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Katlyn O: LUCKY!


message 2: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair I made a detour to the book store today on my way home from work. I'm excited!


message 3: by Katlyn (new)

Katlyn I went to mine last night and it didn't have it -.- You lucky duck, hope you enjoy it!


message 4: by Sarah (new)

Sarah M I just picked it up after work today. Going to start Divergent then read this right after my brother finishes it!


message 5: by Sophie (new)

Sophie Got mine at the library today! So excited to start it!


message 6: by Holly (new)

Holly I am also excited by this one - and its thicker than the last one :)


message 7: by Jessica (new)

Jessica I'm super excited to read this one I loved the last one so I hope this one doesn't dissapoint.


message 8: by Sasha (new)

Sasha I have such mixed feelings about this book (I finished it last night) and I can't tell if I'm really confused or if it's one of those books you just need to bounce ideas and commentary off another person until you can narrow down your own feelings.


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Sasha Not confused about the content, confused about whether I liked it or not


message 10: by Holly (new)

Holly Sasha wrote: "Not confused about the content, confused about whether I liked it or not"

I can understand that, its such a different book from the last one. its a lot darker and some of Tris' decisions and thought processes are either irritating or depressing. I still really enjoyed it though. I read it much faster than Divergent but think its because I wanted to get past some if the bits I was reading, and wanted her to make some different decisions than I could see her making!


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Sasha Holly wrote: "Sasha wrote: "Not confused about the content, confused about whether I liked it or not"

I can understand that, its such a different book from the last one. its a lot darker and some of Tris' deci..."


One of the things that I thought was extraordinarily different between the two books was her relationship with Tobias. In Divergent, the relationship between Tris and Four was secondary to everything else that was going on. In Insurgent, however, I thought it flipped. I don't think it makes it a bad novel or of a lower quality for doing it that way (after all, what's worth fighting for in a war if not the people you go home to?) but I think that's why I'm not as adamantly inlove with the second book as I was with the first. Because I really respected/enjoyed the first book for never making the plot about the couple-to-be, and the second book seems to do just that.


message 12: by Sophie (new)

Sophie Sasha wrote: "Holly wrote: "Sasha wrote: "Not confused about the content, confused about whether I liked it or not"

I can understand that, its such a different book from the last one. its a lot darker and some..."


Despite the fact that Tris and Four's relationship is more visible in this book, I don't think it's that big of a focus of the book. There's still a lot going on with the factions and Tris's own issues, but I think that it was necessary for Roth to develop their relationship, since you can't exactly proclaim that two characters love each other and then never try to show that they do.


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Oh! I am jealous of you right now because I really, REALLY want to read this one, and the library never has it and last time I went to the bookstore, they didn't have it either :( very depressing!


message 14: by Amanda (new)

Amanda The Book Slayer How are you liking it so far? I read this one in a day. I just couldn't put it down and then at the end I had an "aha" moment. Now I need the next book.


message 15: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair Mommaseymour wrote: "How are you liking it so far? I read this one in a day. I just couldn't put it down and then at the end I had an "aha" moment. Now I need the next book."

So far it's just okay for me. I found it difficult to get into the beginning and the angst is a bit frustrating. But I hear the ending is worth it, so I'm hoping it changes my mind!

@Emily, Oh that sucks! I hope you're able to find a copy soon!


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Stephanie wrote: "Mommaseymour wrote: "How are you liking it so far? I read this one in a day. I just couldn't put it down and then at the end I had an "aha" moment. Now I need the next book."

So far it's just okay..."


Thanks :) I hope so too.

@Mommaseymour, that sounds so much like something I would do... read it in a day and then wish I hadn't because I have to wait til the next one!

