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Çağımızın en özgün yazarlarından biri olan David Foster Wallace'dan hayata, seçimlere ve gerçeklere dair bir yol haritası: Bu Su. 2008 yılında uzun yıllar boyunca mücadele ettiği depresyona yenik düşen ve intihar ederek hayatına son veren Wallace, bu kısacık metinde algının tuzaklarını, insanın kendini hapsettiği çıkmazları ve gözlerimizin önünde uzandıkları halde kavramay ...more
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Published 2014 by Siren Yayınları (first published 2009)
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Allie DFW gave this speech for a crowd of graduating college seniors and their families. Practically, I would say it's a family-friendly read as far as…moreDFW gave this speech for a crowd of graduating college seniors and their families. Practically, I would say it's a family-friendly read as far as language, but the content, while overall pretty heartening, can be heavy. It has deep implications about the harsh tediums of adult life. There are mentions of suicide, atheism, etc. These are all topics addressed by American high school English classes.

Intellectually, DFW cuts no corners, but he was giving a speech, so I'm one for thinking this is a little more digestible than his other works.

So: what age would be appropriate? I would say probably most high school students would be able to process the content of this speech. But in my mind, unless they're more thoughtful than most they might not appreciate what DFW has to say about adult life until they go out and live it themselves. Hope that helps!(less)
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Stephen M
David Foster Wallace was a beautiful fucking person who said a lot of beautiful fucking things.
Nathan "N.R." Gaddis
This is Water, like The Communist Manifesto, is an unfortunate document. Both are occasional pieces written for a narrowly prescribed purpose. Both appear to be distillates of a much broader, systematic force of thinking. Both are of a genre which have very tight constraints--the commencement speech and the manifesto--which dictate and limit the possibilities for both form and content. Both are widely read by those not familiar with that systematic thought. By not taking into account the genre o ...more
Seemita
‘This is Water’.

Water - Now I love that metaphor. I end up addressing many things and their traits and their progresses and their declines through this unbound source of immense satiation. But how does this fit into a speech delivered to students, facing a future that’s unknown and by that very virtue, intimidating?

Ah well, the thoughts weaved into this beautiful message says it all. For a text that I ended up highlighting half of, I would like to take this particular insight with me, forever.
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Greg
Apr 12, 2009 Greg rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: essays, life-is-shit
This may come as a surprise to people who know me, but I never read this before it came out in book format. I knew it existed, but like most of the occasional and short pieces by DFW I held off on reading them. At the time his writing came out so infrequently, that I always wanted to have things of his to read at some point in the future, when I would really want something new of his. Of course that has changed to their being nothing new to release, except for unpublished things that might see t ...more
MJ Nicholls
Dec 04, 2012 MJ Nicholls rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: non-fiction, merkins
Better heard spoken for the full sting. A powerful speech but the message seems to be rather simple: don’t be a selfish asshat. Or is that a little reductive? Anyway—one star for the cash-in and four stars for the speech. Coming soon from Little, Brown in DVD & books: The Best Hesitant Pauses on KCRW’s Bookworm, The Ten Best Awkward Selfconscious Squirming Moments on Charlie Rose, and Half-Remembered Conversations Anyone Has Ever Had With DFW. Also available from the DFW Tacky Cash-in Empori ...more
sweet jane
Jun 07, 2016 sweet jane rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
[κριτική και που να το βρείτε δωρεάν]

"The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. That is real freedom. The alternative is unconsciousness, the default-setting, the “rat race” — the constant gnawing sense of having had and lost some infinite thing"

Πραγματικά καταπληκτική ομιλία. Μπορείτε να την βρείτε στα
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Γκέλλυ
May 27, 2017 Γκέλλυ rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Γκέλλυ by: Elina
Δεν ξέρω πως να βαθμολογήσω αυτό που διάβασα (και το διάβασα και 2 φορές). Θα πω μόνο τα εξής:

- Μου αρέσει πως σκέφτεται (ή σκεφτόταν) αυτός ο τύπος
- Γιατί να μην ήμουν στην ομιλία του?
- Όταν γράφει "Είμαι βέβαιος οτι γνωρίζετε από πρώτο χέρι πόσο δύσκολο είναι να παραμένεις σε εγρήγορση αντί να υπνωτίζεσαι από τον διαρκή μονόλογο μέσα στο κεφάλι σου" εγώ κουνάω το κεφάλι καταφατικά.

