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After an interval of some months or years, and at Phlius, a town of Peloponnesus, the tale of the last hours of Socrates is narrated to Echecrates and other Phliasians by Phaedo the 'beloved disciple.' The Dialogue necessarily takes the form of a narrative, because Socrates has to be described acting as well as speaking. The minutest particulars of the event are interestin ...more
Paperback, French edition; reproduction, 284 pages
Published February 23rd 2010 by Nabu Press (first published -380)
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Manny
Celebrity Death Match Special: Plato's Phaedo versus Philip José Farmer's To Your Scattered Bodies Go

[Riverworld. Night. Numerous people are gathered around a campfire, including RICHARD BURTON, ALICE PLEASANCE LIDDELL, PLATO, BENJAMIN JOWETT, DANTE, DAVID HUME and FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE. BURTON is addressing the others.]

BURTON: ... And for tonight's entertainment, as a unique favor, Plato has consented to perform for us Phaedo, his justly celebrated account of the death of Socrates. Professor Jowe
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Κωνσταντινος Οδυσσεως
Το διαβάζω απο εκδόσεις βιβλιοπωλίον της Έστιας σε μεταφραση Ιωάννη Πετράκη.
Steve
Sep 07, 2013 Steve rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: greek, philosophy
Phaedo is the final part of Plato's (427-347 BCE) trilogy about the trial and death of his teacher, Socrates (469-399 BCE), and is preceded by the Apology and Crito . The Apology is a riveting account of Socrates' defense against the charges, his reaction to the verdict, and then his reaction to the sentence. Crito is a moving account of his reaction to an opportunity to escape his sentence. (I've written reviews for these in GR, if you're curious.) In this dialogue Plato has a young fr ...more
Nikos Tsentemeidis
Το έργο του Πλάτωνα είναι μια πραγματεία "Περί ψυχής". Το θεωρώ ανώτερο του αντίστοιχου του Αριστοτέλη, αν και δηλώνω προτίμηση στον δεύτερο. Δεν παύει βέβαια να πραγματεύεται ένα θέμα μακράν ξεπερασμένο, για μένα, για το τι συμβαίνει στην ψυχή μετά το θάνατο ή πριν την γέννηση. Παρ' όλα αυτά, όπως όλοι οι πλατωνικοί διάλογοι, πολύ ευχάριστος.
Ken Moten
Aug 17, 2015 Ken Moten rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: those who read philosophy
"Such was the end of our comrade...a man who, we must say, was of all those we have known the best, and also the wisest and the most upright."

The grand finale of the wise man of Athens. This was Plato's account of Socrates last hours before his death. One has to say that while the Apology is the most "pop-friendly" of the Socratic dialogues, Phaedo is the greatest, personal, and most human of them all.

We are taught two things in this dialogue that have both set the tone of western philosophy (
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Naim AlKalantani
Jiwa. Socrates bercerita mengenai jiwa. Paling aku tertarik ialah dengan masalah 1+2
David Sarkies
Oct 15, 2015 David Sarkies rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Classical Scholars
Recommended to David by: David Hester
Shelves: philosophy
Plato on life after death
26 October 2012

I have noticed that a number of people consider that this text is the crowning piece that defines the Western philosophical method. In a way I agree and in a way I disagree. In one sense one can see how the idea of the separation of the body and the soul has come down to us and which has formed a major part of Western spiritual thought and in turn forms one of the bases of what I tend to term as our civil religion. However there are two things that it is
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Bruce
Dec 06, 2010 Bruce rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Actually, I read the Grube translation and found it excellent.

This is the dialogue containing the description of Socrates’ last discussion with his disciples and of his death. It is related by Phaedo, who was with Socrates during these events, to Echecrates, who was not. The discussion begins with Socrates’ reflections on opposites, such as pleasure and pain, that define each other. This reflection is used to initiate a discussion on the nature of the soul and the nature of death, it being Socra
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SS
Apr 25, 2010 SS rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: philosophy
One of the foundational documents of Western civilization--and when I say that, I mean civilization. Of course, the arguments are all horrible, and Plato probably was well-aware of that, given his history of irony/playfulness in the Apologia.

