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message 1: by Anthony (new)

Anthony Chavez This is one I have wanted to pick up for a while... just too many books to read.


message 2: by Emily (new)

Emily <3 I would want to see your review about it. :D


message 3: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Any good?


message 4: by Lou (new)

Lou Snap I am listening to this on audiobook no lie just didn't add it yet as currently reading.


message 5: by Lou (new)

Lou These words repeated on and on and on... Dauntless abnegation, candor and oh yeah DiVergent.


message 6: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Jonathan wrote: "Any good?"

Yes...I ended up liking it after struggling through the first half of the book. Good main character and an exciting second half.


message 7: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Lou wrote: "Snap I am listening to this on audiobook no lie just didn't add it yet as currently reading."

Looking forward to hearing what you think about it.


message 8: by jo (last edited Jan 19, 2012 12:36PM) (new)

jo mo there's really more bad than good in this review that you pointed out, i'm actually really surprised you didn't give it a (max.) 2 star rating ..

(i know i was pretty underwhelmed with divergent, just saying)


message 9: by Stephen (new)

Stephen I think if the first half had been really good and the second half disappointing, I might have been in 2 star territory. However, for me, it ended on a high note and came to really like Tris and I enjoyed both the second half action the big reveal. These were satisfying enough for me to warrant the 3rd star.


message 10: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie The library is holding this one for me, may get to read it this weekend. Looking forward to it!


message 11: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Stephanie wrote: "The library is holding this one for me, may get to read it this weekend. Looking forward to it!"

I hope you like it. If you don't have issues like I did in the first half, I think you will have a lot of fun with it.


Richard Reviles Censorship Always in All Ways The dystopia’s premise didn’t pass even a drive-by smell test.

Your later crush on Tris aside, this kills the book for me. Nuh-uh.

I went back and sobbed a little because you were mean to me on Scalzi's Fuzzy thread. *sniff*


message 13: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Richard wrote: "I went back and sobbed a little because you were mean to me on Scalzi's Fuzzy thread. *sniff*"

Never! *indignant chest thrust* I was merely commenting on your gangsta/CIA posting style.


message 14: by Anne (new)

Anne Great review. It seems more entertaining than the book. :P


message 15: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Anne wrote: "Great review. It seems more entertaining than the book. :P"

Thanks, Anne. The book is actually one I would recommend as it has some good things going for it and potential going forward. I just thought the dystopia premise was weak and the first half was hard to engage with as a result.


Richard Reviles Censorship Always in All Ways Stephen wrote: "Richard wrote: "I went back and sobbed a little because you were mean to me on Scalzi's Fuzzy thread. *sniff*"

Never! *indignant chest thrust* I was merely commenting on your gangsta/CIA posting style."


...I think I tore something laughing...


message 17: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Great review. Unfortunately it didn't redeem itself for me by the end. Will still read the second installment though.


message 18: by Stephen (new)

Stephen I saw that you were under whelmed with this one. Based on the end, I think this is set up to get better in the next installment. *fingers crossed*


message 19: by Anne (new)

Anne Yeah, it can be frustrating when a book with such potential is hard to engage and is poorly thought through. But since you already went through the worst part of it and liked it anyways, i am hopeful that the second book will be better. If not, i will be ready to laugh with your next review. :)


message 20: by Stephen (new)

Stephen FREEBIRD wrote: "YES. THANK YOU. I feel like everyone just ADORED this book, but I could barely chalk up three stars for it. Although, ironically, the first half was what saved it for me rather than the last half..."

Thank you, FREEBIRD. I am very glad you enjoyed it.


message 21: by Jason (new)

Jason Hah, great review as always and great responses. I however, was one that adore this book, both the first and second half. I found the dystopian world to be remenicent of old medieval times. Class bred class, bakers bred bakers and royalty bred royalty. A caste type system with a kick ass heroine.


message 22: by Stephen (new)

Stephen We definitely agree on the kick ass heroine, Jason. I was a fan of Tris by the end of this one. The dystopia just did not work for me, but I did enjoy how it worked up to the big reveal.


message 23: by Jana (new)

Jana I just recently read this book also & thought a few things definitely could have been better, but I loved Four & Tris, so I felt that was worth the time I invested. I'll read the next book for sure.


message 24: by Stephen (new)

Stephen I will read the next book too, Jana. Overall, I thought Roth did a good job. Ilked Four as well, even though he didn't make my review. He should have.


message 25: by Anne (Booklady) (new)

Anne  (Booklady) Molinarolo Good review, but again I reserve to read it for myself and see if I agree with your assessment. Stephen, you are often on the mark about a particular book, I just am deciding to go into the book with an open mind :)


message 26: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Anne (Booklady) wrote: "Good review, but again I reserve to read it for myself and see if I agree with your assessment. Stephen, you are often on the mark about a particular book, I just am deciding to go into the book wi..."

Thanks, Anne. You should absolutely give this a try. We all have different likes and dislikes and a lot of people really love this. I hope you do.


Crystal Starr Light Excellent review, and I agree, the dystopian element was definitely hard to buy. I had so many questions of how our world would change to embrace something so divisive (isn't this culture just BEGGING for them to fight amongst themselves?). I am hoping that Roth will answer some of the questions and make the dystopia a bit more believable in Book 2.


message 28: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Crystal wrote: "Excellent review, and I agree, the dystopian element was definitely hard to buy. I had so many questions of how our world would change to embrace something so divisive (isn't this culture just BEG..."

