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On Late Style: Music and Literature Against the Grain

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In this fascinating book, Edward Said looks at the creative contradictions that often mark the late works of literary and musical artists. Said shows how the approaching death of an artist can make its way into his work, examining essays, poems, novels, films, and operas by such artists as Beethoven, Genet, Mozart, Lampedusa, Euripides, Cavafy, and Mann, among others. He u ...more
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Published December 10th 2008 by Vintage (first published 2006)
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Khawla Al jafari
Jun 18, 2017 Khawla Al jafari rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
في هذا الكتاب يتحدّث إدوارد سعيد عن اللحظة الثَّالِثَة التي تتشكَّل منها حياة المرء ؛ حين يبدأ الجسم بخيانة صاحبه باعتلاله وتردّيه ، عند تلك اللحظة تصبحُ استباقات الموت أكثر بروزًا ورقّة في التّعبيرات الفنية ( الموسيقيّة والشّعريّة ..) في تلك اللحظة يصبح سؤال المعنى أكثر إلحاحًا وأرقًا .
هل نصبحُ أكثر نضجًا عندما نتقدّم في العمر ؟ الإجابة ليست بهذه البداهة ..
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Johnny cash
في آخر أغانيه ومنها( Hurt )عبّر عن الأسلوب الأخير ؛ لوعة هائلة وتفجّع على فقدان الذّات قبل فقدانها .
John David
Edward Said, perhaps best known for “Orientalism,” one of the most-recognized and important contributions to post-colonial studies, wrote the essays in “On Late Style” shortly before his death. The sense of “lateness” – of mortality, of obsolescence – permeates them, and they cover everything from the music of Strauss, Mozart, and Beethoven, to the political activism of Jean Genet, to “Il Gattopardo” (as envisioned by both Lampedusa and Visconti). In many ways, this is Said’s last conversation w ...more
Mark
Jun 11, 2011 Mark rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
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From 2010 reading:I first read Said's On Late Style a few years ago, and returned to re-read it in light of some more recent publications. What is "lateness", as Said defines it? "Lateness" as a concept is not necessarily restricted to an artists's late compositions, but is rather a condition. Said challenges earlier definitions of lateness that focus on maturity and serenity, preferring rather to focus on style characterized by "intransigence, difficulty, and unresolved contradiction". Said tak ...more
Lobstergirl
Sep 27, 2012 Lobstergirl rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
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"Lateness" is an interesting prism through which to critically view an artist's works. I'm more familiar with lateness in Beethoven - the way the late piano sonatas, for example, are structurally, thematically, quite odd and different compared to the others. Maturity, senescence, decay, approaching death. (Death in Venice, which Said uses as one of his examples, is actually not a late work of Mann's, but the Britten opera based on it is a late work of Britten's.) These are separate essays previo ...more
Steven
Objective is the fractured landscape, subjective is the light in which – alone – it glows into life. He [the artist] does not bring about their harmonious synthesis. As the power of dissociation, he tears them apart in time, in order, perhaps, to preserve them for the eternal. In the history of art late works are the catastrophes. (160)
This is the notion of 'late style' that Said takes from Adorno and develops in his book On Late Style. Unfortunately, Said died passed away before he could finish
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Maz
Feb 18, 2017 Maz rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
أعجبني طرح فكرة ذاتية الأعمال المتأخرة للفنانين رغبةً في تخليدها بعمق وبُعدهم عن التقليد عند إحساسهم بقرب الموت.
Fahad Alqurain
Jun 25, 2016 Fahad Alqurain rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
حين تقرأ لإدوارد سعيد فأنت تقرأ كتاب عميق ومفيد .
هذا الكتاب فسحة في الموسيقى
Frank
Sep 23, 2016 Frank rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
This is a posthumously-published collection of essays. He was in the process of writing this book when he passed away on September 25, 2003 according to the forward, written by his wife Mariam.

