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Eutopia: A Novel of Terrible Optimism
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David Nickle (Goodreads Author)
The year is 1911. In Cold Spring Harbour, New York, the newly formed Eugenics Records Office is sending its agents to catalogue the infirm, the insane, and the criminal - with an eye to a cull, for the betterment of all. Near Cracked Wheel, Montana, a terrible illness leaves Jason Thistledown an orphan, stranded in his dead mother's cabin until the spring thaw shows him th...more
Paperback, 320 pages
Published
May 3rd 2011
by Chizine Publications
(first published April 14th 2011)
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like deliverance...with monsters!
CZP is three for three!!
i love this book. i always ask people to recommend me some good horror books because i just can't get scared by books, and i want to feel that lovely shivery feeling of "what's that noise!!??" "what is that shadow doing?? ahhhhhh!!" and while it's true i slept fine after reading this - i wasn't cowering in my bed with the blankets pulled up over my face for protection, there were several scenes where i felt my skin crawling, and i actually...more
First published in April 2011 by ChiZine Publications, David Nickle’s novel of eerie horror entitled ‘Eutopia’ sets down a firm and establishing platform for the Canadian author to show the world his dark and imaginative capabilities.
DLS Synopsis:
Set in the bygone year of 1911, Jason Thistledown lays down his deceased mother in their nearby barn, leaving the seventeen-year-old alone in the world once and for all. With spring on its way and the unforgiving snow finally thawing, Jason sets his min...more
DLS Synopsis:
Set in the bygone year of 1911, Jason Thistledown lays down his deceased mother in their nearby barn, leaving the seventeen-year-old alone in the world once and for all. With spring on its way and the unforgiving snow finally thawing, Jason sets his min...more
So this book is Karen's staff rec. and I think on her staff rec thingy she described it as "deliverance with monsters", but I had it before then when what stuck out from her review was plague, hill people, and eugenics. So when I started reading this and it as clearly about monsters I was more than a little confused. When David asked me yesterday what I was reading, I told him something about monsters, he responded "the drug addict aliens" and of course I had to say no that was another book. Whi...more
I’m not the best judge of horror, but I’ve read Lovecraft, Poe, King, and good writing is good writing. Good writing carries over to a book regardless of genre. And there’s plenty of good writing in David Nickle’s “Eutopia.”
“Eutopia” is set in the early 20th century and explores the world of American utopian movements, and the almost instantly corruptible science of Eugenics, how easily our desires for a utopian society can be exploited and corrupted no matter how idealistic the original intent....more
“Eutopia” is set in the early 20th century and explores the world of American utopian movements, and the almost instantly corruptible science of Eugenics, how easily our desires for a utopian society can be exploited and corrupted no matter how idealistic the original intent....more
(Mon compte-rendu en français plus bas.)
I was so deeply entranced with this story that I decided to begin and finish eight other books, so as to keep my buzz going.
The universe, characters, and especially Dave Nickle's voice, are as compelling as the creatures haunting this remote mountains. More rave later, because I am now working on my two next novels!
****** (two months later, here comes the review...)*********
Beware of an utopia in construction!
Eutopia was so poignant, the universe so comp...more
I was so deeply entranced with this story that I decided to begin and finish eight other books, so as to keep my buzz going.
The universe, characters, and especially Dave Nickle's voice, are as compelling as the creatures haunting this remote mountains. More rave later, because I am now working on my two next novels!
****** (two months later, here comes the review...)*********
Beware of an utopia in construction!
Eutopia was so poignant, the universe so comp...more
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So, David Nickle wrote a set of short stories called Monstrous Affections, which are chilly and brilliant and disturbingly rendered. So when I saw Eutopia, I picked it up. Didn't have to think twice about it.
