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The Butlerian Jihad (Legends of Dune #1)
Frank Herbert's Dune series is one of the great creations of imaginative literature, science fiction's answer to The Lord of the Rings.
Decades after Herbert's original novels, the Dune saga was continued by Frank Herbert's son, Brian Herbert, in collaboration with Kevin J. Anderson. Working from Frank Herbert's own notes, the acclaimed authors reveal the chapter of the Dun...more
Decades after Herbert's original novels, the Dune saga was continued by Frank Herbert's son, Brian Herbert, in collaboration with Kevin J. Anderson. Working from Frank Herbert's own notes, the acclaimed authors reveal the chapter of the Dun...more
Paperback, 684 pages
Published
September 15th 2003
by Tor Books
(first published January 1st 2002)
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Apr 09, 2013
Peter
rated it
1 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
anyone lacking a cerebral cortex
Shelves:
library,
science-fiction
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The seven dollars I spent for this book would have been better used buying a cup of battery acid to pour into my eyes.
More detailed ranting here.
More detailed ranting here.
Long, long from now in a galaxy too close for comfort, humanity (fondly called "feral humans" by the thinking machines) is struggling for existence. Besieged as they are, the humans themselves are of course not entirely blameless and many of them have not discovered the concept of "human rights" and "equality."
Bravery, treachery, deceit, galactic battles - it's all there - lots of fun. Seen through the long glass of our future prospects, based on where we are now, the concepts are believable.
It...more
Bravery, treachery, deceit, galactic battles - it's all there - lots of fun. Seen through the long glass of our future prospects, based on where we are now, the concepts are believable.
It...more
An abomination that should never have been written - which is true of all that Herbert Jnr and Anderson have contributed to the Dune series. Putting aside the pedestrian writing, the authors have failed entirely to capture the complexity of Frank Herbert's universe, characters and ideas. They seem incapable of subtlety. Nothing is implied. Everything is stated. They do tell a story but with none of the sophistication of the original.
Life is far too short to be wasted reading this money-spinning...more
Life is far too short to be wasted reading this money-spinning...more
OK, so after the critical phenom success of Herbert & Anderson's first DUNE prequel trilogy...they decide to cash in their chips and do another one. Jesus wept. This series chronicles the Butlerian Jihad hinted at in Frank Herbert's original books, the war by man to cast of the shackles put on them by thinking machines. However...you don't really get an appreciation for humanity's suffering here. There's plenty of free humans living on Salusa Secundus even though Omnius and his machine horde...more
Another review written back in 2006:
My natural inclination is to assume that anything that's a spin-off from an author's original work is going to inevitably be inferior to the original, no matter what. (Case in point, any books/stories based off of Tolkien's notes after his death.) They just lack the voice and scope of the original. So normally, I wouldn't have even considered picking up a book based off of Frank Herbert's original Dune series, even if it was written by his own flesh and blood,...more
My natural inclination is to assume that anything that's a spin-off from an author's original work is going to inevitably be inferior to the original, no matter what. (Case in point, any books/stories based off of Tolkien's notes after his death.) They just lack the voice and scope of the original. So normally, I wouldn't have even considered picking up a book based off of Frank Herbert's original Dune series, even if it was written by his own flesh and blood,...more
Oct 11, 2007
Exparrot
rated it
3 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
anyone who loves Dune... at least the original
To be fair Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson do an okay job in continuing with Frank Herbert's Dune legacy. When I mean okay, I mean sure the book doesn't have the same philosophical flow and continuity, it also lacks finesse and would appeal to the younger generation X crowd who's more action and less thought BUT again, if you've been aching to know history behind Dune, then read this book. It gives the origins of the Bene Gesserit, the reason behind the kanly between House Atreides and Harko...more
Honestly, I couldn't get very far in this book. None of the Brian Herbert/Kevin Anderson collaborations are very good, but this one is staggeringly, mind-blowingly awful. It reads like super-shitty fan-fiction, except than fan fic usually takes a moment to remember what universe it is set in. It's unbelievable that even two writers could churn out over 600 pages of this utterly pointless garbage - and it's only the beginning of a three-volume story arc! Holy cow. Money actually changed hands for...more
(Originally posted on Otherwhere Gazette)
It is said that there are two types of Dune fans: those who like only the original books by Frank Herbert, and those who also enjoy the expanded universe his son Brian Herbert created. I used to think I was at least somewhat in the first camp, because while I enjoyed the original Dune quite a bit, the sequels weren’t among my favorites. However, Brian Herbert’s Dune: The Butlerian Jihad, is changing my mind. The Butlerian Jihad tells the story of the figh...more
It is said that there are two types of Dune fans: those who like only the original books by Frank Herbert, and those who also enjoy the expanded universe his son Brian Herbert created. I used to think I was at least somewhat in the first camp, because while I enjoyed the original Dune quite a bit, the sequels weren’t among my favorites. However, Brian Herbert’s Dune: The Butlerian Jihad, is changing my mind. The Butlerian Jihad tells the story of the figh...more
Based on Frank Herbert's exploration of messianic power and the power of per-determination vs despotic altruism, "the Butlerian Jihad" is an entertaining if not masterful collection of chapters.
