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message 1: by Cait (new)

Cait That's exactly what I felt when I read it; especially about Four. I pretty much had to make him up myself because I was so turned off about the deep eye sockets, fingers, etc. It probably took about half the book to imagine him as good looking again. Definitely not the best love-intrest I've ever read.


Crystal Starr Light For some reason, I read him to look like that guy from The Vampire Diaries, and I was okay.

Paul Wesley vampire diaries


message 3: by Chichipio (new)

Chichipio This is a great review of a book I didn't like very much. Maybe it was because I had trouble understanding Tris's crush on Four, since that's exactly how I pictured him in my head.

My problem with some of this books isn't that this kind of society doesn't work; it's how they even came to be in the first place. Slavery and The holocaust I can understand. There are political and economic reasons that explain their inception, spread, and finally, their end.
In layman's terms:
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But in cases like this? Thin, pretty thin.

And in my case, it didn't help that most of the action during much of the book was just practice. That took out most of the urgency.

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message 4: by Underpressure (last edited Jul 20, 2011 10:28AM) (new)

Underpressure you're hilarious!


message 5: by Cait (last edited Jul 20, 2011 10:28AM) (new)

Cait Ohhhh..... I could live with that! Or the other guy from the same show!


I know you can't tell but his eyes are blue, and he was hot when he was younger like in this picture, or, at least I think so.


message 6: by Jo (new)

Jo Hahaha this review is hilarious.
I love dystopian shenanigans.


message 7: by Lyndsey (new)

Lyndsey Chichipio wrote: "I hope you can appreciate how I'm trying to divert attention from certain camp related incident. I just hope it wasn't "band camp." Well, unless you want to tell the story. In that case, you have the floor"

Um... Well, it was definitely NOT church camp! That's for sure. *sly grin*

And I'm sorry but I still don't understand the Holocaust. When things like that happen, I'm sure it makes sense to someone at some point. Thing is: we weren't ever really told how or why it started in this book. Maybe if we had been, that would have helped. It might have even been a 5 in that case.


message 8: by Lyndsey (new)

Lyndsey Cait wrote: "Ohhhh..... I could live with that! Or the other guy from the same show!


I know you can't tell but his eyes are blue, and he was hot when he was younger like in this picture, or, at least I thi..."


Oh Cait, he is ALWAYS hot. And I'm so glad that I wasn't the only who thought Four's description sounded awful.


message 9: by Gloria (last edited Jul 20, 2011 10:48AM) (new)

Gloria Mundi I'm an expert at nagging. I'm sure my nagging could transform the world. Or so I am told.

I don't know, this book doesn't sound like my kind of thing because I just cannot buy into the premise. I think a good dystopia is supposed to make sense, as in, it COULD happen. That's what makes it so scary. Slavery, genocide etc do make sense in this way, not just because there are historically documented occurrences, but because there are people who profit from them. They are almost inevitable, in fact, unless society puts laws and protections in place to prevent them. Can you tell I have a very bleak view of humanity yet?

That's not to say that purely speculative fiction doesn't have it's place.


message 10: by Flannery (new)

Flannery Church camp? That sounds, er, fun. I loved the Gollum description. I'm sure that's the look she was going for! I mean, everybody thinks Gollum is a babe. Amiright or amiright? Hoooooottie.


message 11: by Cait (last edited Jul 20, 2011 11:03AM) (new)

Cait Lyndsey wrote: "Cait wrote: "Ohhhh..... I could live with that! Or the other guy from the same show!


I know you can't tell but his eyes are blue, and he was hot when he was younger like in this picture, or, a..."


Yes he is! I could definitely live with Four if he looked like that, that's for sure ;)

Yeah, that description was terrible! I appreciate that Tris doesn't have a fetish for his eyes or wings or something like a lot of other girls from books seem to have these days ( we understand that the MC loves the guy, authors! No need to repeat it about a million freaking times) But Roth's was just not enough; it's one of the few times I wished the MC would look at the guy more and describe him in better detail.


message 12: by Lyndsey (new)

Lyndsey Sure, Flann. Gollum is SUPER hot. If you like the emaciated, gray skin, extremely small genitals look...


message 13: by Flannery (new)

Flannery Who doesn't like that?


message 14: by Crowinator (new)

Crowinator Now I'm going to have a mash-up of Ian Somerhalder and Gollum in my head when I remember this book. Creeeepy.