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It's weird because a lot of my friends that have read the book also believed Tris was whiny and self-destructive, but reading about Tris was like reading about me 6 months ago. I was unbelievably self-destructive because I was wracked with guilt and regret over things I'd done or didn't do. I really think Tris had to feel all this guilt and angst to understand that even though we may do horrible things, we can always redeem ourselves and fight for what is right in the end. I really felt for Tris and I just wanted to tell her all would be okay.


message 18: by Danielle (new)

Danielle The ending was rather predictable. (view spoiler)


message 19: by Laurel (new)

Laurel Oh man you were under the simulation too? Damn them simulations. I'm VERY excited for your review.


message 20: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia  Nichole I must say, I thoroughly enjoyed this book, but I am even more anxious to hear your full thoughts on this than I was waiting for Insurgent's.

@Danielle: Exactly. I thought to myself(view spoiler). And that's what happened. Therefore, I had to wait about two hundred pages to confirm what I already know, which was pretty frustrating.


message 21: by Jubilation Lee (new)

Jubilation Lee ::: claps ::: Cannot *wait* for you to wake up tomorrow and add more about what you hated. ;)


message 22: by [deleted user] (new)

Danielle wrote: "The ending was rather predictable. "

Oh no! Well, I will just HAVE to read this really REALLY soon so that I can see what it's all about... The anticipation and mixed responses this book is getting is killing me! I just want to read it, and my library still hasn't got it in... some other lucky person is sitting out there in the world reading it while I sit here dying from the suspense, which, may I add, has been there for a very long time and

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message 23: by Lissa (new)

Lissa Really looking forward to your review. I'd really like to know what you think of it. I think it's strange it's only got 2 stars from you.


message 24: by rameau (new)

rameau This review I want to read.


Amy (Turn the Page) Lol really? See I avoided all the marketing campaign like the plague. It drove me nuts for an entire month!


message 26: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair Yeah, I can see why everyone who rated it higher liked the ending because it *is* the best part, but it's like 30 pages of "not bad, Roth" to 500 pages of me unable to decide who to chuck out the window: me or the book.


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Stephanie wrote: "Yeah, I can see why everyone who rated it higher liked the ending because it *is* the best part, but it's like 30 pages of "not bad, Roth" to 500 pages of me unable to decide who to chuck out the w..."


Aww, come on, it can't be that bad..... Can it?


message 28: by Jana (new)

Jana Oh, this is next on my two-read list - and i didn't even enjoy the first one as you guys. Still have to find the time to write a review. Maybe I'll postpone reading this and start with Angelfall instead (also bought because of your and your friends praising (?) reviews).


message 29: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair @Emily, I think a lot of people will really enjoy Insurgent, especially if you loved the first one.

@Jana, Oh! Read Angelfall!! :D


message 30: by shady boots (new)

shady boots Jana wrote: "Oh, this is next on my two-read list - and i didn't even enjoy the first one as you guys. Still have to find the time to write a review. Maybe I'll postpone reading this and start with Angelfall in..."

OH MY GOD YES READ ANGELFALL! :DDD


message 31: by Maria (new)

Maria Sigh. Insurgent is such a disappointment alright. Where did all the awesomeness of Divergent went?... down the drain, that's where. :)


message 32: by Jana (new)

Jana All right then. Angelfall will be my Whitsun Monday entertainment. I didn't really want to start Insurgent before I had finished my review of Divergent. And I can't be bothered to write anything these days - just want to sit outside and read. :D

Thanks for the encouragement, you guys!


message 33: by Lyndi (new)

Lyndi Wait, the book cost $17.99? Christ on a cracker, that's a lot.


message 34: by Pricky (new)

Pricky What a bummer! I really enjoyed Insurgent...although painful at times. And I keep hearing about this AngelFall book! I really need to get my hands on that one!


message 35: by Lhara (new)

Lhara I really enjoyed this book, probably more than Divergent as I kept comparing Divergent with THG. I know the books had flaws, but I fell in love with it and really didn't expect to. I actually read both these books and Everneath whilst I was on holiday. Divergent because I'd heard good things about it and Everneath as you gave it a good review. And though I liked Everneath, I definitely like Divergent and sequel better. It's always so weird how one book someone likes, another can hate, and it's also strange when you think you have the same tastes as someone else (which is why I follow your reviews, for the recs!) But anyway, I'm sorry Insurgent wasn't great for you. Will you be reading the third when it comes out?


message 36: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair @Soapy, Yeah, if they rest of the book was as interesting as the ending I would have given it a higher rating.

