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On the Advantage and Disadvantage of History for Life

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(Part II of Thoughts Out of Season)

"Moreover I hate everything which merely instructs me without increasing or directly quickening my activity.” These are Goethe’s words with which, as with a boldly expressed ceterum censeo, we may begin our consideration of the worth and worthlessness of history. Our aim will be to show why instruction which fails to quicken activity, why
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Paperback, 70 pages
Published June 15th 1980 by Hackett Pub Co (first published April 1st 1874)
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peiman-mir5 rezakhani
دوستانِ گرانقدر، علاوه بر اینکه با برخی از سخنانِ <نیچه> در این کتاب و در موردِ تاریخ مخالف هستم، متأسفانه ترجمهٔ کتاب به زبانِ فارسی، اصلاً روان و خوش فهم نبود و من به یاد دارم که زمانِ زیادی را صرفِ خواندنِ این کتاب کردم ... مترجمانِ این کتاب تا جایی که میتوانستند از واژه های قلمبه و سلمبهٔ عربی و کلماتِ بی معنی و بی مفهومِ تازیان برایِ ترجمهٔ این کتاب، استفاده کرده اند
دوستانِ عزیزم، این کتاب به طور کلی به سه بخش تقسیم شده است.. در این کتاب <نیچه> زندگی را بر تاریخ مقدم میشمارد و ز
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Steve
On the Usefulness and Disadvantage of History for Life

Between 1872, when his first book Die Geburt der Tragödie appeared, and 1876, when he left the University of Basel to write in Italy, Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) wrote an enormous amount of prose, most of which he did not bring to a satisfactory completion. However, he did publish, singly, a series of short books/pamphlets he called Unzeitgemässe Betrachtungen (Untimely Considerations), which at one point he had projected to include
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Sunny
Apr 22, 2016 Sunny rated it it was amazing
I had totally forgotten what it was like to read some Neechy and now I remember what it was that I loved about reading his stuff. It’s like an alien mentality. Some of the points he makes and his insights into human nature seem as though they come from an alien that has been secretly observing us for a few hundred years. This book is about the burden with which we transpose the lessons and the fetters of history into our reality today. His point is that the real superman is the iconoclast who ca ...more
Matthew W
Apr 24, 2010 Matthew W rated it it was amazing
This short booklet (basically a pamphlet) was one of Nietzsche's early writings before he became The Anti-Christ and contracted a bad case of megalomania where he would sign his letters to people as "The Crucified." The title "On the Advantage and Disadvantage of History for Life" summarizes Nietzsche's thesis with this work. Nietzsche criticizes the Germany of his time as without culture and lacking instinct, a place where a sick soulless inwardness prevails and a synthetic pseudo-kultur disgui ...more
Chrissy
Oct 16, 2013 Chrissy rated it really liked it
Shelves: philosophy
My first foray into Nietzsche has left me shaken to the core.

For better or worse, he was an expert rhetorician; even as one shudders to recognize the seeds of justification for later historical atrocities in his philosophies, one cannot help but feel enamoured by his prose and the undeniable style of his arguments. So many times I gave audible way to awe, reluctantly putting the book down to copy some choice phrases into a notebook.

To my view, this essay was a call to action for generations stuc
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Justin Evans
Oct 21, 2009 Justin Evans rated it did not like it
Shelves: philosophy

One star's a bit harsh. Popular history can still be understood in terms of the categories he comes up with here: all the biographies of Churchill and Reagan? Lifeless monumental history. The obsession with Americana and 'authentic,' 'simple' living? Lifeless antiquarianism. Post-colonial/post-structuralist/post-modernist history? Lifeless critical history.

But then, Nietzsche was harsh, and it's only fair to be harsh back.

He describes three types of historiography- 'monumental' history, which
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Kyle van Oosterum
Sep 01, 2015 Kyle van Oosterum rated it really liked it
Shelves: philosophy
In this book, Nietzsche laments over a condition that he is finding in the youth of Germany: they are lacking a personality. They have an encyclopedic knowledge of everything and are chained to the past. "The past must be forgotten if it is not to become the gravedigger of the present", he says. He identifies five problems that excess history presents for living a good life:

1. Excess of a contrast between the inside and the outside. We have far too much content and too little form to present it
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Naele
نیچه
درجه ای از بی خوابی از نشخوار کردن به مفهوم تاریخی وجود دارد که به هر موجود زنده ای صدمه می زند و در نهایت آن را تباه می سازد خواه انسان باشد، خواه جماعتی از انسان ها خواه یک فرهنگ.