Eutopia is... well, it's set in 1911, in a small town in Idaho, with a cast of characters and only a couple of different locations. There's Andrew Waggoner, a black doctor (and no-one ever lets him forget about it), the Harpers, the family that bought the sawmill and essentially co-opted the...more
Eutopia is... well, it's set in 1911, in a small town in Idaho, with a cast of characters and only a couple of different locations. There's Andrew Waggoner, a black doctor (and no-one ever lets him forget about it), the Harpers, the family that bought the sawmill and essentially co-opted the...more
Eutopia: A Novel of Terrible Optimism is horror in its purest form. It takes us to the darkest corners of the human mind, to our never-ending thrive for perfection, our feeble search for heaven on earth, and the many traps we encounter by doing so. It explores the parts of our mind that are searching for our own Utopia, and exposes this as our true weakness. With an accurate and beautifully displayed historical setting (early 20th century America) and interesting main characters, David Nickle of...more
Jul 16, 2011
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Subtitled "a novel of terrible optimism," Eutopia is a genre-bending novel with a title that promises a terrific blend of eugenics and utopia.1
Set in 1911, Eutopia follows two outsiders navigating the remote mill town of Eliada, Idaho.
Andrew Waggoner is the junior physician at the Eliada Hospital. While his credentials are impeccable, he's a Negro and his presence is tolerated only because it is mandated by the town's patron.
17-year-old Jason Thistledown has miraculously survived a plague that k...more
Set in 1911, Eutopia follows two outsiders navigating the remote mill town of Eliada, Idaho.
Andrew Waggoner is the junior physician at the Eliada Hospital. While his credentials are impeccable, he's a Negro and his presence is tolerated only because it is mandated by the town's patron.
17-year-old Jason Thistledown has miraculously survived a plague that k...more
Pros: excellent writing, courageous, tight ending/
Cons: the supernatural aspect isn't as scary as the historically accurate parts/
Eutopia takes place in the early 1900's when the eugenics movement was becoming popular with a certain type of people. Mrs Frost, an agent of the Eugenics Records Office finds her nephew is the sole survivor of a plague ravaged frontier town. She brings him with her to Eilada, Idaho, where an industrialist has started what he intends to be a utopic community./
But not...more
Cons: the supernatural aspect isn't as scary as the historically accurate parts/
Eutopia takes place in the early 1900's when the eugenics movement was becoming popular with a certain type of people. Mrs Frost, an agent of the Eugenics Records Office finds her nephew is the sole survivor of a plague ravaged frontier town. She brings him with her to Eilada, Idaho, where an industrialist has started what he intends to be a utopic community./
But not...more
Eutopia was the kind of book that got into my head, seriously, I've been dreaming about it.
The writing is very tight but descriptive and honest enough that it felt like I was diving into a Nickle's recreation of Idaho in 1911 every time that I picked it up. So much so that it was very jarring to return back to the "real" world when I had to put it down. Despite that, I read it in a little over two days and am still thinking about the historical and supernatural aspects.
There was enough descrip...more
The writing is very tight but descriptive and honest enough that it felt like I was diving into a Nickle's recreation of Idaho in 1911 every time that I picked it up. So much so that it was very jarring to return back to the "real" world when I had to put it down. Despite that, I read it in a little over two days and am still thinking about the historical and supernatural aspects.
There was enough descrip...more
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bleeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhrrrrrr....OK, that's the sound of three hundred pages of "willies" catching up with me. I'll be thinking about this one for a while yet. It's probably a compliment that I'm going to deeply and carefully consider each Chizine book I read from now on....Eesh.
The book arrived in the mail a few days ago; on the thumbnail, the picture looks pretty innocuous, just some old-fashioned girl like Nellie Olsen from Little House on the Prairie. In person, though...more
bleeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhrrrrrr....OK, that's the sound of three hundred pages of "willies" catching up with me. I'll be thinking about this one for a while yet. It's probably a compliment that I'm going to deeply and carefully consider each Chizine book I read from now on....Eesh.
