrilling plot has seeded David as one of my favorite novelists and biggest inspirations.
Now that you point out all the meta-fictive elbow jabs throughout, I have to re-read to find them all. Because they almost seem to be in excess, as you've pointed it out. I don't remember being annoyed by so much self-consciousness, but I wonder if I will with this in mind.
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I was feeling this for the end:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioPDGJ...
Scott: I will have to check out more Bradbury then, I love a good short story collection so that will be one of my first purchases with the extra xmas cash ha.Stephen: Thank you very much! I rather like "high-brow hollywood", that is a very accurate description. I hope the novels self-consciousness doesn't take away from it, I rather enjoyed how often lines would be a double entendre of sorts speaking both of the plot and of the novel itself. Similar to Calvino, I think its amazing how he creates a novel that is as close to a living breathing thing as can be.
And All I Need would also be a nice touch. That song is so creepy, it would make a good overture during the Somni section as well!
I was too impatient with "Cloud Atlas" to understand much of its significance (despite my passion for the first two novels). Hence, it's on my to-re-read list.
This is one of those books where the more I think about it and discuss it, the closer to me it gets. I really loved this novel, so I am bumping it up to a full 5 stars. It will also help me in rating all the other novels of his.
s.penkevich wrote: "This is one of those books where the more I think about it and discuss it, the closer to me it gets. I really loved this novel, so I am bumping it up to a full 5 stars.Your review of Ghostwritten has me thinking the same thing. I'm bumping that one up to 5 stars as well. I was comparing Mitchell to Mitchell instead of letting his works shine among the stars that they are.
Scott wrote: "Your review of Ghostwritten has me thinking the same thing. I'm bumping that one up to 5 stars as well. I was comparing Mitchell to Mitchell instead of letting his works shine among the stars that they are..."Sometimes I feel like 5 stars aren't enough, especially without being able to give half stars. 10 would be more accurate. When I gave it 4.5, I was trying to be more stingy with 5 stars and didn't want to be so quick to rate it so highly. But I think about this book almost as much as I do anything Dostoevsky, and I find myself telling so many people to read it, that I had to bump it up.
Great review. This really is a special book isn't it? I'll have to add the Calvino to my to-read list.
Dulac3 wrote: "Great review. This really is a special book isn't it? I'll have to add the Calvino to my to-read list."Yeah, this book really struck me, especially as I went into it rather hesitant at first. If you enjoyed this, I think you would really enjoy Calvino. Although it is not as exciting as this masterpiece, it is still very deserving of 5 stars.
Richard wrote: "I've read your review, so now I don't need to read the book! Thanks!"Ha, my bad. I tried not to give too much plot away, but I was overly excited about this one when I wrote it.
Also, didn't mean to repost it. I went back and added it to my favorites list and forgot to not repost.
No, no, I'm not complaining! I'm *grateful* to have it off my list. I only wish you'd done more of this with Black Swan Green, which I now have sitting here glowering at me because of you.
s.penkevich wrote: "Ha, my bad. I tried not to give too much plot away, but I was overly excited about this one when I wrote it."You didn't give too much away in this at all. Great review!
Richard wrote: "No, no, I'm not complaining! I'm *grateful* to have it off my list. I only wish you'd done more of this with Black Swan Green, which I now have sitting here glowering at me because of ..."Richard...I have a ton of books staring me down as well. But if you get a chance, this one is worth it. It's beautiful.
Scott wrote: "Richard...I have a ton of books staring me down as well. but if you get a chance, this one is worth it. It's beautiful..."***AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGH***
Richard wrote: "No, no, I'm not complaining! I'm *grateful* to have it off my list. I only wish you'd done more of this with Black Swan Green, which I now have sitting here glowering at me because of ..."I keep meaning to write a bloated, pompous review for that one, because I think it is my favorite of his and serves as a focus piece for all the novels much in the way that he always has one metafictional chapter that divulges some of the theory behind each novels style. However, school and work are keeping me from it. Perhaps tonight.
And thanks Scott!
Richard wrote: "Scott wrote: "Richard...I have a ton of books staring me down as well. but if you get a chance, this one is worth it. It's beautiful..."***AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGH***"
Haha. Okay, nevermind. Darn it Penky! Revealing all that is Cloud Atlas! Haha. Feel better?
