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  <default_description>Complete interlinked edition complemented by author biography and analysis. &quot;If The Prince resembles a guidebook based primarily on empirical observations, Machiavelli wrote the Discourses as a commentary on Livy's work on Roman history. However, both books include empirical observations and historical generalizations. Machiavelli himself does not make a sharp distinction between the two methods of inquiry, as he thinks that all ages are fundamentally similar. He thinks we can use both methods to teach ourselves the unchanging laws of the political universe. When we have understood these laws, we can use our understanding in political life to achieve our goals. &lt;BR&gt;The book is strictly speaking three books in one. In Book I Machiavelli focuses on the internal structure of the republic. Book II is about matters of warfare. Book III is perhaps most similar to the teachings of The Prince, as it concerns individual leadership. The three books combined provide guidance to those trying to establish or reform a republic.&quot; - Excerpted from Discourses on Livy on Wikipedia.  &lt;P&gt;BOOK I &lt;BR&gt;PREFACE &lt;BR&gt;I. Of the Beginnings of Cities in general, and in particular of that of Rome. &lt;BR&gt;II. Of the various kinds of Government; and to which of them the Roman Commonwealth belonged &lt;BR&gt;III. Of the Accidents which led in Rome to the creation of Tribunes of the People; whereby the Republic was made more perfect &lt;BR&gt;IV. That the Dissensions between the Senate and Commons of Rome, made Rome free and powerful &lt;BR&gt;V. Whether the Guardianship of public Freedom is safer in the hands of the Commons or of the Nobles; and whether those who seek to acquire Power or they who seek to maintain it are the greater cause of Commotions. &lt;BR&gt;VI. Whether it was possible in Rome to contrive such a Government as would have composed the Differences between the Commons and the Senate. &lt;BR&gt;VII. That to preserve Liberty in a State there must exist the Right to accuse. &lt;BR&gt;VIII. That Calumny is as hurtful in a Commonwealth as the power to accuse is useful. &lt;BR&gt;IX. That to give new Institutions to a Commonwealth, or to reconstruct old Institutions on an entirely new basis, must be the work of one Man &lt;BR&gt;X. That in proportion as the Founder of a Kingdom or Commonwealth merits Praise, he who founds a Tyranny deserves Blame. &lt;BR&gt;XI. Of the Religion of the Romans. &lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;...&lt;/P&gt;</default_description>
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      <name><![CDATA[Niccolò Machiavelli]]></name>
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    <body><![CDATA[Considering the social and cultural landscape of the contemporary West, one cannot help but wonder whether we can pull out of our downward slide, and what are the odds of doing so.<br/><br/>An interesting analysis of this issue is provided by Machiavelli, in his &quot;Discourses&quot; (1517). In thi...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/47165250">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Yes, you had to read The Prince, because your professor had to fit something of Machiavelli's into the class, and so she chose the shortest of his works to keep the students bitching to a minimum.  The Prince represents a small subset of Machiavelli's concept of government.  The recommendations from...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/6317819">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[This book, though of course not as highly renowned as The Prince, arguably holds much more utility for assessing the world of Western politics in this day and age. Written in a semi-historical manner, it contains lessons of the preferred methods of governance that have no doubt influenced the logic ...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/57629759">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Buku untuk para penguasa, pemimpin, yang mesti memilih antara ditakuti <br/>atau dicintai...sebab tak ada jalan untuk memilih keduanya. ngerilah ini buku lengkap dengan susunan aturan kewarganegaraan, aturan agama, aturan pemerintahan, juga aturan dalam menyusun perang. herannya, padahal Machiavell...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/38728586">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[The Discourses is Machiavelli's longest and most detailed work of political philosophy. It's a very complex book, but even a superficial reading will reveal a great deal.<br/><br/>This is Harvey Mansfield's translation, with a lengthy preface, pointing out a number of interesting aspects, and poin...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/71382397">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Not as well known or as &quot;fun&quot; as <em>The Prince</em>. <em>Discourses on Livy</em> is in large measure I more important work. As Mansfield and Tarcov point out it in their excellent Introduction, the <em>Discourses</em> is the founding document of modern republicanism.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[If you want to know what he REALLY, really thought, check  it out.  Interesting to note the changes from before his years of torture.  Yes, he was tortured for his politics.   Fuck, this dude's smart.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[An effective, but tedious, way to get to know Machiavelli's contribution to the development of western thought.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[&quot;All I need to know about Government I learned from Machiavelli.&quot;]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[I have but one thing to say... &quot;MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!&quot;]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[I brought this book because I'd read the Prince and liked it. However, having read authors who have a better grasp of the Ancient world than Machiavelli has drawbacks. Machiavelli often resorts to crude or misleading generalisations about an event or events in Ancient history in order to draw an ana...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/14347526">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Wonderfully readable, just like the Prince. After the disorientation of the last eight years, I wanted to get back in touch with the basic documents that this country was founded on. When I learned that the Discourses were the basis of the constitution (through Rousseau, et al) I picked it up. Very ...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/51936374">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[In contrast with The Prince, this is an analysis of republics, rather than principalities. Although Machiavelli advocates political necessity and often strong, compulsive leadership in the interest of the state, his ultimate aim in The Discourses appears to advocate the superior and more moral polit...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/14910839">more...</a>]]></body>
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  <recommended_for><![CDATA[Those Who are Willing to know a lot regarding Power Politics!]]></recommended_for>
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    <body><![CDATA[You will know how to flex your self between being Political Idealist and Political Realist. Thus, what was being happening in clasical era could be an assumption of our Global real Plight, especially in both economic and political milieu in my Philippines!]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Mavchiavelli's Discourses on the first 10 books of Livy's History of Rome isn't as widely read as The Prince, but it should be.  In this book he discusses republics, and what is needed to allow one to exist, and keep it in existence.  Highly recommended.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[A must read for anyone interested in the human condition and political theory.  While the subject matter may seem a bit obtuse, it contains just about every relevant truth about social life and politics.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[A fascinating view on republicanism and liberties from a 16th century perspective.  Machiavelli's style is meandering, but there are enough gems in his writing to make the read more than worth it.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Discourses on First ten books of Livy. Pretty awesome - signals  the death knell of the Ultramontane feudal system.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Yes, Machiavelli wrote more than just the Prince :p Good read, especially if you've already read Livy's works.]]></body>
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