Αρα, πατάω κάτι στην τύχη (που τυχαίνει να είναι 5)
karen
Jul 09, 2009 karen rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: dfw
so. it gets five stars because of how terribly sad i still am. i read this online, of course, years and years ago, but i reread it in book form, just to see if anything had been added. it hasn't. just the fact of his death on the flap. i'd really rather have added material than that fact, wouldn't you? and i also would have liked this to have been delivered at my graduation (i mean, i had quincy jones, i can't complain too much, but still... despite all the good advice in this book, i am a compl ...more
Håkon
Jun 28, 2016 Håkon rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
“There are these two young fish swimming along and they happen to meet an older fish swimming the other way, who nods at them and says "Morning, boys. How's the water?" And the two young fish swim on for a bit, and then eventually one of them looks over at the other and goes "What the hell is water?"

What DFW wanted to get across with this little story was that the most obvious realities are often the hardest ones to talk about. To David Foster Wallace, this difficuilt, but most obvious reality w
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Joshua Nomen-Mutatio
Jan 17, 2009 Joshua Nomen-Mutatio rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Liberal Arts Students; Everyone
FURTHER UPDATED REVIEW (consolidation of general remarks of mine from review comment threads for this book/speech):

Is This Speech Depressing?

I have to respectfully disagree and say that I found this to be uplifting in a really serious way--like my version of a Chicken Soup For The Soul sense of uplifting (er, uh, something)--which is a feeling of redemption via facing messy truths and feeling my own thoughts to be extremely validated by his beautiful ideas and phrasings. I'd read it many times o
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Jason
Mar 30, 2014 Jason rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: for-kindle, reviewed, 2014
This Is Water is kind of like a modern version of Rainer Maria Rilke’s Letters to a Young Poet. With the exception, of course, that This Is Water is not a collection of letters, does not discuss poetry or writing, and is not addressed to a single individual but to a college’s entire student body. Other than that, though, they’re pretty much the same thing.

What I mean is that there’s something very inspirational (for lack of a better word) in these texts whose words seem to have been composed on-
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Junta
Oct 31, 2016 Junta rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Junta by: Infinite Jest
There are these two young fish swimming along and they happen to meet an older fish swimming the other way, who nods at them and says "Morning, boys. How's the water?" And the two young fish swim on for a bit, and then eventually one of them looks over at the other and goes "What the hell is water?"
My first literary quote shirt (received as a present). On the shirt, the utterances make up the fish themselves. I'm waiting for the day when someone sees my shirt, walks up to me, and says "This is W
...more
rahul
Dec 18, 2013 rahul rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This is water.
And I have to learn to breath in it.
This is water.
Emma
Jun 07, 2017 Emma rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
If you want something to make you think about the every day life, here. read.
Roula
Nov 17, 2016 Roula rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Μου πηρε λιγοτερο απο μιση ωρα για να διαβασω αυτο εδω το βιβλιο αλλα ειμαι σιγουρη πως θα το σκεφτομαι για πολυ περισσοτερες ωρες και θα επανελθω σε αυτο πολυ περισσοτερες φορες..ο wallace ταιριαζει πολυ στα γουστα μου ως συγγραφεας(το ειχα συνειδητοποιησει και στη "σκουπα" αυτο) και αυτο μου το απεδειξε και με αυτη την τρομερα inspiring oμιλια του.θιγει πολυ σημαντικα θεματα με κυριοτερο-για μενα- οτι το "κεφαλι" μας ειναι "κουρδισμενο" να σκεφτεται παντα με εναν πολυ συγκεκριμενο ατομικιστικο ...more
Jenny
Feb 13, 2016 Jenny rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Ωραία ομιλία!Ο Wallace δεν λέει κάτι πρωτότυπο-αλλά οι γνωστές αυτές αλήθειες ξεχνιούνται εύκολα,και μας τις θυμίζει με όμορφο τρόπο.Το κείμενο κυλάει γρήγορα κι εύκολα!