It does lay down the foundation of the of the Dune universe, but it lacks the rigorous cohesion and cultural identity of the novels written by Frank Herbert.
The characters and the action seem separated as if the co-authors either strictly followed notes marked character development or story action and ra...more
It does lay down the foundation of the of the Dune universe, but it lacks the rigorous cohesion and cultural identity of the novels written by Frank Herbert.
The characters and the action seem separated as if the co-authors either strictly followed notes marked character development or story action and ra...more
True fans of the science fiction genre usually place Frank Herbert's "Dune" among their Top 10 Best SF Novels Ever Written, and for good reason. Herbert created a fully-realized universe,in much the same way that J.R.R. Tolkein did in his "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. Herbert's vision included a past, present, and future for his fascinating desert planet called Arrakis, aka Dune. He was able to extend his Dune series into five sequels published in his lifetme. Unfortunately, Herbert never complet...more
When I was young and foolish, I was as taken with Frank Herbert’s Dune at the rest of the world, but I found myself significantly less enchanted with his sequels. I subsequently became aware that his son and another writer were continuing the series, but I stuck my nose in one of the books at a book store and decided I was not interested. Last summer, however, I purchased one of them at a library book sale, only to discover that the very thick book I had purchased was in fact the sequel to a boo...more
The Legends of Dune series goes back to the time when thinking machines were a common part of life and tells the tale of woe that lead to the edict "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind". The series consists of:-
The Butlerian Jihad
The Machine Crusade
The Battle of Corrin
Plot ***Spoilers***
The Butlerian Jihad
The Butlerian Jihad introduces a generation of characters whose families will later become the most significant in the universe: the Atreides, the Corrinos and the H...more
The Butlerian Jihad
The Machine Crusade
The Battle of Corrin
Plot ***Spoilers***
The Butlerian Jihad
The Butlerian Jihad introduces a generation of characters whose families will later become the most significant in the universe: the Atreides, the Corrinos and the H...more
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Frank Herbert introduced us to the Dune Universe and I can say I have always been a loyal fan.
Although at some point, a a young reader in high school it all went over my head. I did play the lovely games from Westwood studios though.
However I remember that great summer when I read the Butlerian Jihad. I must have only been 17.
Somehow Brian Herbert
s writing was easier to understand and I could comprehend it a little better.
What a story, every second I was consumed by this book. It was science fi...more
Although at some point, a a young reader in high school it all went over my head. I did play the lovely games from Westwood studios though.
However I remember that great summer when I read the Butlerian Jihad. I must have only been 17.
Somehow Brian Herbert
s writing was easier to understand and I could comprehend it a little better.
What a story, every second I was consumed by this book. It was science fi...more
Jun 11, 2011
Jimmy
rated it
5 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Dune Fans & Science Fiction Fans
Shelves:
science-fiction
Perhaps the best book of the Legends of Dune trilogy. It was my favorite of the three novels. ‘The Butlerian Jihad’ sets up the story of how Arrakis will eventually become the center of the universe. It shows us the beginnings of the Sisterhood prior to the Dune Chronicles. One of my favorite characters by far of the entire trilogy Norma Cenva’s spectacular contribution to humanity with the gift of space folding technology is told in length. Without introduction, (perhaps Kevin J. Anderson &...more
*Same review for the Dune Universe*
GREAT books! VERY time consuming! Worth the time!
Ok here is the deal. If your not sure about starting a series this big, here is what I would do.
1. -- Read the 1st one by Frank Herbert "Dune" if you like it...
2. -- Read the "Legends Of Dune" series. Its 3 books written by Frank's son Brian and a author I really like by the name of Keven J. Anderson. Its a prequel that is so far in the past that it doesn't spoil the Original Dune series in any way, and you could...more
GREAT books! VERY time consuming! Worth the time!
Ok here is the deal. If your not sure about starting a series this big, here is what I would do.
1. -- Read the 1st one by Frank Herbert "Dune" if you like it...
2. -- Read the "Legends Of Dune" series. Its 3 books written by Frank's son Brian and a author I really like by the name of Keven J. Anderson. Its a prequel that is so far in the past that it doesn't spoil the Original Dune series in any way, and you could...more
Just Remember: It's NOT Dune
This book is such a guilty pleasure.
Naturally it lacks the depth, sophistication, poetry, philosophy, genius, etc., etc., of DUNE. But still it manages to provide something else quite unexpected:
Good old fashioned Space Opera FUN!
Just overlook the (mostly) 2-dimensional characters and you'll find yourself immersed in a huge, sprawling, edge-of-your-seat sci-fi adventure like the classic serial adventures of old.
Those old serials were well before my time, but this...more
This book is such a guilty pleasure.
Naturally it lacks the depth, sophistication, poetry, philosophy, genius, etc., etc., of DUNE. But still it manages to provide something else quite unexpected:
Good old fashioned Space Opera FUN!
