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Out of the Vinyl Deeps: Ellen Willis on Rock Music
In 1968, the New Yorker hired Ellen Willis as its first popular music critic. Her column, Rock, Etc., ran for seven years and established Willis as a leader in cultural commentary and a pioneer in the nascent and otherwise male-dominated field of rock criticism. As a writer for a magazine with a circulation of nearly half a million, Willis was also the country’s most widel...more
Paperback, 234 pages
Published
May 1st 2011
by Univ Of Minnesota Press
(first published April 6th 2011)
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Having been conversely born too late and too early (1964), I sometimes seek out music or literary criticism of earlier ages to learn about unheralded artists that I missed, or to view from afar some seminal moment in the culture that has passed into legend and therefore is not reported truthfully any longer. I have been reading 1970s criticism and essays and learning a great deal, just as I did when I delved deeply into the Algonquin Circle as a teenager and learned about writers and events not...more
Jan 16, 2012
Bruce
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3 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
WC magazine readers
Recommended to Bruce by:
NPR Music (and shame on them)
I have strong ambivalence about this book... attract/repel, really. Attract, because most of these collected essays are so short (about 2-3 pages on average) that the book was easy enough to grab whenever I had a few minutes to kill. Repel, because so many of the essays sounded full of, in Willis’ words, “the worst kind of pretentious nonsense,” a baleful reminder of my own bloviating tendencies.
Vinyl Deeps largely consists of Willis’ New Yorker articles on rock from the late ‘60s to mid-’70s. A...more
Vinyl Deeps largely consists of Willis’ New Yorker articles on rock from the late ‘60s to mid-’70s. A...more
Before reading this book, I was fairly certain Ellen Willis was my favorite music critic, and now, having experienced her work in the genre in concentrated form, I'm can say that, groundbreaking as it may be, she isn't. For one thing, she isn't a music critic at all -- she's a rock critic (which she would surely cop to). Her tastes, filtered through the folk precociousness of her adolescence, with its emphasis on MEANING, is as status quo as her politics were radical -- her Bible is Stones, Dyla...more
The career of Ellen Willis as a rock music critic was comparatively brief, spanning the late 1960’s to the early 1970’s, but during that time she wrote some of the most insightful and thought provoking essays on rock and roll to date. As a radical feminist writing about a male dominated music for male dominated media, it took strong will and opinions to get her ideas out there, and she never wavered in her convictions. Beginning with the essay about Bob Dylan which brought her to the attention o...more
Jun 03, 2011
Jonathan
marked it as to-read
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Ellen Willis was one of the first rock critics — at a time starting in the late 1960s — when serious writing about rock, pop and R&B was rare. She was the first pop-music critic for The New Yorker, starting in 1968. She combined a love of pop culture and an active engagement with feminist theory to create a unique body of writing, which finally gets a proper showcase in a new anthology titled Out of the Vinyl Deeps: Ellen Willis on Rock Music, edited b...more
Ellen Willis was one of the first rock critics — at a time starting in the late 1960s — when serious writing about rock, pop and R&B was rare. She was the first pop-music critic for The New Yorker, starting in 1968. She combined a love of pop culture and an active engagement with feminist theory to create a unique body of writing, which finally gets a proper showcase in a new anthology titled Out of the Vinyl Deeps: Ellen Willis on Rock Music, edited b...more
Ellen Willis was The New Yorker's first rock music critic. Along with her contemporaries Lester Bangs, Robert Christgau, and Griel Marcus, Willis showed the intelligensia that rock music was worthy of the same sophisticated criticism and analysis as art and literature. After the mid-70's, Willis' writing focused more on feminism and politics, so she never became the rock writer emeritus like Marcus or Christgau, but her early columns for the New Yorker forever shaped our understanding of Bob Dyl...more
I liked this so much that it just reminded me how much I usually hate reading music criticism.
From the intro: "Ellen would surely agree that we won't see a revival of revolutionary sentiment until we learn to make it fun. In that respect, Ellen, Emma Goldman, and Abbie Hoffman are part of a lost tradition - radicals of desire."
One great sentence: "Using other people's and other eras' forms, making sure we heard the innocence or the silliness or the melodrama, Midler communicated her need to love...more
From the intro: "Ellen would surely agree that we won't see a revival of revolutionary sentiment until we learn to make it fun. In that respect, Ellen, Emma Goldman, and Abbie Hoffman are part of a lost tradition - radicals of desire."
One great sentence: "Using other people's and other eras' forms, making sure we heard the innocence or the silliness or the melodrama, Midler communicated her need to love...more
This book shouldn't have taken me almost a month to read, but I've been a little busy. And maybe if I'd read it more purposefully I would've loved it. Who knows? I'll surely read it again, since it's clearly of historical import and it's definitely very good from beginning to end, but I wasn't nearly as wowed by it as I expected to be.