"A huge percentage of the stuff that I tend to be automatically certain of is,
it turns out, totally wrong and deluded. Here's one example of the utter
wrongness of something I tend to be automatically sure of: Everything in
my own immediate experience supports my deep belief that I am the
absolute center of the universe, the re
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Elina
Oct 21, 2016 Elina rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Η πρώτη μου επαφή με τον Wallace ήταν συγκλονιστική. Κατά τύχη επέλεξα να διαβάσω το "Αυτό εδώ είναι νερό" το οποίο είναι ουσιαστικά η ομιλία του συγγραφέα σε αποφοίτους γνωστού κολεγίου. Ο λόγος του απλός και κατανοητός, όμως τόσο μα τόσο ουσιαστικός. Τον λάτρεψα!! Αγάπησα τις απόψεις του και προσωρινά έστω, κάτι άλλαξε μέσα μου. Απορείς πώς ένας άνθρωπος που μπορεί να σκέφτεται με αυτόν τον τρόπο, αποφασίζει να δώσει ο ίδιος τέλος στη ζωή του. Το βιβλιαράκι αυτό έχει και μια μικρή ανάλυση στο ...more
Foteini Daila
Jun 09, 2016 Foteini Daila rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Ευχαριστώ τον Wallace που διάβασα ό,τι ακριβώς έπρεπε να διαβάσω. Χωρίς να το παίζει αυθεντία, έπιασε την ουσία : εμείς επιλέγουμε πως θα δούμε τα πράγματα, εμείς επιλέγουμε τι είναι σημαντικό ανάλογα με τις εμπειρίες μας. Ας μην είμαστε στενόμυαλοι και δογματικοί. Και να μην είμαστε εγωκεντρικοί, αλλά να έχουμε στο μυαλό μας και "τους άλλους".
Τελικά, τι είναι νερό; Απλή η ερώτηση, δύσκολη (και διαφορετική για τον καθένα) η απάντηση. Ό,τι και να είναι, θα μάθω να αναπνέω σε αυτό.
Vale
Mar 17, 2013 Vale rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
People get used to the sadness of everyday life. Then they find a goal that then becomes the anchor they cling to in order to survive.
People live without awareness like the Lotus-eaters in The Odyssey: they live only to live; in and of itself.
People I know, above all in the city, are unhappy. They think that the system framed them. Sometimes it happens to me as well.
You wonder why you are doing things that you wouldn't normally do. I like my life and I am a positive person: after a good walk all
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Vasileios
Dec 21, 2015 Vasileios rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
http://dreamersandco.com/2016/01/%CE%...

Το Αυτό εδώ είναι νερό (εκδόσεις Κριτική, 2015), του Ντέιβιντ Φόστερ Γουάλας επιτέλους κυκλοφόρησε στα ελληνικά. Είναι ένας συγγραφέας που είχαν εκδοθεί δύο μόνο μυθιστορήματά του πριν από αυτό, τα οποία ίσως είχαν περάσει απαρατήρητα (στο περισσότερο κοινό). Τα τελευταία χρόνια όμως ο συγγραφέας έχει αποκτήσει ακόμη μεγαλύτερη φήμη παγκοσμίως (ίσως και μετά την αυτοκτονία του). Ελπίζω το Αυτό εδώ είναι νερό να είναι η αρχή για να εκδοθούν σταδιακά όλα τα
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Franco  Santos
Erase dos peces jóvenes que nadaban juntos cuando de repente se toparon con un pez viejo, que los saludó y les dijo, "Buenos días, muchachos. ¿Cómo está el agua?" Los dos peces jóvenes siguieron nadando un rato, hasta que eventualmente uno de ellos miró al otro y le preguntó, "¿Qué demonios es el agua?"
Simplemente brillante. El último discurso que dio David Foster Wallace antes de su muerte.

