Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA
by
Tim Weiner (Goodreads Author)
For the last sixty years, the CIA has managed to maintain a formidable reputation in spite of its terrible record, burying its blunders in top-secret archives. Its mission was to know the world. When it did not succeed, it set out to change the world. Its failures have handed us, in the words of President Eisenhower, “a legacy of ashes.”
Now Pulitzer Prize–winning author Ti...more
Now Pulitzer Prize–winning author Ti...more
Hardcover, 1st Edition, 702 pages
Published
June 28th 2007
by Doubleday
(first published January 1st 2007)
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Attention crazy people! If you are one of those poor souls who thinks that the Central Intelligence Agency is reading your thoughts and/or manipulating your brain waves, I have good news for you. You can take off your aluminum foil hat and stop trying to pull out that tooth with the tracking device. Here it is:
The CIA is too incompetent to do any of the things you are worried about. Seriously.
After reading Legacy of Ashes, I’m amazed that we weren’t taken down by the Soviets during the Cold Wa...more
The CIA is too incompetent to do any of the things you are worried about. Seriously.
After reading Legacy of Ashes, I’m amazed that we weren’t taken down by the Soviets during the Cold Wa...more
Written by a writer who has won the Pullitzer Prize for his work on National Security for the New York Times, this is the first ever comprehensive, on the record, history of the CIA. Every interview in the book is on the record, including 10 Directors and over 100 agents. With newfound access to thousands of recently declassified documents, and extensive notes, this is the best history of the CIA you're likely to read.
This is a devastating book. The experience of reading it reminded me of the e...more
This is a devastating book. The experience of reading it reminded me of the e...more
Oddly enough, it was
The Looking Glass War
that early on opened my eyes to the fact that intelligence work was not conducted with the hyper-competency and machinelike efficiency with which it was depicted in most fiction. When it comes to the Western intelligence agencies, one would think, with a seemingly bottomless budget and access to vast congeries of technology, weaponry, and personnel - state-of-the-art all - there would be few secrets, allied or enemy, incapable of being swiftly ferreted...more
A sprawling, fierce work of history, scholarship, and journalism. Markedly pessimistic in tone, Tim Weiner chronicles the often tragic history of America's once revered intelligence service. What he finds is that the the CIA has failed in its fundamental mission – to gather, analyze, and disseminate intelligence – for the better part of a century.
Weiner argues that the agency has suffered from and still suffers from several cancers. First is the propensity of its directors to bend to the politi...more
Weiner argues that the agency has suffered from and still suffers from several cancers. First is the propensity of its directors to bend to the politi...more
Oct 29, 2007
Nathan
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3 of 5 stars
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Dwight D. Eisenhower, were he still with us.
The title of Tim Weiner's tome about the CIA, "Legacy of Ashes", is a quote taken from a comment Dwight Eisenhower made about what he was leaving behind for subsequent presidents. Ike felt he had left a broken and ineffectual intelligence agency far removed from the reality of what America needed. In "Legacy of Ashes", Weiner proves Ike right. Starting with the 1947 birth of the Central Intelligence Agency, Weiner takes us through intelligence bungle after intelligence bungle. Today, everyone is...more
The history of the CIA has always been shrouded in secrecy. Recently more and more documents have quietly been made public. With these documents an interesting and darker history of the agency begins to emerge. Time after time the agency has shown disaster, failure, and complete stupidity. Those outside the agency (often including the President) are only shown the smoke and mirrors creating a splendid and false perspective of the agency.
This history was produced to show that the agency has more...more
This history was produced to show that the agency has more...more
a blistering and exhaustively-sourced condemnation of the CIA, an agency (as Henry Kissinger put it) has a reputation of ruthless efficiency that does not in any way reflect reality, which is persistent incompetence. Not only has the CIA failed in the vast majority of its covert operations, it also failed in the most rudimentary of its functions - providing the President with accurate intelligence upon the intentions and capabilities of America's enemies.
Sometimes I think the CIA is kept around just so all those old movies and Tom Clancy books will make sense. Because really, from start to finish, the Agency has proven a monumental failure.
The title Legacy of Ashes comes from President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who hopelessly battled the Agency throughout his eight years in office. Undoubtedly, his inability to change the CIA was partially responsible for his famous parting shot: the military-industrial complex speech.