@Lyndi, Books-A-Million is high.

@Pricky, Yes, you must read Angelfall. It was my favorite of 2011!

@Lhara, Isn't it odd how that happens? I can definitely see why some poeple like it, though! Yeah, I'll read book three. I need to see how it all ends. Hopefully, I'll enjoy it better too.


message 37: by Jennie (new)

Jennie I agree with all of your major points. I was so disappointed that this book fell so flat.


message 38: by Syahira (new)

Syahira Sharif I love the spock gif!!! oh.. leonard nimoy, you saved fringe... love2

and now i'm never going to start reading insurgent... le sigh


message 39: by Lhara (new)

Lhara I hope so too! And maybe if you ever re-read Insurgent, it won't be as bad! Also, I think you (or someone) said that the ending made or broke it for people? Well, I wasn't too fussed about the ending. I think I knew from the offset that the revelation wasn't going to be that amazing (and idk, I almost feel I've been down that path before - waiting for a revelation sort of like that and it is anti-climatic, though I can't remember from what), so I didn't set myself up for the ending to be the best part. For me, it was more the journey and my other favourite thing was the secondary characters - Like Christina. And it's kinda funny, whilst reading it, I was all, "Wow, this is so enthralling, I think people will find it hard to dislike" and haha, I was wrong! (But I also found myself growing frustrated with Tris' erratic behaviour.)


message 40: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair @Jennie, At least book three seems like it will be more exciting.

@Syahira, You might like. Majority of readers reviewed it positively.

@Lhara, Was it A Million Suns? I was so disappointed by that book's revelation too. I agree with you about Christina. I really liked her character. I hope she has a bigger role in book three! I guess, I understand why Tris was so erratic, but it was frustrating at the same time.


message 41: by Lhara (new)

Lhara I haven't read A Million Suns, so not that! It might even be a tv show or film. The whole big revelation thing does seem to be a common story arc!

I hope there's more of Christina in book 3, and she better not die! My favourite part in book 2 was definitely (view spoiler)

Wrg to tris' character being erratic, I have been thinking a lot about it. Obviously she's burdened with an entire amount of grief, and that's what makes her act all over the place. It was frustrating, but maybe part of that was our limitations of being able to understand someone's world breaking down completely? I think we're so used to reading/watching about things such as death etc, that when it happens, we almost expect the character to have a bit of a break down and then get over it? Where as in RL, someone can take years to reach an acceptable state, and will possibly never move on from that. That said, it is important to balance a real portrayal of grief and the effects it has vs being able to move forward so the reader doesn't get lost in it all, and I guess that's tricky. But then there were places where I felt Roth was doing the whole telling and not showing thing wrg to Tris. (view spoiler)

So overall, Tris wasn't a big problem for me though I can definitely see why she is. Actually, my biggest problem, and idk if anyone else found this, was that Roth didn't always describe situations properly, so in places I had no idea where they really were (like at one stage, I think Tris had agreed to go with a few to Candor HQ or wherever and then they were attacked, but I wasn't sure if they actually got there), and I had no idea where each base was in relation to each other. It seems where they live is a futuristic version of Chicago(?) so it would suggest it's a big place, but sometimes it felt like you could just hop to one place or another and that it was far too easy to get around (characters suddenly turning up out of nowhere etc.)