The book arrived in the mail a few days ago; on the thumbnail, the picture looks pretty innocuous, just some old-fashioned girl like Nellie Olsen from Little House on the Prairie. In person, though...more
It's 1911. Underneath the idyllic surface of small town Eliada, eugenics is being studied and the town may have reasons for its seemingly perfect inhabitants. I first read about the American eugenics program in Jodi Picoult's Second Glance and it was that subject that made me want to read Eutopia. It's a part of American history that has been swept under the carpet, for understandable reasons. However, eugenics is used as a vehicle for the plot here and I didn't learn much more than I already kn...more
Ah, the good old days. Where people dropped N-bombs with impunity, where doctors gave out morphine for broken bones, and where the improvement of the human race was worked on by sterilizing the feeble-minded and the crippled.
The title of this book is a deliberate and disturbing pun, referencing a path to utopia via eugenics, the selective culling of the less desirable aspects of the human race. If only the best exist and breed, then only the best babies will be born. At least in theory. Eugenics...more
The title of this book is a deliberate and disturbing pun, referencing a path to utopia via eugenics, the selective culling of the less desirable aspects of the human race. If only the best exist and breed, then only the best babies will be born. At least in theory. Eugenics...more
I am not much for historical novels. While a delight for some, the intricacies of days past do not enhance literature for me. The interesting thing about this novel, set in 1911, is that the year has almost no bearing on the story itself. Lanterns are carried and medical equipment is nothing like the beeping plastic robots of today, but other than a tidbit here and there historical setting has no almost bearing on this book.
I didn’t dislike this book, but I couldn’t fall in love with it either....more
I didn’t dislike this book, but I couldn’t fall in love with it either....more
It was interesting to read this book immediately after reading The White Devil because the only thing that Justin Evan's novel does completely and absolutely right is the only beef I could conceivably have with what's wrong about Eutopia. I'm talking about the sense of place, the descriptives that place a reader in the era that a story is meant to take place. Ostensibly, Eutopia takes place in 1911, but nothing in the book really made me think "Oh yeah, 1911".
References to the Ku Kluz Klan? Yes...more
References to the Ku Kluz Klan? Yes...more
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Okay. So my review will list it as having taken me so very long to read it. But this is only because I listed it as "currently reading" the moment I got the book, even though I was reading three other books before I decided to start this one.
But the actual review:
Eutopia seems to promise an analysis and/or a discussion of the morality of "eugenics" and the forced "perfection" of the human race. However, it ends up being much more than that. By the end of the novel (if the cover hasn't already d...more
But the actual review:
Eutopia seems to promise an analysis and/or a discussion of the morality of "eugenics" and the forced "perfection" of the human race. However, it ends up being much more than that. By the end of the novel (if the cover hasn't already d...more
I wanted to like this book more than I did. That's not to say that I didn't enjoy it, but that it was not the package I thought I was going to get. The premise and the set-up gave me hope that this book would explore the very real horrors of eugenics and explore the perils that can come with utopian aspirations. And, in a very cursory sense, it did. It even tossed in some commentary on racism.
But all of that felt very superficial, as it gave way to an increasingly standard horror/monster novel....more
But all of that felt very superficial, as it gave way to an increasingly standard horror/monster novel....more
I think Eugenics, without any help or added extras, is a creepy subject to begin with; practice of it is a horror in itself. Human beings are usually influenced by their emotions and their belief systems, and I think Eugenics gives a human being too much capability, and excuse, to be a bigot. In my opinion, Eugenics can never be a practice without prejudice, and the idea of people in power practicing it is horrifying (Hitler is a great example of this). Eugenics is a great format to delve into i...more
I don't think this book completely lived up to its potential, but I still consider it to have been well worth the read. I found it imaginative and interesting. I loved the setting and the aesthetic, and I thought that the monsters were fascinating and terrifying. The writing was solid throughout and exquisite in some places. Where the book fell short, I thought, was in its storytelling. The book wanted to go in a couple of different directions simultaneously: there were elements of horror, suspe...more
Sometime in 1911, Jason Thistledown's mother dies. He keeps her body in a barn and does his best to survive the rest of the snowy winter on their isolated pig farm. As soon as spring approaches, an aunt he didn't know he had shows up and explains that his mother has died of a strange illness. Jason's Aunt Germaine then takes him away from his hometown (where he learns everyone has died of the same illness) and brings him to a mountainous area of Idaho known as Eliada.