Author Tim Weiner agrees with...more
The title Legacy of Ashes comes from President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who hopelessly battled the Agency throughout his eight years in office. Undoubtedly, his inability to change the CIA was partially responsible for his famous parting shot: the military-industrial complex speech.
Author Tim Weiner agrees with...more
Legacy of Ashes is founded on three premises.
1. The CIA is incompetent. The author gathers plenty of ammo to back this one up, to the point of downplaying the agency’s successes and highlighting its failures. He still makes a compelling argument that the CIA’s track record isn’t good.
2. The CIA’s dual functions – gathering intelligence and covert operations – are fundamentally at odds with each other. This is obvious: covert operations thrive on secrecy, not openness. On a more practical level:...more
1. The CIA is incompetent. The author gathers plenty of ammo to back this one up, to the point of downplaying the agency’s successes and highlighting its failures. He still makes a compelling argument that the CIA’s track record isn’t good.
2. The CIA’s dual functions – gathering intelligence and covert operations – are fundamentally at odds with each other. This is obvious: covert operations thrive on secrecy, not openness. On a more practical level:...more
despite being both wildly entertaining and wildly informative, this book catches a three-star rating for all that it lacks. the subject matter requires the full-on multi-volume robert caro approach... weiner's 514 pgs just can't suffice. he skims over so much, leaves out so much necessary and vital information, that as much as i enjoyed it i cannot go above three stars. moreover, i had two fundamental complaints:
1) his conclusions are waaaay too linear. okay, you're writing a book on the CIA, an...more
1) his conclusions are waaaay too linear. okay, you're writing a book on the CIA, an...more
It's a very interesting read, from a historical perspective, at any rate. Some of the conclusions are suspect, at least in my eyes. One has to wonder, if the CIA was such a bungling, inept, rigid, clueless and blind institution, then why weren't we at the mercy of other countries' intelligence departments? Especially when most were, according to the author, so much better than ours was.
On the other hand, I can very well imagine it being a great piece of intelligence misdirection if everyone is c...more
On the other hand, I can very well imagine it being a great piece of intelligence misdirection if everyone is c...more
Okay, so, first off, I am bias, and have to admit that. But, have to say, this book was FASCINATING. I only joined the intel community in 2005, so, can't speak to the accuracy of anything before that, but, can confirm that his coverage of everything since then is outrageously skewed. True, but skewed. Having said that, as a student of US foreign policy it was an incredibly interesting look at an entirely unexplored dimension of US policy. It put everything I studied in school in a new perspectiv...more
LEGACY OF ASHES: The History of the CIA
TIM WEINER
America’s foes and rivals have long overrated the CIA. When Henry Kissinger traveled to China in 1971, Prime Minister Chou En-lai asked about the CIA. Kissinger told Chou that he “vastly overestimates the competence of the CIA.” Chou persisted that “whenever something happens in the world they are always thought of.” Kissinger acknowledged, “That is true, and it flatters them, but they don’t deserve it.” “Legacy of Ashes” is a litany of failure....more
TIM WEINER
America’s foes and rivals have long overrated the CIA. When Henry Kissinger traveled to China in 1971, Prime Minister Chou En-lai asked about the CIA. Kissinger told Chou that he “vastly overestimates the competence of the CIA.” Chou persisted that “whenever something happens in the world they are always thought of.” Kissinger acknowledged, “That is true, and it flatters them, but they don’t deserve it.” “Legacy of Ashes” is a litany of failure....more
A five star topic, with five star research, does not a five star book make. I give Mr. Weiner one star for this 'book,' which is not a book at all. It is a collection of research notes that would be better titled "What the CIA did after the second world war to ruin the world for most people, including its own agents."
Though Weiner has done a great job of bringing them together, there's no 'organization' to the facts. The title of each chapter is a quote from someone taken from that chapter; eac...more
Though Weiner has done a great job of bringing them together, there's no 'organization' to the facts. The title of each chapter is a quote from someone taken from that chapter; eac...more
This book is a big bold project. Covering the history of this agency in this way might not be feasible for 550 pages.