دیوید هیوم
آنچه لحظات اولیه زندگی نمی توانند به ما ارزانی دارند چگونه می توان از لحظات دیگر ما بقی حیات انتظار داشت.

نیچه
از آنجا که ما نتیجه نسل های قبل هستیم، نتیجه انحرافات، شهوات، خطایا و حتی جنایت های آنها نیز هستیم به هیچ وجه امکان رهایی کامل از این زنجیره وجود ندارد.
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فقط شخصیت های نیرومند در مقابل تاریخ دوام
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Dylan Grant
Every time I read a book by Nietzsche my mind gets blown and I feel more enlightened. In a mere 60 pages or so Nietzsche totally annihilates Hegelianism and the education system. The thesis of the book is that in our time Knowledge rules Life, and this will result in the end of both Knowledge and Living. Instead, we must consider Life to be the ultimate value and the thing in which our youth should be skilled.

This is by far the most accessible book by this author I have ever read, so don't be d
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Darthnixa
Apr 08, 2015 Darthnixa rated it really liked it
Nietzsche wonders about humanity's penchant for keeping history; if it is beneficial, harmful, or both. Also, he warns against the glorification of history, which is especially interesting seeing as he wrote it in late 19th century Germany.
Luka Antonić
Jun 17, 2013 Luka Antonić rated it really liked it
Rano Ničeovo djelo o istoriji podstaknuto je ujedinjenjem Njemačke, potragom za njemačkim nacionalnim identitetom, a samim tim i tadašnjom preokupiranošću istorijom. Niče ne piše klasičnu filozofiju istorije; on piše nesavremenu filozofiju tragajući za vezom između istorije i života.

Čitanje jednog ovakvog teksta pruža posebno zadovoljstvo, jer je napisano prije Ničeove nervne rastrojenosti i sloma, ali sadrži naznake ideja koje će poslije razraditi u poznatijim djelima. Najzanimljiviji dio rela
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ZaRi
ما امروزی ها هیچ چیز از خود نداریم؛ فقط با پُر کردن و انباشتن خودمان از دانش، ادیان، فلسفه ها، هنرها، رسوم و اعصار بیگانه چون دایرة المعارف متحرک چیزی قابل اعتنا می شویم!
به هرحال تمام ارزش دایرة المعارف ها در محتوای آنهاست نه بر عناوین نوشته شده بر روی آنها یا جلد و پوست آنها... و بنابراین تمام فرهنگ مدرن اساسا درونی است و صحّاف روی کتاب چیزی شبیه این نوشته است: دستورالعمل فرهنگ درونی برای وحشیان بیرونی!

Eric Phetteplace
Apr 02, 2009 Eric Phetteplace rated it it was amazing
Shelves: philosophy
Great pamphlet, a lesser known work of Nietzsche's which (I think...) is rather early in his oeuvre. The rhetoric is as potent as ever, though it actually gets really muddled at parts in a way that is unlike anything I've encountered in Nietzsche up til now. I still think it's high-quality, brushes over some of his major concerns (the morbidity of Christianity, the way someone's drives become self-destructive when filtered through too much analysis / lost in semantics) but is an altogether diffe ...more
Jeremy
Nov 19, 2009 Jeremy rated it it was ok
Oh god this was fun. Nietzsche's confrontational writing style is such a breath of fresh air compared to so much of pre-20th century German philosophical writing. There are a lot of really good observations crammed into this small piece. The recognition that people often fetishize the past as a way of condemning the skills and talents of their own time, the ways that Christian millenarian beliefs stifle personal creativity and expression. But my favorite thing about this text is how he shows tha ...more
Scott Kleinpeter
I read (or, I at least think I read this: for, honestly, does any one really read anything as an undergraduate?) this in a philosophy of history class. At the time, I only partly knew what was going on (I do remember an insult directed towards Hegel {is it possible to really understand what was going on without having done necessary cultural background reading on Nietzche and his time? This is a work of intellectual criticism as much as it is philosoph}).

Now that I'm older, I think I have a sen
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Melencolia1
Jun 30, 2015 Melencolia1 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Tarihin bizi yenmesindense, bizim tarihi dizginlememiz gerekir. Tarihi süslerden arındırmamız ve her süsün süsleneni sakladığını, fazlalıkların zorunluluklara düşman olduğunu unutmamamız yeni bir tarih araştırması için gereklidir.

