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message 1: by Camille (new)

Camille Why for you have this and not me why, why...


message 2: by Stefan (new)

Stefan I think it's officially out exactly 2 weeks from now, so you don't have to wait much longer... If we were still in the same city, I'd gladly lend you my copy! I don't think I ever got your thoughts on the first book... what did you think? I have a 2000 word piece about it coming up on tor.com some time this week...


message 3: by Camille (new)

Camille I'll only tell you if you promise not to say I'm overcritical. :) :) (Also, I made a big cliched fantasy map on LJ which you should go inspect right away. To be tangential...)


message 4: by Stefan (new)

Stefan Love the map! And I already know you're overcritical, so not to worry :) (I am too, I think, but I think I may be better at filtering out the bits I'm critical about so it doesn't affect my enjoyment as much - maybe one of the few ways I'm a "glass half full" person?) Either way, I'm curious to hear your opinion, either here or via email or via the shiny Google Plus invite I just sent you. (And my longer article about the book is up on Tor.com today, in case you are interested.)

Oh, and you have creepy dreams.


message 5: by Camille (new)

Camille I do. I do not enjoy them. My only consolation is that since college I can control them somewhat, if I remember I'm dreaming.

I think I posted in your LJ about it, though briefly. I:

1. Thought it was brilliant
2. Got really annoyed at a lot of detractors, which was not nice of me (MAGIC SCHOOLS EXISTED BEFORE HARRY [expletive] POTTER, I may have said on occasion, in all caps, also pointing out the existence of satire and conscious manipulation of tropes and common reference points to make a point)
3. Found it really freaking weird by about 2/3rd of the way through the book that randomly selected-according-to-ability students from the heart New York City would not have a single person of color among them, since the choosing was not according to socioeconomic status. Around the time they were getting naked at the South Pole, and
4. Was pretty ecstatic to hear about a sequel, although I'm not sure how it will fit. The original seemed to say what it had to say and come to a strong point of closure, I thought.

The main character had flaws and some horrible internal double standards, and warranted a good facial smack on many occasions, but on the other hand I never thought I was supposed to like him, just *get * him. (Then again, I also loved “Catcher in the Rye.”)


message 6: by Stefan (new)

Stefan You're right, you did post about it on my LJ (which I'm about to ditch, by the way). I confess I hadn't realized what you mention in your point 3 - but I think we discussed something similar about another book or movie or something. I guess my radar isn't wired for that type of thing.

And - I just finished the sequel, and wish I could give you my copy now because I'm dying to see what you'll make of it.


message 7: by Camille (new)

Camille It's a fair cop, but society's to blame. :)

No really, society is to blame, and some of us it wires subtly, and others it smacks in the face a lot. In this case I wouldn't have noticed, except he called it out during the stripping down at the South Pole scene with a line about everyone's creamy white buttocks lined up in a row or something (and not in salacious --or even appealing-- language), which is a sort of line that is going to get analysis or extra thought of SOME kind just because damn. My thought obviously being, "Wait, everyone has had the exact same color buttocks all this time?" (And no, that is not the direction my thoughts usually willingly go! Thanks bunches, Lev...)

You should keep your LJ so you can see mine on occasion, if it comes up. You don't have to post in it. It's basically why I have a Journalfen account. Dreamwidth too, actually. I don't use them.


message 8: by Stefan (new)

Stefan I'll keep the LJ account, mainly for the reason you mentioned. I probably just won't bother copying everything I write there anymore. I keep thinking I should make, like, a proper website, now I'm getting some real work and so on, but then I see all these nightmares with spammers and hackers and whatnot... Bleh.


message 9: by Camille (new)

Camille There's got to be ways around hackers and whatnot, even if it's requiring commenters sign in with an account or some such. I think the good would outweigh the headache in your case? A consolidated web presence would be good for you, I think. Would you do a more general blog, with opinions and so on, or just continue posting/crossposting various reviews as you do now?

(How evil would it be if I got the ebook of The Magician King? I'm really disturbed at how much of a convert I've become, and that with just my PHONE. I haven't actually got a proper eReader.)

(For the record, I dreamt about my mother and I being stuck at the south pole. Obviously I am ridiculously suggestible. I kept falling off the iceberg. Interestingly, while I did fear death and knew I was sinking more resolutely than usual due to some law of physics with extremely cold temperatures, I did not perceive much cold. Also, we had anoraks. ;-D)


message 10: by Stefan (new)

Stefan I've been thinking about doing a proper blog, but right now I'm enjoying just having a few platforms for reviews and other articles. It seems like a lot of work to have to provide additional daily material to post there, especially because it tends to take me a long time before I'm happy enough with something to release it into the wild. I'm still considering, basically. LJ would be perfect, except barely anyone seems to read mine :)

And - I'm an ebook convert, but I don't think I could read them on a phone. The iPad is more or less perfect, as it allows me to read books along with everything else it does.


message 11: by Ryan (new)

Ryan I'll admit that I predicted the ending at 37%.


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