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Anna~nose in book with a jealous Husband~ let me know how this one goes!

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Eve Davids Lmao @ all the bookshelves this fell into. I suppose now you see why it's a three star. It could have been better no doubt.

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Eve Davids Unfortunately, I never really connected with Tris. I suppose its because I didnt really buy the horrors of being factionless so her motives didnt move me.
I dont think the world building will improve since that's what people usually use the first book for. I will probably read the other books in the series too, but I wont be standing in line for them.

Have you heard about Pure by Julianna Baggott? That has taken Divergent's place in my heart. I'm psyched for it.

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Eve Davids Yes, Roth is indeed a christian. And perhaps I am biased but that's why I gave this book three stars and didnt bash it. Let me rephrase, I like that she added christian values but it didnt feel preachy like she was shoving it down our throats. Also, its really hard not to like her and have a sense of pride that someone so young is accomplishing so much when you read her block.

The thing I hated the most about this book where the trails and how Tris became a bad ass within weeks. (With Katniss, we knew she's been doing that for several years before the story starts.)
It felt too create the action pumping of THG (and of course I realize this could be completely coincidental.) When the big guy died, I also really hated listening to Tris's thoughts. They just seemed very callous to me.
I keep saying I dont want to criticize this, but every time I speak, I do. I think deep down there were some things that really irritated me about this book because of the high expectations I had for it. Let me remind you, when the book was sold they said it was THG meet Matrix! Close your eyes and try to imagine what a thrill ride that promises ... And so I went into slut mode to nab an ARC, and it was like really? What on earth did the Matrix have to do with this now?

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Eve Davids I know criticism isnt a bad thing, but sometimes I feel bad when I criticize a novel that wasnt too bad itself because I know its insanely hard to write one.
But you are right.

Wow, I didnt put that matrix thing together I guess. The truth is the simulations in Divergent were so meh to me, my brain didnt even take it to the level of the Matrix. At least now I see where her agent was going I guess.

If THG games does really well, I bet you Summit wanting to cash on quick, will turn this into a movie.
Regarding THG movies, I think its a little dangerous that the budget is $60 mil, since its always going to be compared in terms of profit to Twilight which was like $20 mil. Do you think the movies will be as successful as Twilight?

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Caitlin No. Well, I would want them to be, but I honestly don't think so. Summit has a track record with...okay...not fabulous films. I can only think of one, The Hurt Locker which actually won best picture.(It's the anomy out of all Summit films actually) But I cant think of any other successful, well produced movies that came out of Summit. Sorry but Twilight doesn't count in my books.

And if it comes out after THG then it might be taken less seriously. It would look like a rip off of the THG movies.

But this is all speculation and I could be totally wrong. It could end up amazing and the biggest franchise since Harry Potter. :D

message 7: by Eve (last edited Apr 26, 2011 09:13PM) (new)

Eve Davids Jillian and Caitlin, you both make good points.

I dont know if THG will more successful than Twilight considering, that Twihards probably went to see that movie at least ten times in a month just to get their Robert Pattinson thing on.

The director will have to come with his A game big time to make a compelling pg 13 movie out of THG. In my opinion, that might really limit things. And none of the male interest in THG are exactly swoon worthy, although the guy cast as Peeta has potential.

I suppose what I am trying to say is given Summit's record, and other factors, I dont have too much hope that the director will turn THG into Oscar worthy material.
The other angle which might play the movie to teens (Twihards), that is True luf, and really hot male interests, are also not going for this movie.
Because while it might be interesting to read about kids put in Arena to kill themselves, how interesting will this be to watch when we have cheap knock off movies showing us kids in more menacing scenarios?
Also the characters they have cast, dont exactly look like kids, which takes away some of the good shock value and emotional attachment the book makes one feel.
Anyway, its all thoughts. All we know, the director will turn out Oscar Worthy material.

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Steph Sinclair You are correct Jillian. Lionsgate has THG. And I do think it will be pretty successful. I believe THG will appeal to a broader audience than Twilight.

message 9: by Caitlin (last edited Apr 26, 2011 10:00PM) (new)

Caitlin Oh! I thought we were talking about Divergent in movie form, not THG. My bad. I kinda went off on a tangent before. Heh.

I actually believe THG will be successful. Gary Ross has proven to create some great films and I have faith in him. As for the Box office, well, it's supposed to be released in March, spring break time. Perfect timing. About the boy/girl factor, I think it will attract to both. The main character is a girl and if they chose to hint at a romance in the previews (which I'm sure they will) that may help the count increase. Boys, well, give them action and they'll be drawn in.

You're right about the guarantee of millions. I mean, THG movie news and rumors is all over the place. The industry is buzzing with it so they're going to really throw it into the media and project THG to the public as soon as they can.

So to answer the "More popular than Twilight" question, yea. THG should attract more people just because of the plot and familiar faces and names. Twilight didn't have any of that. Only it's fans and advertisement. When it did hit theaters the reaction from the fans interested the general public and they were left to be the judge. HUnger games on the other hand, just has a broader appeal. It's not all romance nor is it plain killing. Plus, the series as a whole is about a revolution. THG really fits well on the big screen and usually if it fits well, it does well.