Great review, very insightful and funny. I always love your pictures.


message 15: by Bridget (new)

Bridget Loved your 'blinded by Barrons' comment. Great review.


message 16: by [deleted user] (new)

You crazy rebel, you made out with a teacher at camp?

I love the five traits device. They need a Slytherin in there, though.

Gollum is crazy hot. Total body confidence, guy wears a loincloth and works it.

It sounds very good, Lyndsey. Fabbo review as always.


message 17: by Andrea (new)

Andrea Your list of dystopian shenanigans has made me see this book as a Final Fantasy game.


message 18: by Lyndsey (new)

Lyndsey Andrea wrote: "Your list of dystopian shenanigans has made me see this book as a Final Fantasy game."

Haha. Really? I haven't played any Final Fantasy yet, but I'm a huge RPG fan, particularly for all things Bioware. But now that you mention FF, I might have to give it a try. I've always wanted to anyway.


message 19: by Lyndsey (new)

Lyndsey Moss wrote: "You crazy rebel, you made out with a teacher at camp?

I love the five traits device. They need a Slytherin in there, though.

Gollum is crazy hot. Total body confidence, guy wears a loincloth..."


I think that Dauntless is kind of the Slytherin of Divergent. Or at least certain characters look at them like they are. They are the "crazy" ones. Except that Slytherins are a bunch of bleeding cowards, they only pretend to be fearless.


message 20: by Andrea (new)

Andrea Almost all FF worlds are dystopian. And there seems to be a lot of tower-climbing and train-hopping involved in some of them. If you're going to dip your toe in, start with 7 (old graphics and all) or 10.


message 21: by Lyndsey (new)

Lyndsey Yeah, I've had somebody tell me that I would like 10. At least, I think that's the one they said. There's so many that I don't even see how people who've played them can keep them all straight.


message 22: by Andrea (new)

Andrea No harder than keeping Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale and Torment straight (except, of course, the lack of distinctive names). But they're all different worlds, with different plots and more or less different characters (if you count the long array of gutsy/angsty/rebellious young men as 'different characters'). Except for the most recent, they're all strong stories, which is what makes rpg's work for me. [Though I'm playing The Witcher at the moment and finding that clumsy gameplay makes strong story hard to appreciate (and it's kind of 'blokey' strong story as well, which isn't quite working for me).]


message 23: by Gloria (new)

Gloria Mundi Talking of being blinded by Barrons, KMM has realeased a scene from Barrons' POV on her website yesterday.


message 24: by Lyndsey (new)

Lyndsey Seriously, Gloria?!! Eeeeeeeeeeep! *runs off to KMM's website*

Andrea - I've totally been spoiled by the movie like experience of Bioware games, I'm not sure that I could get into The Witcher, especially since I haven't heard many good things about it


message 25: by Gloria (last edited Jul 22, 2011 11:00AM) (new)

Gloria Mundi http://www.karenmoning.com/kmm/jzbsce...

It's quite hot. Not what I was expecting, though, and I am choosing to think it's all in his head as I don't really like the implications. One of the things I like best about Mac is that she doesn't fall into his lap and gives him as good as she gets.


message 26: by Lyndsey (last edited Jul 22, 2011 11:11AM) (new)

Lyndsey Gloria wrote: "http://www.karenmoning.com/kmm/jzbsce...

It's quite hot. Not what I was expecting, though, and I am choosing to think it's all in his head as I don't really like the implications. One of the..."


Hhaahaha. Good grief. I literally just stabbed myself in the eye on accident when I opened that page. How? I'm still not sure, but it actually happened. Phew!! Okay, now my vision is all blurry and I'm not sure I'll be able to read it! Dammit. Ah well, I'm going to try anyway.


message 27: by Gloria (new)

Gloria Mundi Oh no! Hope you are ok. That picture is a bit... Khmmmm....


message 28: by Katy (new)

Katy Curse you JZB for ruining us all any other male leads! I am going through this now with ALL the current readings, but Bones has made it a little more enjoyable ; )


message 29: by Isabel (new)

Isabel My Beatrisssssssssssss.