Thanks, Crystal. I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way.


message 29: by Erika (new)

Erika I don't know, i think I'm starting to forget things about this book but i'm not sure what you mean with the "big reveal"... somehow i can't remember something major at the end (view spoiler)

your reviews are always awesome :)


message 30: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Erika wrote: "I don't know, i think I'm starting to forget things about this book but i'm not sure what you mean with the "big reveal"... somehow i can't remember something major at the end."

Thanks, Erika. As for the big reveal, I was referring to (view spoiler). I thought that was pretty cool.


message 31: by Erika (last edited Jan 20, 2012 12:52PM) (new)

Erika Oh right!... damn, i think when the second book comes out I'm gonna have to re-read the first one as i seem to be forgetting it :P


message 32: by Trudi (new)

Trudi I agree Stephen that the dystopian set-up in this one is pretty thin. This is popcorn dystopia, not genuine sci-fi dystopia. I likened it more to an allegory about the trials and traumas of fitting in and finding your place and voice in the world ... something teen readers can certainly understand. To be "outcast" ... is there a fate worse than that when you are young and unsure?

I also enjoyed the tests and competitions. I thought that was great action. I would not want to uncover and face my deepest fears in this way. Not even maybe!!! no matter how cathartic.

And yes, Tris is great though not quite a Katniss or Saba. Though my FAVORITE heroine of late is Karou from Daughter of Smoke and Bone :)


message 33: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Trudi wrote: "This is popcorn dystopia, not genuine sci-fi dystopia. I likened it more to an allegory about the trials and traumas of fitting in and finding your place and voice in the world."

That is a really good point, Trudi. I like the term popcorn dystopia. I guess I found it too flimsy to pull me into the story, but the book still redeemed itself in the end. I really like the action and the "fear" tests. I own "Daughter of Smoke and Bone" and will have to check out
Blood Red Road based on your fondness for their main characters.


message 34: by Laura Anne (new)

Laura Anne Thank you for this review. Everyone seems to love this book but I am having a hard time getting through the first half. You summed it up...I just don't quite buy the world Roth is building and yet there is nothing really wrong with the writing..*picks book up again for the 100th time*..I will push through!


message 35: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Anne wrote: "Thank you for this review. Everyone seems to love this book but I am having a hard time getting through the first half. You summed it up...I just don't quite buy the world Roth is building..."

Thanks, Anne. I hope the second half redeems it for you as it did me. I thought the book really picked up momentum heading into the finish.


message 36: by LenaZombieSlayer (new)

LenaZombieSlayer Great review! I tried to ignore the flaw of an unbelievable dystopia. I thought maybe it was just me being too critical, but after u explained it I felt less judgmental and more validated lol u explained the weakest link perfectly. Regardless still an entertaining read :)


message 37: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Thank you...I'm glad I'm not alone in that observation. I agree it is still an interesting read and am looking forward to book 2.


message 38: by E.V.Franzmnn (new)

E.V.Franzmnn E.V.Franzmnn How is the audiobook recording??? Any good?


message 39: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Yes, Elisandra. I thought the narration was very good and the production value was excellent.


message 40: by Reem (new)

Reem Awesome review! But I have to say this is one of my favorite books equal to the Hunger Games with me. I think the thing is with me is that I just try to enjoy the book I didn't really pay attention to how realistic their world was because its fiction and I didn't really expect it to be. Call me stupid but I saw it as sorta realistic I mean it wasn't so fake I imagined it as something that a while later might happen somewhere. And it was really unique! Which I loved a lot! I think it was a fun and an extraordinary book, but I'm 17 so that might explain some things lol.


message 41: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Reem, I'm glad you enjoyed the book, and I think your approach/reaction to the book was just fine. There's nothing dumb about loving any story. Despite my issues with the book, I ended up enjoying it and am looking forward to book 2.


message 42: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Stephen I too am very much looking forward to book 2. By the way as a fellow Marvelite and a man who apparently loves all manner of awesome you must get yourself to a screening of The Avengers at some point. Very, very cool.


message 43: by Anne (Booklady) (new)

Anne  (Booklady) Molinarolo Good review. I am still debating on whether to read this one sooner rather than later. Working on my review of The Sisters Brothers now.


message 44: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Looking forward to your review, Anne.


message 45: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Jonathan wrote: "Stephen I too am very much looking forward to book 2. By the way as a fellow Marvelite and a man who apparently loves all manner of awesome you must get yourself to a screening of The Avengers at s..."

Very much look forward to the movie, Jonathan. I will see it soon.


message 46: by Ronyell (new)

Ronyell Awesome review as always Stephen!! I just loved this book!!!


message 47: by Li (new)

Li I really have to disagree about Tris. I find her incredibly unlikable and, worse, inconsistent. She's only a "badass" when it suits the author's fancy; at other points, she's a whimpering mess of self-esteem issues that put her in the running for Bella Swan Wanna-Be of the Year. Bleh. Not a person, not even a character; just a contrivance.


message 48: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie I've decided to stick with it on your recommendation because it's been a bit of a drudge getting past the first 10 chapters. Thus far, the prose seems a little too spartan and lacking in personality, the Dauntless appear too absurd to be real, and like you, I found it difficult to believe a society could be constructed in this way.


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