But that doesn't always happen.

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Steph Sinclair Wait...Divergent has been optioned by Summit?

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Caitlin Yea. Veronica Roth (that's her name right?) posted a blog about it.

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Eve Davids Jillian, sorry you are so right about that.

Caitlin, I have to disagree with you on the Twilight thing, in that Twilight had a way bigger fan base and had probably sold ten times THG currently before that ridiculous movie came out.

Guys, without a doubt it will make money! Come on! If I am Number Four can make money then certainly THG will!
It's the Twilight comparisons thing per box office that i know THG will suffer from. That is, people will keep comparing it to Twilight. Which I believe was that successful because Twihards each saw the movie at least ten times.
Okay, I will stop hating on twihards.

message 13: by Steph (last edited Apr 26, 2011 10:16PM) (new)

Steph Sinclair Wow. The book hasn't even officially released and it's already been optioned.

I had never heard of Twilight before the movies came out. I believe Twilight became ridiculously popular *after* the movie. It was given an awful budget. Some of the actors wore their own personal clothes in the movie. Not that doing so is a bad thing. But it just goes to show you how little money they had.

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Caitlin Yea, but THG fan base is growing day by day. By next year, it will be twice it's size (Okay maybe I'm exaggerating, but a girl can dream, right?). Plus, unlike Twilight, THG actually has freakin' Hollywood on it's side. Twilight didn't have the budget, director, actors and support THG has.

Hell, I'll go see it fuckin' ten times if I have to. Take that you damn twihards.

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Steph Sinclair Caitlin wrote: "Yea, but THG fan base is growing day by day. By next year, it will be twice it's size (Okay maybe I'm exaggerating, but a girl can dream, right?). Plus, unlike Twilight, THG actually has freakin' H..."


When they started shooting New Moon, the cast was overwhelmed by all of the twihards that stalked the sets. They said no one stalked the Twilight set.

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Eve Davids Stephanie wrote: "Caitlin wrote: "Yea, but THG fan base is growing day by day. By next year, it will be twice it's size (Okay maybe I'm exaggerating, but a girl can dream, right?). Plus, unlike Twilight, THG actuall..."

Stephanie, this is actually wrong. I know that for a fact because Catherine Harwicke as well as both the cast members talked about how people stalked them in Twilight but it was more peaceful, nothing crazy as it got for New Moon and the other rubbish.

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Eve Davids Caitlin wrote: "Yea, but THG fan base is growing day by day. By next year, it will be twice it's size (Okay maybe I'm exaggerating, but a girl can dream, right?). Plus, unlike Twilight, THG actually has freakin' H..."

I also think the movie will escalate the books too. Unfortunately the romantic in me, wishes they play up the romantic angle up a bit too. *fangirl*

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Eve Davids Jillian -always aspiring- wrote: "Everything is better with romance, I always say. :)"

I have a feeling S.C might not be a romance fangirl though seeing the way she went hardcore in Mockingjay. Hehe.

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Steph Sinclair TheDuchess wrote: "Stephanie wrote: "Caitlin wrote: "Yea, but THG fan base is growing day by day. By next year, it will be twice it's size (Okay maybe I'm exaggerating, but a girl can dream, right?). Plus, unlike Twi..."

Oh, my mistake!

Erica (daydreamer) Fantastic review Jillian, as always :)

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Caitlin Just what I was anticipating from this book. A mixed bag.

As always, great review.

 Kendall [Kenny] You got it done. :D Yay!

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Milly Awesome review Jillian!

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Anthi Really nice and interesting review Jillian and you are right, dystopian is the new vampire.

April*procrastinator and proud* D: JILLIAN! Nooo! only 3 stars! *pulls out her shotgun*

Cassi aka Snow White Haggard Great review. I've heard some mixed opinions but you summarized why so very well.

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Tatiana Jillian, I believe many people would reduce the star rating of this book if they ever reread it. The initial attraction of this book was in its frantic pace, but if you read it the second time, all the flaws get illuminated, especially the ones related to world-building.

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javiruchi Hear, hear! Very critical...

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Ronyell Awesome review Jillian! I agree that there were some things in this book that were a bit confusing to get through.

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Kat "Is it really a true dystopia, the kind that makes us fear for our own world because we see the problems and warnings present in our own time and place? Or just an action thriller with dystopian elements?"

YES. THIS. YES YES YES. I tried to write something to this effect in my review, but I couldn't quite get the wording. I was looking forward to sinking into a fun YA dystopian world, and--for me--it completely failed in that respect.

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Derrick I totally understand where you're coming from.

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Amber It's got nothing to do with the book (which I didn't like, by the way, due to the unlikable protagonist and shoddy world-building) but I have to say that I LOVE your profile picture. I love Frozen, and I love Anna, and let's face it: the face she's making in the photo is adorable. :)
Oh, and great review, by the way.

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Polly Lodato I love Frozen

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Ezreal Nice book!!!

Gilliansreadingnook//J. Finley Anytime a book is over-hyped, I tend to shy away. I'm not big into Dystopian stories anyway. I like 1984, but that's about it. What I COULD do is listen on youtube if I happen to find it (audiobook) and that might give me a better idea of whether I could read it as a before bed book.

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