This part made me laugh so hard that I still have tears in my eyes. Ohh, Lordy. You are so hilarious. ;-)


message 30: by Ami (new)

Ami Blackwelder loooooooved it


message 31: by ShyStar (new)

ShyStar i loved the book... i genuinly cant wait for the second part! i definitly agree with the review regarding four as the love intrest as it was too obvious and not as exciting. i was wondering if anyone could recommend any more books to me like divergent.. ive read the hunger games but i think thats about it in terms of the adventure/action genre.. but i am hooked and would love to read more! thanks


Rebecca ♥ Matrim, Kishan, Magnus ♥ What is all this talk of being blinded by Barrons? I am not catching the reference. If its another YA romance I need to read it! I have been trying desperately to find a love interest as amazing as in The Iron Fey, but with little success. He is my standard, as it seems Barron is for you.


message 33: by Lyndsey (new)

Lyndsey Well, it's definitely not YA. It's adult urban fantasy and it is very adult. There are some graphic scenes in the later books. It's the Fever series, starting with Darkfever. If you don't think the content will bother you, then the series is amazing.


Rebecca ♥ Matrim, Kishan, Magnus ♥ Oh, haha. Well I'm not actually YA. I'm 27, but I just like reading it. But I also read some adult urban fantasy as well. So thanks for the info. I'll definitely look into it.


Rebecca ♥ Matrim, Kishan, Magnus ♥ *marks as to-read* And its about Fey too! I like fey atm because of my current obsession, The Iron Fey series. But it's YA so it's super light compared to Fever.


message 36: by Heather (new)

Heather Sellers @Cait-thank you so much for suggesting that Four looks like Ian Somerhalder! I just read this book and the whole time pictured Ian. So nice. :)


message 37: by Lyndsey (new)

Lyndsey Awwww. Yay! I'm so glad. I laughed the first time I read the description of him and I immediately pictured Gollum for some reason. I have a strange imagination, lol.


message 38: by Emily (new)

Emily AAAH, the Gollum comparison made me laugh until I had tears in my eyes. THANK YOU. Great review.


message 39: by Soo (new)

Soo =) Just wanted to say I skimmed your review of the book & it made me chortle. The first descriptions of Four/Tobias were okay. I had the impression of impressive blue eyes & hot geek. Though the turning down of lips & all that made me think he frowns a lot. Slender fingers are attractive because that makes me think of expressive, strong musician/artist hands.

I did think about Hunger Games when I read this book but I thought of Battle Royale when I initially read Hunger Games. HG is NOT BR. HG & D are similar but also, in the end, not the same. I like Divergent more than HG.


message 40: by Hweeps (new)

Hweeps I really like your review!

"I have to say that, although the world itself doesn't make much sense, since when does any oppressive society make SENSE? At least to those of us who have common sense. Horrible and ridiculous things happen all the time and there have been many ages of oppression throughout history. None of them make a hell of a lot of sense. Slavery? The holocaust? Genocide? Nope, I don't get it. But that doesn't mean it can't and won't happen.

If you are one for analyzing the politics and economics of the world you are reading about, then this one may fall short for you. If you are someone who can easily suspend your disbelief in favor of action and new experiences, then you just might love this. Me? Well, I fall somewhere in between, but more toward loving it."

I completely COMPLETELY agree! :D

And ooooh, that's a pretty thought!! That Peter might have been a Divergent and was acting as a jerk.. Still, he was a serious jerk, and I'm kinda glad he isn't Divergent. :)


message 41: by Lyndsey (new)

Lyndsey Thanks, HP! Mostly, I thought the Peter thing would have been an intriguing twist. I LOVE when unexpected things happen and that would certainly be unexpected.


message 42: by Hweeps (new)

Hweeps Lyndsey wrote: "Thanks, HP! Mostly, I thought the Peter thing would have been an intriguing twist. I LOVE when unexpected things happen and that would certainly be unexpected."

Yes, I know what you mean! Well, perhaps we'll see more of Peter, though.. Now that Tris's loved ones are dead and her enemies are travelling with her. Serious sad fact


message 43: by Jules:) (new)

Jules:) I just have to say OMG I'LL BAKE YOU PIES IS LIKE THE BEST THING EVER. :P


message 44: by Sicarius (new)

Sicarius Noctis Automatic +1 for including Gollum. Yessssssss....


message 45: by Tom (new)

Tom Whitfield HAHAHAHA That was great....


message 46: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie It's kinda funny the two people representing Tris and Four on your blog post are starring in a movie together (as love interests) in The Host :)


message 47: by ❀Andrea❤ (new)

❀Andrea❤ LOL! That was so funny:D


message 48: by Hannah (new)

Hannah D. most entertaining review i have ever laid my eyes on:D


message 49: by Ronyell (new)

Ronyell Awesome review Lyndsey!! I really enjoyed this book too!


message 50: by FoxyBrain (new)

FoxyBrain Aw... Luke!


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