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message 1: by Andrea (new)

Andrea If I had to guess, people like to rank books that aren't out yet by how much they are looking forward to it. Not how they think it will be.


message 2: by Maggie (new)

Maggie That's what I'm disagreeing with. It's not fair for those who haven't read any books in the series to look at the rating of a book before it's even come out and judge it based on that - because, well, some people can't tell that it's not a real review (yes, those people exist), and start forming opinions based on these false impressions. I just don't think it's fair to rate a book on what peoples' anticipation of it will be, because that's not what a rating is meant to be.


message 3: by Matt (new)

Matt The four offenders are... http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10...


message 4: by Corie (new)

Corie I agree! that's just wrong.


message 5: by Erin (new)

Erin Wall People in the book world get ARE's (Advanced Reading Editions) some people who review early have already read the book. I've gotten books up to 6 months in advance. Some, however, are just really enthusiastic


message 6: by Maggie (new)

Maggie I posted this in June, so it would have been almost a year before the release date. So no, I don't think there would have been ARCs out at that time. When I posted this, the average review was around the 3-4 star range, which I thought completely off based on the fact that the book wasn't even out yet and the fact that the first book had a much higher rating.
And yes, I agree that some people are just overly eager to read new books. While showing people their anticipation of the book is a good thing, affecting people's pre-perceptions of a book based on a rating, which is supposed to reflect the content of the book, is wrong. That was my take on the rating at the time.


message 7: by Ashton (new)

Ashton White really, already reviewed it? LAMESAUCE!!!


message 8: by Courtney (new)

Courtney Probably an agent trying to rig the votes just like they're doing for Kiera Cass's THE SELECTION.


message 9: by Sejal (new)

Sejal There is an excerpt I just read. http://shelf-life.ew.com/2012/02/21/i...


message 10: by Shannon (new)

Shannon Forsley-vanoostrom I rated it by accident and can't figure out how to unrate it?????


message 11: by Liesl (new)

Liesl I also mistakenly rated it and can't undo it either. Sorry!


message 12: by Charlene (new)

Charlene Love If you know a publisher, apparently you can read it ahead of time. Wahhhhhh. I think it's a cup of crap if you ask me.


message 13: by Mrs. Lapacka (new)

Mrs. Lapacka Advanced reader copies are regularly sent out to book stores and to people who are on the committees who vote for awards...they haven't been edited for final errors, but chances are, there are hundreds of advanced copies out there for this book.


message 14: by Hannah (new)

Hannah I rated it... Because I loved the first one and am looking forward to the second one... This doesn't mean I won't change it after reading it..


message 15: by Linsey (new)

Linsey I don't understand people who troll other peoples ratings/reviews and slate them for what they've selected.

It's their choice; leave them to it.

People on here rate books unfairly all the time. They rig votes and they push books on readers in the hopes that you'll read something you normally wouldn't.

Show a little respect and let people make up their own minds based on the information available.

We knew it wasn't available. We knew there was nothing to base the rating on, therefore those rating it we're likely pushers.

In the meantime, save your energy. The pushers aren't listening to you and the rest of us are having to watch you waste your breath.


message 16: by Maggie (last edited May 01, 2012 06:43PM) (new)

Maggie Before any more comments come in thinking that my pre-review addresses all raters out there, I'd like to first point out is that the review I wrote was when Insurgent had, in my opinion, an abysmally low rating when the reaction to the first book says otherwise.

Thanks for your insight, Linsey, but a lot of what you said applies to you as well.

I made the choice of posting this; thanks for leaving me to it.

I don't particularly believe that in this case, the ratings *at the time* were an attempt to push books on readers, since they were low ratings; unless I'm missing something here, people don't normally give books bad ratings in the hopes that others will read something they normally wouldn't.

I'm sorry if I seemed disrespectful, but in all honesty I felt that the book was dealt injustice for the low ratings and felt that I had to voice my *very emotional* opinion on that. However, I also felt that by putting this there for others to see and become more consciously aware of, people can make up their own minds based on the information available.

I'm aware that the book wasn't available. And I already addressed the idea of the pushers, unless you're actually referring to the people who want to discourage others from this book, in which I feel that my voiced out opinion has more relevance to providing another viewpoint on the ratings.

Thanks for your advice, but it didn't take much energy to type up a small, five sentence paragraph. I never had the specific purpose of having anyone listen to me (as I review books sporadically for the pure fun and completely on my whim) and I never expected it to have as many views or even likes as this. I'm sure I could have spared the energy; otherwise it would have just become entropy and end up in the same place either way.


message 17: by Izzat (new)

Izzat Zainal I agree with you Maggie! Loving this review. I swear I'll punch anyone's face if they said Insurgent's bad because Four and Tris argues a lot.


message 18: by Marisa (new)

Marisa Purcell Wow, awesome review. Much more that I could ever put into words but you described my feelings exactly! Thanks for a great review!!!


message 19: by Michelle (new)

Michelle Sharp That was an AMAZING review!!!


message 20: by Alexandra (new)