Just overlook the (mostly) 2-dimensional characters and you'll find yourself immersed in a huge, sprawling, edge-of-your-seat sci-fi adventure like the classic serial adventures of old.
Those old serials were well before my time, but this...more
When I read "Dune" as a teen, I fell in love with the worlds and the characters so masterfully created by Frank Herbert. The book was magical and remained with me for many years. I have never read any of the sequels because I thought it was a masterpiece in itself and needed nothing further.
When coming across this book, I thought it might be interesting to find out a bit of the history behind one Dune Sigh. I won't say I'm completely disappointed or that the book was not worth reading, but it w...more
When coming across this book, I thought it might be interesting to find out a bit of the history behind one Dune Sigh. I won't say I'm completely disappointed or that the book was not worth reading, but it w...more
This book almost got a two star rating out of me, but I had to remind myself that it was my fault for walking into it with the expectation that Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson would attempt to replicate Frank Herbert's "voice" from the first Dune books, or that Brian Herbert (who is Frank Herbert's son) would have some latent story-telling ability that paid homage to his father. This is obviously not the case. Frank Herbert had a seemingly unique way with language and the ability to write hi...more
The rating here is actually 3.5. I wish goodreads would allow half stars. Anyway, let's get started.
This is the Dune universe. This is not Frank Herbert. Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson's writing style just does not hold up when compared to Brian's father. Unfortunately, he didn't receive his father's gift for subtlety and nuance from the gene pool. Where his father's Dune was a cerebral experience exploring vast themes of ecology, religion, addiction, and power, Brian's Dune is basically just...more
This is the Dune universe. This is not Frank Herbert. Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson's writing style just does not hold up when compared to Brian's father. Unfortunately, he didn't receive his father's gift for subtlety and nuance from the gene pool. Where his father's Dune was a cerebral experience exploring vast themes of ecology, religion, addiction, and power, Brian's Dune is basically just...more
*NOTE: This review concerns the entire prequel series, not this book alone*
The Legnds of Dune series is...OK.
The writing itself is actually quite good - clean and clear compared to Herberts originals (particularly his later work), but at the same time I was left feeling a little unsatisfied about the story itself.
While several individual scenes or aspects of the story do stick in your mind, I just found myself not really feeling much for the characters, nor learning as about the earlier Dune un...more
The Legnds of Dune series is...OK.
The writing itself is actually quite good - clean and clear compared to Herberts originals (particularly his later work), but at the same time I was left feeling a little unsatisfied about the story itself.
While several individual scenes or aspects of the story do stick in your mind, I just found myself not really feeling much for the characters, nor learning as about the earlier Dune un...more
First thing that comes to mind: Space Opera.
At its' finest. After the first couple of chapters I went looking for a copyright date - this was simply too reminiscent of Star Wars or Battlestar Galactica.
But the plot develops well enough, though the characters are sometimes a bit trite (ahem - sorry Serena is simply too much)..
Next point is while Dune (the original and first novel) could and does stand on its own, this is obviously the first of a "trilogy"/"cycle"/"series" whatever.. I personally...more
At its' finest. After the first couple of chapters I went looking for a copyright date - this was simply too reminiscent of Star Wars or Battlestar Galactica.
But the plot develops well enough, though the characters are sometimes a bit trite (ahem - sorry Serena is simply too much)..
Next point is while Dune (the original and first novel) could and does stand on its own, this is obviously the first of a "trilogy"/"cycle"/"series" whatever.. I personally...more
Jun 11, 2011
Jimmy
rated it
5 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Dune Fans & Science Fiction Fans
Shelves:
ebook,
science-fiction
Perhaps the best book of the Legends of Dune trilogy. It was my favorite of the three novels. ‘The Butlerian Jihad’ sets up the story of how Arrakis will eventually become the center of the universe. It shows us the beginnings of the Sisterhood prior to the Dune Chronicles. One of my favorite characters by far of the entire trilogy Norma Cenva’s spectacular contribution to humanity with the gift of space folding technology is told in length. Without introduction, (perhaps Kevin J. Anderson &...more
Dune The Butlerian Jihad is a book of missed chances but also interesting back story to the world of Dune. The characters aren't very detailed and the plot is easily predicted. In fact the only reason I would recommend it to anyone was if they really had a thing for knowing the entire story of the lore of Dune and also if they had a lot of time to kill. The book is an easy beach read and takes little to no thought to understand unlike the behemoth sized original Dune books. The story starts off...more
Out of all the McDune books that Brian and Kevin wrote, I found the Butlerian Jihad trilogy to be the most enjoyable out of them all. However, the same writing problems abound in all of the books, regardless of what it's about - useless detail, flat characters, and clunky writing in some places.
Serena Butler was such a Mary Sue that it was not even funny. Beautiful, purple eyes, graceful, sweet, etc. I just couldn't stand her. I found the parts with the Titans more interesting, to be honest. Ove...more
Serena Butler was such a Mary Sue that it was not even funny. Beautiful, purple eyes, graceful, sweet, etc. I just couldn't stand her. I found the parts with the Titans more interesting, to be honest. Ove...more
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