This was slow and tedious for me, as I'd already heard all the arguments in various philosophy courses, yet hadn't read the original text. It was still worth reading to get all the details. All of Socrates' life and all of Plato's life is up to scrutiny her
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Jesse
Nov 07, 2012 Jesse rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
The Phaedo, though on the surface concerned with the immortality of the soul, also contains a very interesting explication of the theory of recollection, first brought forward in the Meno, as well as the closest Plato ever gets to both explaining his theory of forms and saying that God is an immaterial mind. The theory of recollection tells us that, when we see two equal objects, we know that the two are equal not in virtue of their actual equality, since they aren't actually equal, but in virtu ...more
Yann
Jul 23, 2011 Yann rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Il n'était pas inutile de relire ce dialogue, habituellement présenté avec "l'Apologie de Socrate" et "Criton". Ce dialogue est l'un des plus célèbre du fameux philosophe athénien. Il relate la mort de Socrate, condamné à boire la ciguë par un jugement l'ayant accusé d'impiété et de corruption de la jeunesse. Profitant d'un sursis dû à un pèlerinage commémorant l'époque de Thésée, ses amis le retrouvent dans sa prison, et profitent des derniers instants en sa compagnie pour philosopher sur la mo ...more
Hannah
Oct 18, 2015 Hannah rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Phaedo would have been much easier to understand if he communicated with someone who had more brain capacity than a chestnut.

In summary:
Socrates: Bla bla bla!
Cebes and Simmias: But why do you think that!?
Socrates: Poop bla bla bla!
Cebes and Simmias: Oh.....but what about goop de floop?
Socrates: No! No goop de floop! Poop bla bla bla!
Cebes and Simmas: Oh.... okay.
Socrates: Do you understand?
Cebes and Simmas: No...we don't want to offend you because you're about to die.
Socrates: I WANT to talk abo
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Cassandra Kay Silva
Thank goodness Plato idealized Socrates so much otherwise so much about him would have been lost. I kind of put off reading this one because I knew that it dealt with death and the human soul, which is a subject that hangs over my head on occasion. Big mistake! This was as wonderful as Plato's other works, I always give Socrates this kind of saucy attitude in my mind, he is so quick! I wonder how much of this was actually said or what just carried over from other discussions with Socrates during ...more
i!
Kind of a grab-bag of genres: philosophical dialogue, theosophical and theological discursion, geographical thesis, dramatic tragedy. The literary aspects here are great, but the philosophy is crippled by the mindset of its day: "I am assuming the existence of an absolute beauty and goodness and magnitude and all the rest of them. If you grant my assumption and admit they exist...". A simple 'No' from the typically sycophantic Platonic bobbleheads that make up Socrates's death-entourage would ha ...more
Linda
What I like about Plato’s dialogues is how accessible they are. Much of Western thought is based on Plato's writings, so you can’t get much more academic than that, but at the same time, Plato isn’t hard. You don’t have to have special skills or been formally trained in philosophy to enjoy and understand Plato. Pheado is one of Plato’s later dialogues so it, probably, represents Plato’s own viewpoints rather than Socrates’. As for the philosophy itself, I like the proofs for the pre-existence of ...more
Marts  (Thinker)
Jun 19, 2012 Marts (Thinker) rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Socrates' last discussion before being executed as recorded by Plato from the perspective of Socrates' former students, Phaedo...
The discussion expounds on the afterlife and the soul's immortality to which he presents four arguments:
1. Argument from Opposites - i.e. a perpetual cycle of life and death, when we die we do not stay dead, but come back to life after a time.
2. Theory of Recollection - i.e. learning is actually recollecting what is already known
3. Argument from Affinity - i.e. there
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KEN!
Oct 27, 2015 KEN! rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: philosophy
It took a while to finish this; due to busyness I had to postpone my reading and read a single book at a time. However, I returned to his book a better reader, and found it easier to comprehend.

