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After an interval of some months or years, and at Phlius, a town of Peloponnesus, the tale of the last hours of Socrates is narrated to Echecrates and other Phliasians by Phaedo the 'beloved disciple.' The Dialogue necessarily takes the form of a narrative, because Socrates has to be described acting as well as speaking. The minutest particulars of the event are interestin ...more
Paperback, French edition; reproduction, 284 pages
Published February 23rd 2010 by Nabu Press (first published -385)
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Steve
Phaedo is the final part of Plato's (427-347 BCE) trilogy about the trial and death of his teacher, Socrates (469-399 BCE), and is preceded by the Apology and Crito . The Apology is a riveting account of Socrates' defense against the charges, his reaction to the verdict, and then his reaction to the sentence. Crito is a moving account of his reaction to an opportunity to escape his sentence. (I've written reviews for these in GR, if you're curious.) In this dialogue Plato has a young fr ...more
Ken Moten
Jan 25, 2015 Ken Moten rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: those who read philosophy
"Such was the end of our comrade...a man who, we must say, was of all those we have known the best, and also the wisest and the most upright."

The grand finale of the wise man of Athens. This was Plato's account of Socrates last hours before his death. One has to say that while the Apology is the most "pop-friendly" of the Socratic dialogues, Phaedo is the greatest, personal, and most human of them all.

We are taught two things in this dialogue that have both set the tone of western philosophy (
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Bruce
Actually, I read the Grube translation and found it excellent.

This is the dialogue containing the description of Socrates’ last discussion with his disciples and of his death. It is related by Phaedo, who was with Socrates during these events, to Echecrates, who was not. The discussion begins with Socrates’ reflections on opposites, such as pleasure and pain, that define each other. This reflection is used to initiate a discussion on the nature of the soul and the nature of death, it being Socra
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David Sarkies
Apr 18, 2014 David Sarkies rated it 2 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Classical Scholars
Recommended to David by: David Hester
Shelves: philosophy
Plato on life after death
26 October 2012

I have noticed that a number of people consider that this text is the crowning piece that defines the Western philosophical method. In a way I agree and in a way I disagree. In one sense one can see how the idea of the separation of the body and the soul has come down to us and which has formed a major part of Western spiritual thought and in turn forms one of the bases of what I tend to term as our civil religion. However there are two things that it is
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One of the foundational documents of Western civilization--and when I say that, I mean civilization. Of course, the arguments are all horrible, and Plato probably was well-aware of that, given his history of irony/playfulness in the Apologia.

This was slow and tedious for me, as I'd already heard all the arguments in various philosophy courses, yet hadn't read the original text. It was still worth reading to get all the details. All of Socrates' life and all of Plato's life is up to scrutiny her
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Jesse
The Phaedo, though on the surface concerned with the immortality of the soul, also contains a very interesting explication of the theory of recollection, first brought forward in the Meno, as well as the closest Plato ever gets to both explaining his theory of forms and saying that God is an immaterial mind. The theory of recollection tells us that, when we see two equal objects, we know that the two are equal not in virtue of their actual equality, since they aren't actually equal, but in virtu ...more
Marts  (Thinker)
Socrates' last discussion before being executed as recorded by Plato from the perspective of Socrates' former students, Phaedo...
The discussion expounds on the afterlife and the soul's immortality to which he presents four arguments:
1. Argument from Opposites - i.e. a perpetual cycle of life and death, when we die we do not stay dead, but come back to life after a time.
2. Theory of Recollection - i.e. learning is actually recollecting what is already known
3. Argument from Affinity - i.e. there
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Cassandra Kay Silva
Thank goodness Plato idealized Socrates so much otherwise so much about him would have been lost. I kind of put off reading this one because I knew that it dealt with death and the human soul, which is a subject that hangs over my head on occasion. Big mistake! This was as wonderful as Plato's other works, I always give Socrates this kind of saucy attitude in my mind, he is so quick! I wonder how much of this was actually said or what just carried over from other discussions with Socrates during ...more
Garrett Cash
An interesting work, and it's quite easy to see how it has influenced Western thought for thousands of years, but it is purely speculation. As a Christian who believes that the body and soul are not forever separated (see 1 Corinthians 15), I have the distinct advantage of hindsight and knowledge of Jesus Christ that 'Socrates' (or Plato) of course did not. So I thoroughly admire and commend 'Socrates's' efforts in trying to logically reason out the nature of the body and soul as being quite wis ...more
Thomas
A very readable and reliable translation from Brann, Kalkavage and Salem. Terms are translated consistently, and the glossary is a useful guide to understanding both the etymology of the words translated and the ways in which Plato uses the terms, as well as related terms. (Explaining in a succinct way the relation and differences between Being [ousia], beings [ta onta], the Forms [eide], and "looks" [idea] is not easy, and here it is necessarily over-simplified, but the glossary entry can be he ...more
Genni
Good stuff. What I find interesting here are some of the thoughts that melded so well with Christianity later on. Denying the physical pleasures of the body to discover spiritual truths is a wonderful ideal, yet if not tempered by the message of grace from the New Testament can lead to extremes in self-denial.