Yine tüm uydurmalara ve abartılara karşı çıkıyor ve süslerin içerisinden hakikati bulmakla meşgul oluyor Nietzsche.
Ninja Time
Jan 06, 2008 Ninja Time rated it it was amazing
If memory serves me well, I believe Nietzsche wrote this when he was 24 or 27. I remember he was pretty young and wow, what a brain he had on him. The most optimistic work as well as some of the most insightful observation on the concept of information and history.
Matthew Tucker
Sep 29, 2008 Matthew Tucker rated it it was amazing
This book is frightening. I think the intended reading from Nietzsche is some sort of prophylactic strike against the emergent historical materialist trend which (arguably) Nietzsche saw around him leading up to his death. In a way, it's Nietzsche trying to kill Marx before he was ever born.
Erik Graff
May 09, 2009 Erik Graff rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: everyone
Recommended to Erik by: Hans Seigfried
Shelves: philosophy
I'd read most of Nietzsche's important works before enrolling in Hans Seigfried's course so I used it as an occasion to cover some of the more obscure stuff such as this little essay about the political and ideological manipulation of "history".
Dan
Aug 27, 2007 Dan added it
Great little book in its own right, but I didn't really get what was at stake in it for Nietzsche until I'd read Genealogy of Morals.
Gazelle
I would recommend this book to the ones who holds a prejudice obsession over history.
Andrew
Dec 14, 2007 Andrew rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Possibly the most important thing I've ever read for sorting out that demon known as nostalgia, and for knowing when people are tugging on your heartstrings with glorified histories.
Johannes
Oct 10, 2007 Johannes rated it it was amazing
File this under "The wonderful things that happen when brilliant philosophers engage a single question as opposed to trying to describe everything or establish first principles for everything"
Tam Nguyen
Apr 05, 2015 Tam Nguyen rated it it was amazing
The only and truly "self-help" book that I ever encounter!
Daniela
Oct 25, 2015 Daniela rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 2015, reviewed, philosophy
Natürlich etwas eindimensional und typisch Nietzsche anti-Menschen, aber in dieser Dimension umso facettenreicher. Sehr interessante Gedankenspiele.

Nietzsche setzt sich damit auseinander, inwiefern der Einfluss von Historie unser Leben im Augenblick beeinflusst. Das Rückblicken und mit sich Herumtragen der Vergangenheit lähmt uns im Heute und Jetzt.
Die Vergangenheit, die Nietzsche hier anspricht, ist vor allem die geschichtliche, also die großen historischen Ereignisse.
Er prangert die deutsch
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Julia
Feb 22, 2017 Julia rated it really liked it
I had totally forgotten what it was like to read some Neechy and now I remember what it was that I loved about reading his stuff. It’s like an alien mentality. Some of the points he makes and his insights into human nature seem as though they come from an alien that has been secretly observing us for a few hundred years
Joseph R.
Feb 09, 2016 Joseph R. rated it liked it
Shelves: philosophy, read_2016
Friedrich Nietzsche's early work on the value of studying history balances between a pure, theoretical understanding and the then-contemporary understanding of history. When this was published in 1874, Germany was proud of its historical understanding of itself and the thorough education it provided to the general populace. According to Nietzsche, the predominant theory was Hegel's dialectic, where the World Spirit moves humanity through many stages of conflict, gradually improving human welfare ...more
Satyajeet
Apr 15, 2016 Satyajeet rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
But every people, indeed every person, who wishes to become mature needs such an enveloping delusion, such a protecting and veiling cloud. But today people generally despise becoming mature, because they honour history more than living. Indeed, people exult over the fact that now "science is beginning to rule over living." It is possible that people will attain that goal but it is certain that a life so governed is not worth much, because it is much less living and it establishes a life for the ...more
Sheldon L
Aug 02, 2011 Sheldon L rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Stunning critique of how history functions self-consciously. Is it art or science? If it's art, how can it be meaningful? If it's science, how can we use cause and effect since no two events are alike!?

As usual, Nietzsche takes on a nuanced, textured perspective on the use and abuse of history for life. He critiques the over-saturation of history in his (and consequently our) society. We learn way too much way too fast at school... our kids can't digest all the discrete info stuffed into them th
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Luke Crawford
Dec 11, 2016 Luke Crawford rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
So, I read this for school, and eh, I need a lot more practice reading for school. I think that a lot of school is adjusting your arrogance, that is, adjusting what is "true" to fit what the class/teacher thinks is true.

And yes, some of this is clearly bullshit, but of course a big part of learning is accepting that your knowledge may be incorrect... but mostly, I think, this is training for the real world where sometimes you need to go along with something that is obviously stupid... and where
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Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (1844–1900) is a German philosopher of the late 19th century who challenged the foundations of Christianity and traditional morality. He was interested in the enhancement of individual and cultural health, and believed in life, creativity, power, and the realities of the world we live in, rather than those situated in a world beyond. Central to his philosophy is the ide ...more
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