I was not convinced by Socrates (Platos?) arguments, but I do not believe this to be a particularly dogmatic dialogue. There were many times in the dialogue where Plato -- through the dialogue within the... dialogue -- hinted that the dialogue is neither an accurate account of Socrate's final hours (I re
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Cristina Berná
Me gusta el hecho de que Platón se presente a sí mismo como uno más de los personajes de la historia que no pudieron acudir a la muerte de Sócrates y sin ninguna relevancia aparte.

Este diálogo se realiza entre Fedón y Equécrates acerca de la muerte empezando por como aconteció la del filósofo mencionado arriba.

De igual modo no estoy de acuerdo con el prototipo platónico de la mujer de un filósofo reflejado en Jantipa.

Sócrates habla el día de su muerte de que no le tiene miedo sino que en realida
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Alberto
Feb 01, 2013 Alberto rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
At one point, Plato has Socrates reasoning by analogy between the following two situations to conclude that the soul is immortal:

• The number 3, while not defined exclusively by its oddness, contains oddness as an essential property and therefore does not admit of coexistence with evenness. (That is, if 3 were to become even, it would cease to be 3.)

• The soul, while not defined exclusively by its provision of life, contains this provision of life as an essential property and therefore does not
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Briana
In my mind there are 3 Socratic Dialogues which I categorize as the "Death Dialogues." These are the Apology, Crito, and Phaedo.

In some ways the Phaedo is the darkest of the three, as it is in this dialogue that Socrates is actually executed. The meat of the dialogue takes place minutes before he drinks the hemlock. People talk about Ancient Greek philosophy as being "cold." I think by this they mean that Plato, at least, seems quite fixated on reason (logos) and moderation and bereft of emotio
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Genni
Jun 02, 2016 Genni rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: re-read, philosophy
Good stuff. What I find interesting here are some of the thoughts that melded so well with Christianity later on. Denying the physical pleasures of the body to discover spiritual truths is a wonderful ideal, yet if not tempered by the message of grace from the New Testament can lead to extremes in self-denial.