The final point of the dialogue was to prove the immortality of the soul. After several attempts by argument, he resorts to mythology to explain his belief. Indeed, it is difficult when dis
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Cheryl
The Phaedo is set on the final day of Socrates' life. Instead of the question and answer format that leads to perplexity, Socrates is trying to prove a point about what happens to the soul after death. He is trying to prove that the soul is immortal, and he is attempting to comfort his students who are grieving his imminent death.

The soul must have a destiny other than the body which decays and is of the earth. The soul has a place to go after death, because it is connected with the forms which
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Yann
Il n'était pas inutile de relire ce dialogue, habituellement présenté avec "l'Apologie de Socrate" et "Criton". Ce dialogue est l'un des plus célèbre du fameux philosophe athénien. Il relate la mort de Socrate, condamné à boire la ciguë par un jugement l'ayant accusé d'impiété et de corruption de la jeunesse. Profitant d'un sursis dû à un pèlerinage commémorant l'époque de Thésée, ses amis le retrouvent dans sa prison, et profitent des derniers instants en sa compagnie pour philosopher sur la mo ...more
Axel Shut
Nel "Simposio", dopo che tutti hanno esposto le loro teorie sull'amore, arriva Alcibiade ubriaco che fa una piazzata a Socrate. "Ma cosa devo fare con te, perché non mi ami? Io ti invito a cena, faccio ginnastica con te, abbiamo pure fatto la guerra insieme." Nel "Fedone" invece, dopo aver lungamente dimostrato che il corpo non vale niente, conta solo l'anima immortale eccetera Critone domanda a Socrate "Cosa dobbiamo farne del tuo cadavere?" e l'altro risponde "Vedo che tutto il discorso finora ...more
Alberto
At one point, Plato has Socrates reasoning by analogy between the following two situations to conclude that the soul is immortal:

• The number 3, while not defined exclusively by its oddness, contains oddness as an essential property and therefore does not admit of coexistence with evenness. (That is, if 3 were to become even, it would cease to be 3.)

• The soul, while not defined exclusively by its provision of life, contains this provision of life as an essential property and therefore does not
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Bri
In my mind there are 3 Socratic Dialogues which I categorize as the "Death Dialogues." These are the Apology, Crito, and Phaedo.

In some ways the Phaedo is the darkest of the three, as it is in this dialogue that Socrates is actually executed. The meat of the dialogue takes place minutes before he drinks the hemlock. People talk about Ancient Greek philosophy as being "cold." I think by this they mean that Plato, at least, seems quite fixated on reason (logos) and moderation and bereft of emotio
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بسام عبد العزيز
لم أقتنع! ببساطة لم أقتنع بأي شئ!
المحاورة تحاول تأكيد فكرة خلود الروح.. لكنها نسيت أن تؤكد شيئا مهما .. هل الروح أصلا موجودة؟!

أفلاطون يفترض ضمنيا أن المحيطين مقتنعون بوجود ما يطلق عليه "الروح".. و بغض النظر عن اقتناعي الشخصي فعندما أقرأ كتاب فلسفي يحاول تأكيد فكرة مثل خلود الروح فأنا أنتظر منه أن يمنحني ما يكفي من أدلة أولا على وجود الروح ثانيا على وجود الخلود ثالثا على خلود الروح!

