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message 1: by Scott (new)

Scott Marlowe You made it much further than I did. I gave up after book two. Very promising start in book one, but then not much happens. Too many other books to read to spend any more time on this series.


Mike (the Paladin) I had hopes for this one as the title seems to imply action and I thought the story might move along more. Oh well.


message 3: by Jean Paul (new)

Jean Paul Gove' I agree it's very very slow, but it is well-written, and the things that do happen, happen well and 'realistically'.


message 4: by Mary (new)

Mary I'm rooting for the Others.


Mike (the Paladin) I've thrown in the towel.


message 6: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph I don't understand the point of all the misery. You did much better than me. I threw in the towel during book one.


Mary wrote: "I'm rooting for the Others."

I think I am, too. The world would smell a lot better if they got rid of the human stench.


Mike (the Paladin) ...LOL...

I actually mostly liked book one, but that quickly faded.


message 8: by Katherine (new)

Katherine I'm with you! If only the dragons would come along and eat the bunch; I'm about two-thirds through this book and there's only one character I'd miss.


Mike (the Paladin) Jon?


message 10: by Katherine (new)

Katherine Yup. :)


message 11: by Bibliognome (last edited Jun 11, 2012 04:05PM) (new)

Bibliognome I'm glad to see there are critical readers out there! ( By the way, I totally agree about the Wheel of Time series - great start but by the sixth book lost it's way and I never continued with it. I think the editors should have known better). I found George Martin's series quite laboured and began to lose interest as you all have done. Too many characters, too much chaos in the plots, and too many improbable behaviours from the Stark regals. The sub plots too often seem to be written in for no other reason than to create space for the story to continue, gets a bit tedious really - I began to wonder when something cogent was going to happen. I found myself wondering "What's the next over worked peice of incongruent plot that's going to come up" rather than feeling suspense about what's going to happen next. As an example,I'm pretty sure, given his self interest, that Tyrion would have knocked off a few more of his rivals than he has thus far. I guess so many writers these days get mixed up in the idea that quantity is quality.


Mike (the Paladin) I think the publishing houses may have stopped using editors...


message 13: by Becky (new)

Becky Interesting, Book 3 was my favorite.

I should note, however, that I accidentally read Book 3 before reading Book 2, which led to me skimming Book 2. There were some very important plot points in there, but largely I was able to understand 3 without 2, which made me wonder if it really required a whole 1200 page book in between 1 and 3.


message 14: by Kelsey (new)

Kelsey I noticed your intro about The Wheel of Time books... totally agree with you that they fizzle out around book 6. BUT, the Sanderson writing is actually really good and he cuts out a lot of the boring crap. I would highly recommend reading a short synopsis of the intervening books, then jumping back in to the series with Sanderson :) C'mon, you have to be a bit curious about a series you invested six books worth of your time in


Mike (the Paladin) I've read the Sanderson books (library instead of purchase however). I thought they have improved a bit but he's still caught in the "look at every single viewpoint about every single event" trap. I bought the books through 10 and finally sold them. From then on I've read them from the library.


StoryTellerShannon His fifth book was the best selling fiction novel for one month from what I recall in the author's Livejournal. I suspect it is now better known than Jordan's WOT with the HBO series.

One of my favorite series. You're crazy, Mike. ;)


Mike (the Paladin) Possible....but then would I realize it? I just don't care for them, matter of taste I suppose. There's no accounting for taste. Some people like boiled okra, haggis and Gilligan's Island.


StoryTellerShannon I know. Just teasing you.


message 19: by Becky (new)

Becky Oh. I dont believe any really likes Okra. I think people are tricked into thinking they like Okra, but they really dont. Its like some sort of evil vegetable enchantment. Okra is the only thing that even if you wrapped it in bacon and fried it, I still wouldnt like.


Mike (the Paladin) I get that. Even tomato can't save it and I love tomato. Maybe it's like KFC where they "put a chemical in their chicken to make you crave it fortnightly" (hear that in a Scottish accent of course).


message 21: by Bibliognome (new)

Bibliognome Bibliognome wrote: "I'm glad to see there are critical readers out there! ( By the way, I totally agree about the Wheel of Time series - great start but by the sixth book lost it's way and I never continued with it. I..."

It's hard to come to any other conclusion about the editing really. I persisted with Ice and Fire series in the (mad) hope that it might improve and the dearth of really good fiction. I skimmed whole chapters that were great for lighting your fire or recycling as toilet paper. I'd describe the Ice and Fire series as work of bad menus, soft porn, hollow plots and mindnumbingly stupid heroes.


Mike (the Paladin) I think the same. I stayed with it through this one hoping but finally gave up.


message 23: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Patience is a virtue as is understanding what is happening here. ASOIAF is very complex.

I can't take an opinion seriously of people who skim and skip chapters.


message 24: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph Stephen wrote: "Patience is a virtue as is understanding what is happening here. ASOIAF is very complex.

I can't take an opinion seriously of people who skim and skip chapters."


Then why show up and leave your opinion?

I can't take an opinion seriously of anyone who can't leave comments without insults.


message 25: by MrsJoseph (new)

MrsJoseph Mike (the Paladin) wrote: "I think the same. I stayed with it through this one hoping but finally gave up."

You're better than me, Sensei.

I couldn't get through the 1st book. The rapes, the incest, the murders, the bullshit and the overly long chapters/books for no payoff. I'm happy my friends enjoy this book but it's pure garbage to me.

As I said before...I'm rooting for the Others to kill everyone off.


Mike (the Paladin) It bugs some readers when a book they like gets a negative review. I get that, doesn't change the reviewers opinion. I get how you feel MrsJ, except for a couple of characters the whole lot here are rotten. LOL.

Stephen, patience is a virtue...true. This is a novel, not a deep philosophical tome to which I come for wisdom. It's purpose is to tell an interesting story. Some find it so, some don't.

I don't.

You can't take opinions seriously from someone who's skimmed a book. Okay, that's cool. I can. There are many books that I read to the point that I realize I'm not enjoying the book, I'm not into the book...I don't care for the writing style, or the characters themselves, the pacing or whatever. I skim forward to see where the book goes. Now and then I find the book picks up later. Skimming is reading.

But you are free to hold your opinion. You are also free to write your own review of this book and give a positive rating.

So, I'm glad you're enjoying the books. I don't care for them.


message 27: by Micah (new)

Micah R Sisk Read this one a little after it came out, having read the first 3 earlier...I agree w/everything you said. First book: world creation gave it 4-stars; second book: author attempting to write both a historic-like novel where people on both sides die while making us root for only one team wore a bit thin, 3-star; this book...who the F cares anymore. Certainly not the author. I gave up on the whole series and am now living a happy, fulfilled life.


Mike (the Paladin) High five.....


message 29: by Charles (new)

Charles It's refreshing to read someone that agrees with me! I don't want to sound like I'm hating on the fact so many people unquestionably LOVE this series, even when it continues to kick them in the face, but I do have to scratch my head at what really is just poor story-handling at this point. I had to put this down not long into the book because it was obvious in a very shallow way that Martin writes conflict for the sake of conflict, plot for the sake of plot -- the psychology of his characters really breaks down as the plausibility of their actions and choices get more and more "because plot says so" or "because this guy is now a bad guy and this is the sort of thing bad guys do".


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