The final point of the dialogue was to prove the immortality of the soul. After several attempts by argument, he resorts to mythology to explain his belief. Indeed, it is difficult when dis
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Axel Shut
Nel "Simposio", dopo che tutti hanno esposto le loro teorie sull'amore, arriva Alcibiade ubriaco che fa una piazzata a Socrate. "Ma cosa devo fare con te, perché non mi ami? Io ti invito a cena, faccio ginnastica con te, abbiamo pure fatto la guerra insieme." Nel "Fedone" invece, dopo aver lungamente dimostrato che il corpo non vale niente, conta solo l'anima immortale eccetera Critone domanda a Socrate "Cosa dobbiamo farne del tuo cadavere?" e l'altro risponde "Vedo che tutto il discorso finora ...more
Carla Paola
Fue muy interesante leer en este diálogo sobre el consuelo que puede ofrecemos la filosofía (la reflexión, la sabiduría, la introspección, el análisis racional del mundo...), en palabras que Platón pone en boca de Sócrates: "Los filósofos, al ver que su alma está verdaderamente ligada y pegada al cuerpo, y forzada a considerar los objetos por medio del cuerpo, como a través de una prisión oscura, y no por sí misma, conocen perfectamente que la fuerza de este lazo corporal consiste en las pasione ...more
Garrett Cash
An interesting work, and it's quite easy to see how it has influenced Western thought for thousands of years, but it is purely speculation. As a Christian who believes that the body and soul are not forever separated (see 1 Corinthians 15), I have the distinct advantage of hindsight and knowledge of Jesus Christ that 'Socrates' (or Plato) of course did not. So I thoroughly admire and commend 'Socrates's' efforts in trying to logically reason out the nature of the body and soul as being quite wis ...more
Thomas
May 27, 2014 Thomas rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
A very readable and reliable translation from Brann, Kalkavage and Salem. Terms are translated consistently, and the glossary is a useful guide to understanding both the etymology of the words translated and the ways in which Plato uses the terms, as well as related terms. (Explaining in a succinct way the relation and differences between Being [ousia], beings [ta onta], the Forms [eide], and "looks" [idea] is not easy, and here it is necessarily over-simplified, but the glossary entry can be he ...more
Sorin Hadârcă
Sep 15, 2015 Sorin Hadârcă rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: philosophy
Fascinant este discursul lui Socrate cu privire la filosofie ca exercițiul al trecerii în neființă. Prin asocierea plăcerii cu durere și având în vizor eliberarea sufletului de metempsihoză, mi s-a părut foarte aproape de mentalitatea budistă. În schimb, argumentele pentru nemurirea sufletului le-am găsit truncheate: teoria contrariilor pretinde că subiectul transformării e același (sufletul), pe când teoria reminiscenței e incompletă fără o cosmogonie (ok, cunoașterea-i o reamintite din viețile ...more
Cynthia .
Nov 08, 2015 Cynthia . rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 100, plato
Without a concrete background about Plato and his philosophical views, one cannot quite grasp the import of the dialogue between the wise and beloved Socrates and his loyal followers. I must admit that among the 4 books written by Plato that I have read, Phaedo is the most tedious read. Socrates, as mirrored in Plato's art, has shown the fecundity of his mind during his last few moments by discussing about the soul and its immortality.
Sookie
I am mostly annoyed at how unmoving Socrates ordeal is dealt with. This dialogue falls quite short with respect to its predecessors - Apology and Crito. Plato tediously explains death, after death, soul and man's perpetual search for immortality. The narration is bleak, which isn't unexpected but makes Socrates irritatingly opaque.
Valentina89
Jan 26, 2016 Valentina89 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Ottima lettura!!
E' un opera che va letta assolutamente,soprattutto per l'effetto ottenuto.Ti lascia con il pensiaro che corre.
Non è assolutamente un libro sulla morte,come si può pensare,ma affronta altri temi che oggi non hanno proprio risposte certe.Ho deciso inoltre che Socrate è un bel personaggio... ;-)
♥Meagan♥
Jan 17, 2011 ♥Meagan♥ rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: school, kindle
I had a lot of issues understanding this book in a few ways. It was for my Literature and the Occult class and I don't really understand how it will fit into that.

I'm also not a very big fan of philosophy, and especially Plato, but college told me I had to read it, so I did. :p
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  • De Anima (On the Soul)
  • Philosophical Fragments (Writings, Vol 7)
  • Conversations of Socrates
  • Proslogium/Monologium/Cur Deus Homo/In Behalf of the Fool
  • Hippolytus
  • Four Texts on Socrates: Euthyphro/Apology/Crito/Aristophanes' Clouds
  • The Enneads
  • The Consolation of Philosophy
  • On the Motion of the Heart and Blood in Animals
  • On Duties (Cambridge Texts in the History of Political Thought)
  • The Golden Sayings of Epictetus
  • On the Advantage and Disadvantage of History for Life
  • Monadology
  • Lives of Eminent Philosophers, Vol 1, Books 1-5
  • Philoctetes
  • Rules for the Direction of the Mind
  • Der Ursprung des Kunstwerkes
  • Plato I: Euthyphro. Apology. Crito. Phaedo. Phaedrus. (Loeb Classical Library, #36)
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Plato is a Classical Greek philosopher, mathematician, student of Socrates, writer of philosophical dialogues, and founder of the Academy in Athens, the first institution of higher learning in the Western world. Along with his mentor, Socrates, and his student, Aristotle, Plato helped to lay the foundations of Western philosophy and science.

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