The author discusses the shifting mission of the agency and the ongoing debate of spies vs. gadgets. He shows how the agency was not (always) rogue, since both Democratic and Republican presidents authorized some of its most controversial actions and lied about them.
Weiner shows how the CIA was founded to provide intelligence and analysis. Intelligence operations grew from droppin...more
The author discusses the shifting mission of the agency and the ongoing debate of spies vs. gadgets. He shows how the agency was not (always) rogue, since both Democratic and Republican presidents authorized some of its most controversial actions and lied about them.
Weiner shows how the CIA was founded to provide intelligence and analysis. Intelligence operations grew from droppin...more
A very well researched and referenced history of the CIA.
The only problem with this book was that it took me months to read, because I couldn't read more than a chapter or two at a time without getting incensed with the governmential incompetance and mismanagment that repeatedly undermined valiant efforts to establish a professional results-driven service.
We repeated the same bonehead actions, over and over again, with faithful and dedicated people needlessly getting killed in the process.
Don't...more
The only problem with this book was that it took me months to read, because I couldn't read more than a chapter or two at a time without getting incensed with the governmential incompetance and mismanagment that repeatedly undermined valiant efforts to establish a professional results-driven service.
We repeated the same bonehead actions, over and over again, with faithful and dedicated people needlessly getting killed in the process.
Don't...more
Relying on recently classified sources, and over 20 years' experience of reporting on national intelligence issues, Tim Weiner writes a caustic, corrosive, and highly critical view of the history of the CIA. Like most Americans, I know the CIA from what I have seen in the movies - the reality is much, much harder to believe; much, much more frightening, and all the more shocking because of the reliability and research of Mr. Weiner.
It took me a while to get used to the style of Mr. Weiner, and a...more
It took me a while to get used to the style of Mr. Weiner, and a...more
Legacy of Ashes documents what appears to be the perpetual failures and problems plaguing the American CIA. The book begins with the organization's foundings and leads through its current crisis. The author has done extensive research and gone through thousands of documents to disprove the statement "The CIA's failures are public and victories are private" and replace it with the much simpler "The CIA has almost always failed".
After the first few chapters, the book becomes somewhat depressing as...more
After the first few chapters, the book becomes somewhat depressing as...more
This explosive, Pulitzer Prize winning expose of the CIA is one of the most stunning books I have ever read. If there has been a botched coup, failed revoultion, political assasination, criminal enterprise, or inadequate intelligence anywhere in the world the chances are the CIA had its hands in it.
If you think the United States is safer because of the work of the Agency, think again. The CIA is a history of failed intelligence and failed covert operations that have destablized the world and mo...more
If you think the United States is safer because of the work of the Agency, think again. The CIA is a history of failed intelligence and failed covert operations that have destablized the world and mo...more
National Award
This book of course from the title one can tell is the history of the CIA. In this book it shows that a lot of the time the directors of the CIA leave that position with the CIA being in worse shape then when they first started there. This event can cause a problem with national security. The sole purpose of the CIA was also in this book. This book is not a short easy read. It is long but has detailed information that helps people understand the CIA more.
First off the title of this...more
This book of course from the title one can tell is the history of the CIA. In this book it shows that a lot of the time the directors of the CIA leave that position with the CIA being in worse shape then when they first started there. This event can cause a problem with national security. The sole purpose of the CIA was also in this book. This book is not a short easy read. It is long but has detailed information that helps people understand the CIA more.
First off the title of this...more
With the many tales of incompetence and blundering and bureaucratic wrangling, the biggest impression I took from this book was that the CIA was not the home of superslick superspies like James Bond. Rather it relied on and cultivated that image to enhance its influence. In reality its successes were few and far between, and its failures and deficiencies far more spectacular. The level of confidence among Presidents was often shaky as the Agency was on a seemingly endless journey to discover its...more
When we were in Antigua, Guatemala, a great while back trying to learn a little more Spanish and soaking up the culture, a couple of people pointed out a building--a compound, really--called The School of the Americas. They said it was a CIA front operation. At the time I semi-dismissed it as a romantic notion of gringo conspiracy. After reading Weiner’s meticulously documented and compellingly written Legacy of Ashes, I know that the CIA operated all over the world often with full knowledge of...more
This is a very interesting, no holds barred, unflinching look at the history of the CIA from cowboy post WWII days of William J. Donovan and his protégé Allen Dulles through the bloody lapses of the Cold War on through intelligence failures of Bin Laden and Iraq. The book brings us appropriately to the newly sculpted CIA under Porter Goss as the first Director of National Intelligence (DNI) and the last Director of Central Intelligence following the passage of the 2004 Intelligence Reform and Te...more
This gave a fascinating window into the inner operations of the CIA. This thorough book gives a blow-by-blow factual breakdown of the CIA through the years... and it isn't pretty. Despite saying the word "clandestine" in what felt like every other sentence, the book managed to keep my interest throughout the decades that it spanned.