Meanwhile, Eliada is having...more
Meanwhile, Eliada is having...more
I admit I picked this up because of the cover. And with the hope, based on the back copy, that it would be something approaching literary horror. Surprise, surprise, it was! Browsing the horror section of the local bookshop can be very disappointing. So much of what you find is so derivative to the point of parody. But this was something else again: an inventive setting, a monster that wasn't a vampire, zombie, or alien (I don't think), and skeptical protagonists that are actually served and not...more
At its most basic level, Eutopia, set in 1911, is the story of two men, a black medical doctor and a white teenager, who have to face an otherworldly being that tricks people into thinking it’s God.
Eutopia is also about a town in Idaho called Eliada (which means “watched over by God”, according to one of the characters). Eliada is a child of the eugenics movement of the late 19th and early 20th centuries which proposed that some races (whatever that really means) are more fit to survive in the w...more
Eutopia is also about a town in Idaho called Eliada (which means “watched over by God”, according to one of the characters). Eliada is a child of the eugenics movement of the late 19th and early 20th centuries which proposed that some races (whatever that really means) are more fit to survive in the w...more
Yes oh all right huh no...no, surely - oh I see, no I don't see – what? All of them? Who's – oh yes. No! he would not do that. Ow, that must have – get him! No, her, not him. Ulp ergh. Too gynaecological! Dead Ringers meets Deliverance meets The Thing? Ha ha. What's this? God? God? Ridiculous. Author gone mad. This is the perfect Christmas present for your maiden aunt – the one you hope will die soon and leave you her house. Might speed up the process. Eurgh, I did not need that. Oh – aargh – ma...more
While it sometimes suffers from clunky writing, this novel has some fascinating characters and a unique blend of history and sci-fi. The weird mix of strange creatures, eugenics and religion leaves many gaps that take some time to bridge, but are satisfying when they do. Jason Thistledown and Andrew Wagonner are great heroes yet retain a high degree of approachability.
Some scenes were vague in the physical placement of the characters and objects, and a few of the religious moments were also too...more
Some scenes were vague in the physical placement of the characters and objects, and a few of the religious moments were also too...more
This was well written and imaginative but hey holy hillbillies it was too way out. The story revolves around a utopian society in Idaho that goes awry, as such things are wont to do. The sub-plot (co-plot?) has to do with a young man orphaned by a deadly virus that kills his whole town. An aunt who just happens to be on her way through brings him to the utopian society, called Eliada.
I had the feeling you sometimes get when someone buys you two birthday presents instead of one - that nagging fe...more
I had the feeling you sometimes get when someone buys you two birthday presents instead of one - that nagging fe...more
I knew this was going to be an unconventional book from having read a few of the reviews, but this western-meets-fantasy-meets horror novel was even weirder than I'd expected.
The book is set around a hundred years ago, and has two main protagonists. The first is Jason, a young man whose world falls apart when his mother dies. When her sister arrives Jason is glad to have another relative to lean on, and he needs all the support he can get once the snow melts enough for him to go to the nearby to...more
The book is set around a hundred years ago, and has two main protagonists. The first is Jason, a young man whose world falls apart when his mother dies. When her sister arrives Jason is glad to have another relative to lean on, and he needs all the support he can get once the snow melts enough for him to go to the nearby to...more
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The premise of this book sounded so interesting, and I couldn't wait to start it. It started off with promise, but then the story began to unravel and ultimately I found myself disappointed. When the story took a turn I didn't quite expect, I went with it, but in the end felt the it should have stayed more focused on the concept of Eugenics and not strayed to the supernatural. To me, the idea of a group trying to "cleanse" society is far more frightening than some backwoods monsters.
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David Nickle lives and works in Toronto. He's had more than 30 short stories published in magazines, anthologies and online, and adapted for television. In 1997, he and Edo Van Belkom won a Bram Stoker Award for their short story "Rat Food." In 1993, he and Karl Schroeder co-wrote "The Toy Mill" and won an Aurora Award for short form work in English. In 1997, they published The Claus Effect, an ex...more
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