The subject 'late style' refers to works produced by artists, musicians and authors near the end of their lives. Said has interesting things to observe, examine and discuss about these works, and what he finds is not the obvious -- reflections on mortality, the preciousness of life, fear of death, wonderin
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طاهر الزهراني
دائما عندما أقرأ إدوارد سعيد ..
أتصوره شجرة وارفة آلت إلى السقوط في وقت مبكر..
كم هذا يؤلمني..
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الكتاب يتحدث عن الأسلوب المتأخر، والمقصود به هو أسلوب المبدع المتأخر سواء كان موسيقيا أو مسرحيا أو روائيا، أو أي قالب إبداعي آخر، هو يتحدث عن النضج المتأخر الذي نلمسه في النصوص، أو كما يسميه هرمان بروش "أسلوب الشيخوخة" ذلك الأسلوب الذي يتفتح مع وطأة الموات الداهم، أو الذي يتجلى قبل دنو الكهولة أو الموت، بحيث يبلغ المبدع اوج إبداعه.
يذكر إدوارد سعيد في هذا الكتاب أن الأسلو المتأخر "له القوة على التعبير عن
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Chedy Riahi
May 03, 2015 Chedy Riahi rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
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شهرة إدوارد سعيد في البلدان العربية متعلقة خاصة بمواقفه من القضية الفلسطينية والإستشراق وبدرجة أقل "الثقافة والإمبريالية"، لكنه معروف عالمياً خاصة بكونه ناقدا. وهنا ينتزل كتاب "عن الأسلوب المتأخر: موسيقى وأدب ضد التيار"، وهو منقوص لأن سعيد توفي ولم يكمله.

الأسلوب المتأخر يعتني بالأدب والموسيقى المنتجة في الفترات الأخيرة من الحياة، والتي يبرهن إدوارد سعيد على أنها غالبا ما تكون "ضد التيار"، بل تكون أحيانا معارضة تماما لتوجهات الكاتب أو الملحن. الاعتناء بالموسيقى هنا في آخر أعمال إدوارد سعيد كالخات
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Hazem Barakat
Nov 03, 2015 Hazem Barakat rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
"إن أي أسلوب فني يتضمن باديء بدء علاقة الفنان بزمانه، فالنتاج الجمالي، على الرغم من فرديته غير القابلة للنقض، يبقى جزءا من العصر الذي أنتجه وصدر فيه، هكذا عبر موزارت في موسيقاه عن أسلوب أوثق ارتباطا بعوالم البلاط والكيسة من بيتهوفن أوفاغنر، وكلاهما صادر عن بيئة علمانية شديدة الارتباط بالعبادة الرومانسية للإبداع الفردي".
يناقش إدوارد سعيد ما يسميه الأسلوب المتأخر للفنان أو الأديب عند اقتراب نهاية حياته، خروجه عن المقبول والمألوف، عناده في خلق تناقض بلا حل ضد المجتمع والمفاهيم كمعركة أخرى في صراعه
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It is as sam a as Said's valuable books, and I think we need to apply this great notion of lateness in our cultural productions in order to examine them profoundly by asking how books, or other sorts of culture's productions reflect our time and place's issues in one sense. From another side, we have to investigate the validity of the works of the the writers who write at the late of their life inconsistently with their own previous work in terms of style, structure of the work, and themes as we
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Lorraine
Apr 23, 2011 Lorraine rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I was initially unimpressed -- waiting for the 'oomph' which exists in essays by Adorno and company -- and not finding it. But this collection is remarkably lucid, and definitely worth a read based on its interesting ideas and its emphasis on belatedness. It was very very late night reading for me, so I'm afraid I can't do it justice -- but I was determined to give Mozart a try, after reading his essay on Cosi Fan Tutte. The essay on Glenn Gould is, too, an incredible piece I think, with many ob ...more
Night RPM
Jan 04, 2011 Night RPM rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
For me, this is the seminal text of the last decade, on criticism. The best thing about it? No need to read Adorno to brush up on the late style theory. After reading this book, you will want to lose yourself in the late Mozart operas, Richard Strauss, Cavafy, Glenn Gould recordings, di Lampedusa, Jean Genet, etc. etc. etc. ....
Rob
Aug 27, 2008 Rob rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
said's elegy to adorno and himself. a couple of beautiful essays on glenn gould and adorno's concept of late style. feels a bit patched together because it was, as said didn't finish it before he died.
Jessie
Sep 20, 2012 Jessie rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The last chapter was definitely my favorite
jordan
Jun 07, 2007 jordan rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The chapter on Genet is the most helpful to my work; for the other chapters I was just along for the [have to take your word for it] ride.
Ed
Dec 30, 2007 Ed rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Disappointing work that is bitty and not a really coherent set of insights.
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(Arabic profile: إدوارد سعيد)

Edward W. Said was born in Jerusalem and raised in Egypt until his parents sent him to the United States in 1951.

Said graduated from Princeton University in 1957 and earned his Ph.D. from Harvard University in 1964.

He was a professor of English and Comparative Literature at Columbia University in New York and held his chair until his death at 67. His major interests
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