I think the aspect of Willis' writing that most disappointed me was her style. She was brilliant and thoughtful, and almost always very clear and readable, but the...more
I think the aspect of Willis' writing that most disappointed me was her style. She was brilliant and thoughtful, and almost always very clear and readable, but the...more
It was cool to read historic reviews of records of the 60s, 70s, and a little of 80s and hear what people thought of those records when they came out. Willis talks a lot about Dylan, Janis Joplin, and Creedence. Other artists discussed here include the New York Dolls, Beatles, Bowie, who all get a generous treatment, and then Clapton, the Who, the Doors (just 1 essay I think), Black Sabbath (1 article, at least it's about Vol 4), Patti Smith, Elvis and a few others. My favorite chapters were by...more
Anthology of reviews written by Ellen Willis, the music critic at The New Yorker from the late 1960s to mid 1970s. The reviews are organized into sections with titles assigned by the editor, Willis’s daughter (examples, “The Adoring Fan,” “The Navigator”). The section called “The Feminist” was reasonably cohesive. In most cases the reviews didn’t clearly fit the section name, which made it hard to overlook introductions of “new” bands that had been covered in depth 50 pages earlier. Janis Joplin...more
I like music, all kinds of music, but it's more in the vein of saying, "Oh, I really like this song," when it comes on the radio, but then five minutes later I can't remember what the song is called or who sung it. I only remember what it was I liked about the song.
So, I don't read a lot about music, a topic that produces endless amounts of material for the fanatics. Willis was obviously one of those fanatics, but I think what she was more interested in were the parts of music that stick with us...more
So, I don't read a lot about music, a topic that produces endless amounts of material for the fanatics. Willis was obviously one of those fanatics, but I think what she was more interested in were the parts of music that stick with us...more
Willis is a sharp writer and this book is a lot of fun. And it's not just rock criticism as we today understand it; since this is the 60's, that magical time when music, art, drugs, culture and politics were all swirled together into one confusing, thrilling, heady mix, it's more like a devastatingly lucid, moment by moment, on-the-scene chronicle of the times. I particularly like the Bob Dylan piece that kicks things off, and it's hard to find any rock criticism better than her tough minded tak...more
Out of the Vinyl Deeps is a collection of short essays and columns written by Ellen Willis from the late 60s to early 80s. Except for the two bookends, essays are very short and highly readable. Though it is clear Ellen is a smart, sophisticated writer, she writes in a simple, direct, and personable tone. They consist of recollections of shows, recommendations for new bands she's listening to, and album reviews. Throughout all her writings runs a thread of reflection on popular music's place in...more
This book took a little while to hook me, but once I got into it, it was SO GOOD. LET ME SAY "SO GOOD" IN CAPS ONCE MORE FOR EMPHASIS.
This is a collection of Ellen Willis's essays about rock & pop music, mostly from the New Yorker (where she was the first Rock & Pop columnist). Later in her career, she wrote less about music and more about gender studies, freedom, and radical leftist topics, but there was a nice dose of this in a lot of her music writing, as well (for example, her dissec...more
This is a collection of Ellen Willis's essays about rock & pop music, mostly from the New Yorker (where she was the first Rock & Pop columnist). Later in her career, she wrote less about music and more about gender studies, freedom, and radical leftist topics, but there was a nice dose of this in a lot of her music writing, as well (for example, her dissec...more
I read a few glowing reviews about this book so I decided to give it a go. I don't read a lot of music criticism so I was curious about the first female rock critic and I was curious about rock writing in general. It wasn't a badly written book, it just didn't interest me as much as I thought it would.
The essays are from the 1970's so they focus on 70's rock bands - Bob Dyaln, Velvet Underground, Mot the Hoople, etc. Well, I was born in the late 70's but grew up in the 80's and 90's. Willis was...more
The essays are from the 1970's so they focus on 70's rock bands - Bob Dyaln, Velvet Underground, Mot the Hoople, etc. Well, I was born in the late 70's but grew up in the 80's and 90's. Willis was...more
This is a collection of Ms. Willis’s articles she wrote for The New Yorker in the late ’60s and ’70s while she was the pop music critic. The articles are some of the best writing I’ve come across. Every idea, comparison, and critique is so well-crafted, so thought out that her intent, meaning, whatever, is crystal clear. There is not a single bloated paragraph. What’s great is she’s a fan of the music, so there’s no condescension, none of that “these kids today and their music.” kind of thing. B...more
the review was first published in maximum rock-n-roll may 2012
Ellen Willis was a feminist and a rock critic back when rock-n-roll and feminism were generally thought to be opposed to one another. Growing up in the 70's and 80's, I remember this dichotomy well. As a teenage punk rocker I went through a heavy rock-n-roll stage in the mid-80's -- Black Flag had long hair, Red Kross and The Melvins covered Kiss, Saint Vitus were ripping off Black Sabbath and I was learning to play drums -- pretty so...more
Ellen Willis was a feminist and a rock critic back when rock-n-roll and feminism were generally thought to be opposed to one another. Growing up in the 70's and 80's, I remember this dichotomy well. As a teenage punk rocker I went through a heavy rock-n-roll stage in the mid-80's -- Black Flag had long hair, Red Kross and The Melvins covered Kiss, Saint Vitus were ripping off Black Sabbath and I was learning to play drums -- pretty so...more
Bob Dylan "went electric" in July of 1965. Now, I had once heard that Dylan went electric, I'd heard neighbors and family mention this fact off-hand once or twice in my youth, and, frankly, I probably also heard it on a Behind the Music. I didn't care that Dylan went electric. Why would anyone?