Pocos libros me llegaron tanto como este. Es muy corto pero transmite muchísimo. Si tienen diez minutos
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Oscar
Jan 01, 2016 Oscar rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
En 2005, en la Universidad de Kenyon, David Foster Wallace dio un discurso en la ceremonia de graduación titulado ‘Esto es agua’ (This Is Water). El discurso es un alegato a favor de la educación y la compasión. Más que enseñar a pensar, Wallace aboga por saber en qué pensar, y resalta la importancia de comprender nuestro entorno, de intentar empatizar con aquello y aquellos que nos rodean. Es un texto corto pero profundo que hace reflexionar.
Bloody Mary
Feb 11, 2017 Bloody Mary rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Μεγάλες αλήθειες. Εντάξει, ο παππούς Αδάμ το δάγκωσε το ρημάδι το μηλαράκι του, ο κόσμος δεν είναι πια ιδανικός και ο δρόμος μέχρι να μάθουμε ότι ''αυτό εδώ είναι νερό'' είναι μακρύς. Αλλά πόσο καλύτερο μπορεί να γίνει το μέλλον, πόσο λέξεις όπως ''ενσυναίσθηση'', ''αγάπη'' και ''αυτοθυσία'' μπορούν να γίνουν πράξη, όταν στην ανταγωνιστική κοινωνία μας έχουμε εκπαιδευτεί (συχνά άθελά μας) να είμαστε κριτές των πάντων; Βλέπε ακόμη και τηλεπαιχνίδια τύπου ''Voice'' που από τον καναπέ σου μπορείς ν ...more
Milly Cohen
Ufffffffffffffffffffff
Cada estrella vale mil, o sea que lo califico con 5 mil!
¿qué les pasa? ¿por qué no me lo habían recomendado antes?

Se ha convertido en mi texto favorito, compraré todos para regalarlos, lo compartiré con mis alumnos que se gradúan, con mis hijos que ya se titularon, con los que aún no, y un día, con mis nietos, con la única esperanza de que no olviden que son ellos, y sólo ellos, quiénes deciden y eligen QUÉ PENSAR.
Danny
Jul 28, 2009 Danny rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
As I came here to post my review of this book, I stumbled onto reviews posted by others. The general perception seemed to be a sense of sadness. Perhaps it's because of what Wallace did ultimately. But I read this speech differently.

I read it as a generous gift delivered by a deeply troubled and pained person of unusual intelligence. And while this is an address to graduates, it seems to me that he speaks, in a way, to try to convince himself too. He says,

"...there are all different kinds of fre
...more
Sean-Wyn
My teacher made us listen to this speech during class yesterday, and it was phenomenal! Wallace is a remarkably perceptive speaker who can conjure up just the right analogies to convey his message. He introduces the concept of our self-centered "default" setting and weaves it through his speech without sounding cliché. The sprinkle of humor he adds here and there is also nice. Like "I Have a Dream," I think this is a speech everyone should listen to.
Duane
What the hell is this you may ask. Well, this is a commencement address by David Foster Wallace to the graduates of Kenyon College in 2005. But why would you want to read that someone else asks. Well, I wanted to be introduced to David Foster Wallace, and this relatively short essay seemed like a good place to start. I'm ready to begin reading Wallace's Infinite Jest, a 1,000 page Everest of a book, which I'm looking forward to about as much as I was to reading Joyce's Ulysses. Also in my litera ...more
Cristina
Nov 01, 2016 Cristina rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Propongo a los responsables de preparación de las pruebas de acceso a la universidad que tengan en cuenta este maravilloso texto de David Foster Wallace para eventuales exámenes futuros. Quizá los alumnos aprenderían algo diferente que leyendo y comentando una entrevista a Steve Jobs, como ocurrió en el examen de inglés del 2012 en Cataluña.

Os dejo el discurso pronunciado por el autor en la ceremonia de graduación de la Universidad de Kenyon en 2005:

http://assets.espapdf.com/b/David%20F...
Carla
Mar 24, 2015 Carla rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: e-books-kobo, 2015
Simplesmente brilhante!

“The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. That is real freedom. The alternative is unconsciousness, the default-setting, the “rat race” — the constant gnawing sense of having had and lost some infinite thing.” (P.7/8)
Steven
"I know that this stuff probably doesn’t sound fun or breezy or grandly inspirational the way a commencement speech's central stuff should sound. What it is, so far as I can see, is the truth, with a whole lot of rhetorical bullshit pared away." (124-125)

[I'll add more to this review tomorrow; it's late and I very much need to sleep.]
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