Alexandra I'm kinda not happy that it was left off like that. Haha
Did the writing seem not as well done in the beginning? It kind of threw me off, I don't remember if that was how Divergent was, but I might have just spoiled myself with authors who wrote their books more eloquently.


message 21: by Micheline (new)

Micheline GREAT review! You covered all the bases and brought up EVERYTHING I loved about this book and this series! Now on to the torturous wait till book 3 :)


message 22: by Firevsice (new)

Firevsice Wow are you like a mind reader or something because even I coudnt have written what I felt about this book better!! I read this book in a day..I actually took a day of from school to read it (in the pretext of studying for an exam of course ;) ) anyways I don't think a book can get more real than this! I can't believe there is no release date for the next book yet..how am I going to count down the days till I get to read yet another awesome book!!


message 23: by Sandy (new)

Sandy Dennington Great review!! Thanks!!!


message 24: by Jamie (new)

Jamie Loved the review. Perfect!


message 25: by Shawnee (new)

Shawnee Wow. Amazing Review.


message 26: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Thanks for the wonderful review!! No spoilers, and cliffhanger heads-up. Much appreciated =)


message 27: by Diane (new)

Diane Great review! I'm in the middle of the book now and enjoying it


message 28: by Elissa (new)

Elissa Barbosa agree with your great review


message 29: by Anna (new)

Anna I'M SO CONFUSED! The big secret that was revealed at the end...is there a disease ravaging humanity, or was that a metaphor for the fact that humanity has grown too "cruel"? Because I don't understand how that could have happened?


message 30: by Anna (new)

Anna I'M SO CONFUSED! The big secret that was revealed at the end...is there a disease ravaging humanity, or was that a metaphor for the fact that humanity has grown too "cruel"? Because I don't understand how that could have happened?


message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

i hated the ending it was a bit boring and not different, what did you think of four?


message 32: by Julianne (new)

Julianne quoting your review above: I would be cautious of reading Insurgent if I were you. The ending was the most terrible, horrible, jaw-dropping cliffhanger that I've read in a while.

I just wondered if you had read Delirium and
Pandemonium by Lauren Oliver. They're not as good as Divergent/Insurgent, but I thought the ending of Pandemonium was so bad in terms of - oh no! for the characters, and it leaves you with a lot of questions.


Just wondering.


message 33: by Maggie (new)

Maggie Julianne wrote: "quoting your review above: I would be cautious of reading Insurgent if I were you. The ending was the most terrible, horrible, jaw-dropping cliffhanger that I've read in a while.

I just wondered ..."

I actually haven't. It's sitting in my shelves, but I never brought myself to read it. Maybe I should? I'm sure other books also have terrible cliffhangers too (in the best way possible) but I wrote this review right after reading it so I'm pretty sure my emotions made me exaggerate a little haha.


message 34: by Ayesha (new)

Ayesha Awesome review!!


message 35: by Cbass2001 (new)

Cbass2001 ITS AN AWESOME BOOK


message 36: by Alex (new)

Alex I think this is my favorite book! :)


message 37: by Damascinian (new)

Damascinian such a good review :)
go ahead Dauntless :P


message 38: by Ethan (new)

Ethan Iverson Reading this review I find it thorough, concise, and effective. I concur with everything said but I disagree with the fact that focus of the novel was the conspiracy versus conspiracy and the struggle to choose what is right. It felt like the main focus of the book was an uneven mixture of Tris' and Tobias' relationship problems and getting rid of the tyrannical Jeanine. Throughout the book Tris's main goal appears to prove to others that she is brave. Not only brave, but to seek revenge for her parent's death by solving the Jeanine problem. That seems to be her burning drive of the book. Other than the occasional disturbance of their seemingly irreparable relationship the book keeps the reader engaged and I must concur on everything else stated.


message 39: by Hannah (new)

Hannah Wilborn Am I the only one who thought that Tris was being too whiny? Sure things don't go your way and you and your almost boyfriend are having "problems", but what do expect from people living in ruins of what was once a well-organized factioned society. The fluidity felt from Divergent to Insurgent was amazing! Roth did an excellent job with picking up right where things left off. I must say though, the drama element in this book with Tobias and Evelyn was amazing. At times I hated her, and other times, she is the real MVP. Talk about women empowerment!
But anyways, the beginning of the book was amazing, but as the book went on, it became more confusing and dare I say, unnecessary. The plot became a little too thick for my taste. If I had to pick between this book and Divergent, I would definitely go for the former.
I think another problem with this book too is that I was basically comparing everything in Insurgent to it predecessor, which was by far the best book in the trilogy.
Overall, it was good, just good.


message 40: by Peggy (new)

Peggy I just finished the entire trilogy and thought Divergent was great in its outwayd simplicity but underneath complex humans had to decide to change their outlooks to conform. In Insurgent, their world falls apart and everyone seems to just "go along". This was clear when the factionless manage to quietly disarm Dauntless. All that training just gone? I won't go into the third book but it seemed like too much too fast


message 41: by Abi (new)

Abi I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!


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