Ellen Willis set me straight on the subject of Dylan's electrification, as she set me straight on several other subjects. I now care, and have an opinion. Willis, the afterword notes, had an interest in...more
An extremely fine and overdue collection of Willis' music writing. She comes across as an incredibly smart critic and commenter, reviewing both the music itself (and often how it affects her, mind and body), and the social context in which it appeared (mind, and cultural superego, I suppose). If a very few mentions are a tad dated (which is to be expected), she had the good sense and intelligence to go deep on artists who deserved such treatment: Willis is especially good on Dylan (as good as an...more
collection of willis' articles (mainly from "the new yorker" 1968-1975) but also some from that same time zone in "village voice", "cheetah", and some rolling stone writing, and some album notes. then from later in salon.com and her book "beginning the see the light: sex, hope, and rock n roll". it's safe to say all are in earnest, most are open minded, some are significant cultural analysis, and a few a just brilliant and could have been written in 2012 instead of 1969 ("don;t turn your back on...more
I was really interested in this collection of rock criticism columns from Ellen Willis, who was the New Yorker's first rock critic from 1968-1975. Her column, "Rock, etc." is especially interesting, because it offers a look at rock criticism of some of the most important musicians of the time (Dylan, the Velvet Underground, Bruce, The Stones, etc.) and their historic albums and concerts, not with an eye toward their historical significance, but rather with opinions from the time when they were j...more
Once again, a woman's strong voice is buried under the din of the more well-known, popular male voices in the field. Willis' observations on music are interesting and I find myself wishing she had stuck with it, and more fully integrated her feminist sensibility into her rock writing. It is interesting to watch it develop. I almost wish that the anthology were arranged chronologically rather than thematically.
Why have I not heard of Ellen Willis before? Her lengthy essay on Bob Dylan is outstanding; it anticipates the film I'm Not There with her understanding of how Dylan used fame and publicity to cultivate mystique and to create privacy out of multiple personas. It's all the more extraordinary for her clear-sightedness without the benefit hindsight.
Most of her judgments have stood the test of time though the kind of music journalism Willis writes is out of fashion today. Her reviews are full of del...more
Most of her judgments have stood the test of time though the kind of music journalism Willis writes is out of fashion today. Her reviews are full of del...more
Any music lover will love this book. A feminist who doesn't hate men, a music lover who is objective in her analysis of time and place, a connected person who is not fascinated with being connected, and one who hits it perfect in her take on music and the great artists of an era--extremely interesting essays spanning over 30 years.
Collection of brilliant essays from Willis's tenure as a rock music critic through an important era of American & British popular music -- the late 60s through the early 80s, with a lot of 70s in the middle. Notable not just because Willis's prose is so very quotable, or because she writes about the not-always-comfortable intersection between culture and ideology as anyone I've ever read -- but also because she works so much of the personal experience of concert-going & record-listening...more
I'm surprised that Ellen Willis could get her head out of her ass long enough to write these essays.
Actually she's not all bad; she's a fan of some of the same music I love, but her need to pretentiously wring meanings and reverberations out of everything vinyl misses the whole fun part of music. Also a lot of the content seems to be more about Ellen Willis' head than the putative subject. Also she disrespects Bob Dylan, overly respects Mick Jagger, and is unaware of Keith Richards. She does ge...more
Actually she's not all bad; she's a fan of some of the same music I love, but her need to pretentiously wring meanings and reverberations out of everything vinyl misses the whole fun part of music. Also a lot of the content seems to be more about Ellen Willis' head than the putative subject. Also she disrespects Bob Dylan, overly respects Mick Jagger, and is unaware of Keith Richards. She does ge...more
Ellen Willis's writing is the perfect time machine antidote for our skewed and over-saturated impression of the sixties and seventies. Her honest analysis of records and artists and live shows and "The Time" made me understand that decade in a way I never had before. Her review of the Beatles' White Album had me seeing the world of rock and roll in a whole new light, pre-reverence and commercialization, as did her take on live Lou Reed/New York Dolls/Grand Funk and Woodstock, an honest fan's rea...more
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