لكن لا نجد أي دليل في المحاورة على وجود ما يدعى بالروح.. أما وجود الخلود فالمحاورة تتحدث عن نظرية المثل وهى التي تشم
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Frank Della Torre
The last day of Socrates's life:

Phaedo opens with Echecrates asking Phaidon to recite from memory the last day of Socrates’s life. As Phaidon explains, a small number of his followers sat with Socrates on that eventful day and discussed the soul and death before he was put to death by the Athenian government. As his followers gathered around his prison cell, Socrates says that a truly wise man will not fear death, but that he would never commit suicide. To Socrates, humans are a property of the
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Realini
Phaedo by Plato

When I was about eighteen, I had the extraordinary chance to read Plato. It was stunning and it even helped with connecting with a couple of gorgeous blondes. A tiny little bit of the wit of Plato rubbed off on me and the blondes were so impressed with Plato that we hit it off.
Reading about the wisest man of Antiquity and his modesty was fabulous. Why was he the wisest? Because he never pretended to know what he did not know. And that is what most of the Athenians were doing and w
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Harrison
This reads like a much later work in Plato's dialogues from the three (Eurthyphro, Apology, Crito) which precede it- one which comes across as strange and bitter and I am in conflict in how I feel about Phaedo.

Plato takes care to show how Socrates was a lover of argument and discussion, one interested in Truth itself and not merely the satisfaction of agreement, even until his final afternoon although Plato has apparently installed into this scenario his own metaphysical assumptions, some of wh
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Phil Calandra
I read the kindle version of "Phaedo". "Phaedo", which is a depiction of the death of Socrates, is one of the dialogues written by Plato. In this dialogue, Socrates discusses the nature of the afterlife on his last day before his execution. One of the major themes of "Phaedo" is the idea of the immortality of the soul and Soctrates offers several arguments (Doctrine of Reminiscence, Doctrine of Opposites, Doctrine of Knowledge and Recollection, etc.) to support this contention. This translation ...more
♥Meagan♥
I had a lot of issues understanding this book in a few ways. It was for my Literature and the Occult class and I don't really understand how it will fit into that.

I'm also not a very big fan of philosophy, and especially Plato, but college told me I had to read it, so I did. :p
Travis
Interesting read of the ancient philosophers. I was surprised that they discerned so much truth from logical argument. A beneficial book if read from the right perspective.
Sylvain
Socrates is a dick. He likes to hear himself talk even more than I do. That's probably why they killed him. It was the only way to get him to shut the fuck up.
Michael
metaphors: body as lyre, soul as harmony; a weaver outlived by his last cloak; living one's life on the ocean floor, then coming to the surface.
Hans
Greek man makes convincing argument about not being afraid of death so you can be a noble wasp, or ant
Jane
So far the most interesting of Plato's works.
James
Philosophical Method: 4.5

Philosophical Conclusions: 2 and 5

Composite Score: 3.5



Plato's Phaedo deserves its status as a classic. Typical in its lively, Socratic dialectic that I love so much, Plato delivers some strike-outs, and one shining jewel in the rough.



The Socratic method is almost flawless. It is based upon the idea of collectively asking questions about an idea, working through the logic of it via assenting or dissenting examples, and basing any conclusions only from the standpoints of s
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Galicius
"...we have found that the soul is immortal, and so her only refuge and salvation from evil is to become as perfect and wise as possible. For she takes nothing with her to the other world but her education and culture; and these, it is said are of the greatest service or of the greatest injury to the dead man at the very beginning of his journey thither." LVII



This review only summarizes Plato’s argument and does not attempt to analyze it. Beginning of the argument:

Plato’s dialogue Phaedo assumes
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Celeste Batchelor
This dialog is longer and is the story of Socrates facing death, and finally taking the poison in prison, surrounded by his friends. The conversation has many interesting subjects, including the existence of the soul and whether it lives on without the body. Many conclusions are correct and many are incorrect. It is truly sad that they did not have scriptures by which to learn the truths that they sought. Rather they leaned unto their own understanding, which had fallacies amongst the truths.

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Plato is a Classical Greek philosopher, mathematician, student of Socrates, writer of philosophical dialogues, and founder of the Academy in Athens, the first institution of higher learning in the Western world. Along with his mentor, Socrates, and his student, Aristotle, Plato helped to lay the foundations of Western philosophy and science.

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“if you are willing to reflect on the courage and moderation of other people, you will find them strange...they all consider death a great evil...and the brave among them face death, when they do, for fear of greater evils...therefore, it is fear and terror that make all men brave, except for philosophers. yet it is illogical to be brave through fear and cowardice...what of the moderate among them? is their experience not similar?...they master certain pleasures because they are mastered by others...i fear this is not the right exchange to attain virtue, to exchange pleasures for pleasures, pains for pains, and fears for fears, the greater for the less like coins, but that they only valid currency for which all these things should be exchanged is wisdom.” 17 likes
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