I would be interested in reading a book with a more positive spin, if it exists, to be able to compare and contrast the way the information could be presented. The CI...more
I would be interested in reading a book with a more positive spin, if it exists, to be able to compare and contrast the way the information could be presented. The CI...more
Weiner, Tim. LEGACY OF ASHES: The History of the CIA. (2007). ****.
This book by Pulitzer-Prize-winning journalist Weiner went on to win the National Book Award in 2007. The very nature and depth of its subject guarantees that you will have a heavy tome on your hands. The author approaches the subject by examing the CIA and its activities under each president. You find that there is very little continuity in the organization itself. At last count, there have been nineteen directors of the organi...more
This book by Pulitzer-Prize-winning journalist Weiner went on to win the National Book Award in 2007. The very nature and depth of its subject guarantees that you will have a heavy tome on your hands. The author approaches the subject by examing the CIA and its activities under each president. You find that there is very little continuity in the organization itself. At last count, there have been nineteen directors of the organi...more
Well, I did not know much about the CIA and this book did not provide me any thing beyond what I already knew. I knew CIA was dysfunctional and inefficient. I knew CIA was full of liberal driven morons who take themselves seriously and probably don't care much about the interests of the country they serve (Check the recent Iran's NIE report for example). I also knew CIA's ability and power was exaggerated in the media and hollywood. What got me interested in this book was Tim Weiner's interview...more
Weiner, a journalist, has written a history of the Central Intelligence Agency from its origins up to 2007. More of the narrative is devoted to the earlier decades, which makes sense when one realizes from the asides in the text that sources on say, the Cuban Missile Crisis, were declassified only after the year 2000. The organization that is described is less a spy agency than a filibustering organization, devoted to overthrowing weak governments in poor companies, buying up politicians, setti
...more
This is a superbly reseached work and tales the shadowy tale of American foreign policy from the late 40's to the present day. But it is really a 700 page indictment of an example of how bad a government agency can be. The one thing the CIA did well was give money away, BILLIONS of dollars spent with a slim margin of return at best, a...nd at worse it became clear that the CIA had literally been conned out of hundreds of millions by other states and even individuals. But any work of journalism,...more
As long time Angelenos, we were certainly excited to receive our invitation to Taschen Books headquarters for the new release party for their latest coffee table opus `Los Angeles - Portrait of a City.' While partying with the Hollywood elite (Diane Keaton, Hugh Hefner, Jerry Bruckheimer, David LaChappell, Rodney Bingenheimer, various politicos, etc.) and being serenaded by hometown music from the Doors, Mamas and Papas, the Go-Go's and others, we celebrated the release of Jim Heimann and Kevin...more
Buku teranyar di rak buku. Buku ini bener-bener bikin orang makin ngetawain Amerika. Tadinya mau beli buku Negeri 5 Menara. Nyampe Gramedia langsung disambut pemandangan Buku Merah ini. Buku Tim Weiner ini menurut saya bukan hanya membongkar kegagalan CIA, tapi juga membuktikan kalo Hollywood adalah salah satu alat pencitraannya Amerika dan Zionis. Yah liat aja film-film mereka yg menampilkan tentang kinerja CIA, seolah-olah canggih dan wah banget dah CIA itu, padahal. Cocoklah buat temen ngeteh...more
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Tim Weiner has been a reported for the New York Times since 1993 as a foreign correspondent in Mexico and as a national security correspondent in Washington, DC. He won the 1988 Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting as an investigative reporter at the Philadelphia Inquirer for his articles on the black budget spending at the Pentagon and the CIA.
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