And has anyone seen the production stills for this yet? Bill Smoke is played by Hugo Weaving. A reddish blonde Hugo Weaving.http://filmonic.com/first-look-at-hal...
Richard wrote: "Scott wrote: "Richard...I have a ton of books staring me down as well. but if you get a chance, this one is worth it. It's beautiful..."***AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGH***"
Hahaha. YOU MUST READ!
I don't know if I have the fortitude to see this. When I heard they were making a movie I was gobsmacked. I just can't see them doing it justice.
Richard wrote: "I've read your review, so now I don't need to read the book! Thanks!"Richard, I'm afraid you simply have to read this. While the review is awesome you just can't believe the full awesomeness of this book without fully engaging with it. Sorry.
Dulac3 wrote: "Richard wrote: "I've read your review, so now I don't need to read the book! Thanks!"Richard, I'm afraid you simply have to read this. While the review is awesome you just can't believe the ful..."
No. Je refuse. Nix. Nein. Nyet. Nuh-uh. Any book that has a character who could, even in Hollyweird's bent little mind, be played by Hugo Weaving, is simply not going to assault my ocular units.
Dulac3 wrote: "I don't know if I have the fortitude to see this. When I heard they were making a movie I was gobsmacked. I just can't see them doing it justice."Yeah, I just don't see how they could pull it off without enraging me. They say it'll be 3hrs, but even that seems like they will have to rush it. I'll grit my teeth and see it though, just so I can enjoy my righteous anger.
And you should probably read it. This book really blew me away, and I had put off reading it thinking 'f*** modern books'. But Mitchell changed that.
Oh I've read this one...several times. I love it. we need to team up and make Richard see the light!
Dulac3 wrote: "Oh I've read this one...several times. I love it. we need to team up and make Richard see the light!"Ha yeah, sorry I had intended to direct that at Richard. We need to spread the good word of Mitchell! And then have it tarnished by a film.
Richard wrote: "Richard? Who is this "Richard" of whom you speak?"Now, now Richard. Just take your medicine like a good boy. I swear it tastes great!
David Mitchell gave it a positive plug, for what that's worth.http://thefilmstage.com/news/david-mi...
Stephen M wrote: "You guys are all a bunch of naysaying critics. I'm excited to see it!"I am a bit excited to see it as well. I just dread the obligatory movie tie-in edition that is bound to surface.
Yeah, screw tie-in editions.I want to see it, I actually haven't been more excited following a film production since I was 11 and they said there would be more Star Wars, but I just have a sinking feeling I won't like it. Who knows.
I do like that there will be different directors on different stories to keep each one with a unique vibe much how he altered form each story.
And I think it will be interesting to see their interpretation on which person is which reincarnation, and I wonder if Mitchell was consulted. They so far have announced Weaving as being six characters, including Bill Smoke, and that Hugh Grant will be six as well including Borhaave and a canibal in the Sloosha's Crossing story. But then it says that Tom Hanks is Dr. Goose. And I was always under the impression Smoke was Borhaave or possibly Goose, so who knows.
Ha! Yeah, well the big down-side to any involving film is that it necessitates a marketing blitz to try to get a return on the investment.
Ugh, Boerhaave. The most hated man in the Mitchell universe. I'm surprised Hugh Grant is taking up that role.
Perhaps Suhbataar is another Boerhaave reincarnation ha.Yeah, he said he will have so much makeup and prosthetics for his characters he wouldn't be suprised if people didn't even realize he was in the film.
Oh, that's right. Suhbataar. I got the double a's mixed up. Maybe intentional?I think that it's pretty cool that they use the same actors with the different stories since it plays into the reincarnation thing in the novel. I know that movie can never be the book, obviously. I also worry about the quality of the different stories, since different directors worked on it. But I think it has the potential to be the next huge epic movie. That, the new PT Anderson flick and the last Batman has me excited for the theaters this year. Much different from this horrible last year.


You pointed out a few winks that Mitchell seemed to offer through his Cavendish character that I hadn't picked up on. I can see them now in retrospect. With Frobisher I felt there was also that potential for Mitchell to be sending us a message. This was artfully done, I thought. Frobisher, through his first person narration, didn't seem to be in touch with his own feelings as much as Mitchell and his readers were. I'm not sure what that might portend, but found it interesting.
Now that you've mentioned the parallels with Calvino's classic, you've got me curious. I'm officially moving it to a prime spot on my to-read list.