Sorry, this turned into a mini-essay! No one I know has read Insurgent (or even Divergent for that matter) so I just wanted to discuss it!


message 42: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair Yes! I was happy (view spoiler)

I totally think Tris' erratic behavior was justified, but I feel like there were too many pages of it in the book. For as long as the book is, it's an awful long time to sit around feeling sorry for Tris. I did feel sorry in the beginning, but it dragged for me. So I completely agree with what you said about balance. I'm not sure why she blamed defying Tobias on grief. Because again, she was choosing when to be selfless and selfish. She knew that defying him would hurt him, but she put herself in harms way over and over. Then, she switch up and decide to be selfless towards other people she didn't know. Her behavior was very inconsistent.

And yes! I noticed that's as we'll with the descriptions. Remember when they were running through the corn fields in the beginning and it's like, the next sentence they somehow made it to the clearing? The scene transitions were confusing at times. And if the Factionless are rebelling, is it reasonable to assume they aren't the ones operating the train? Lol. I mean, I still want to know! It seems like their society is kinda small, doesn't it? Just a five minute train right from one faction to the other.

No! I like the discussion! I can totally see where you're coming from. :)


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I haven't picked this up, Stephanie but I had a lot of issues with this first book mainly with world building (society wise) and also the ending (and weird kiss at the end with T/T). I was wondering if you suggest I pick this up - at least for worldbuilding? e.g. Do things get explained about the society and how it came to be?


message 44: by Amanda (last edited May 26, 2012 06:33PM) (new)

Amanda The Book Slayer Danielle wrote: "The ending was rather predictable. [spoilers removed]"

OMG I totally thought of (view spoiler) as well when I read this. lol


message 45: by [deleted user] (new)

I feel you, girl. I loved this review. I was so disappointed by Tris' lack of self worth, while everyone around her coddled her and tried to jack up her self esteem.


message 46: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair Rachel wrote: "I haven't picked this up, Stephanie but I had a lot of issues with this first book mainly with world building (society wise) and also the ending (and weird kiss at the end with T/T). I was wonderin..."

Haha, there is yet another weird kiss at the end. Things are explained a little more in the last few pages of the book. Most of the explanation will probably be done in book three. I personally don't like waiting that long for world building explanations, but Roth has kinda tied the mystery of their world into her overall plot. So I guess it can't really be avoided.


message 47: by JD (new)

JD Ohthankgod. We had the same reading experience and that makes me happy. I was beginning to feel like I was the only one not turned on by these books.


message 48: by Amanda (Good Choice Reading) (last edited May 26, 2012 06:54PM) (new)

Amanda (Good Choice Reading) I loved Insurgent but I definitely agree about Tris being inconsistent. She didn't seem like the same character to me. In fact, neither did Four. And all that promo that went into it was absolutely ridiculous. It was going to do well either way...I still don't understand why they felt the need to go to such extremes, and I probably never will. Other books that are just as good don't get shit for promotion. Grr.


message 49: by [deleted user] (new)

Stephanie wrote: "Rachel wrote: "I haven't picked this up, Stephanie but I had a lot of issues with this first book mainly with world building (society wise) and also the ending (and weird kiss at the end with T/T)...."

There's ANOTHER weird kiss? Gah what is WITH this couple! Also I often want to grumble that Roth named Four after my favorite/first fictional boyfriend ever (from The Encounter / Animorphs) and Four does not compare lol.. And I guess I'll wait til book 3 before I read book 2. I just want decent world building, Stephanie - is that really so hard to ask for? damn it's like asking for snow this year on the East Coast lol... we had like nothin'!


message 50: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair @JD, we do seem to be in the minority, but I'm happy to see others really enjoyed the book. Maybe next time for us.

@Amanda, Ugh. The promo was nuts! Every time I turned around it was being tweeted and people were declaring Factions. So much hype is never really good for a book.

@Rachel, I have no idea. Why won't they listen to us? Since Roth has been holding off for the big reveal in book three, it has to be good. Otherwise, I'll have a sad.


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