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The Outcasts of 19 Schuyler Place

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I Prefer Not To....

That's Margaret Rose Kane's response to every activity she's asked to participate in at the summer camp to which she's been exiled while her parents are in Peru. So Margaret Rose is delighted when her beloved uncles rescue her from Camp Talequa, with its uptight camp director and cruel cabinmates, and bring her to stay with them at their wonderful house...more

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Published December 20th 2005 by Atheneum Books for Young Readers (first published January 27th 2004)

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May 07, 2008 rivka rated it 5 of 5 stars Recommends it for: teenagers & others who never quite fit in

Recommended to rivka by: Lisa Vegan

Shelves: young-adult, books-everyone-should-read, favorites

E.L. Konigsberg's books are always excellent, but this was even better than most. Clearly based in part on the real-life story of the Watts Towers, Konigsberg used them as a starting point and an inspiration, but the towers in Outcasts are in most ways distinct from their real-life counterparts (and the resolution of their fate is as well).

Jumping back and forth between the narrator's present (spending the summer with her eccentric uncles) and recent past (the few tortuous weeks she spent in sum...more

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Oct 14, 2008 Clarice rated it 2 of 5 stars

this book would probably be good for someone else... i got it a few years ago and never got to finish it. i am giving it 2 stars because it makes a good pillow.

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Nov 24, 2007 Banzai rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition Recommends it for: Old souls and visionaries

Shelves: childrens-books

The author of the beloved "Mixed up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler" has written another treasure. This one is the coziest little protest to gentrification you ever did read. Set in an older neighborhood in anytown, USA, two crumudgeonly Hungarian brothers, their incorrigible grandaughter, an Italian truffle-hunting dog and a hot summer camp janitor all work to save three glorious towers constructed by the Rose brothers in their own backyard from the evil, bland, homeowners association.

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Apr 07, 2013 Bethany rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: young-adult, simply-fiction, high-school, childrens, children-s

Dear E.L. Konigsburg,

I think that I will forever hold a grudge against you for writing Silent to the Bone and against my library for putting it in the children's section. Reading it was such a bad experience that it kept me away from all of your really good books for way too many years! WHY?!

Sincerely,
Bethany

Okay, now I just want to say that I really like The Outcasts of 19 Schuyler Place. I love Margaret Rose; she is so smart and funny! She and her uncles are so special. I love all of them. Th...more

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Aug 14, 2012 M. rated it 4 of 5 stars

When Margaret Rose's parents go to Peru one summer, she's not sure why she's being sent to summer camp rather than to stay with her great-uncles. Camp isn't what she expected given bullying cabin mates and a camp director who isn't interested in listening. The director wants conformity and compliance; Margaret Rose very politely responds with "I prefer not to" and infuriates everyone around her. When she's labeled incorrigible, her great-uncles rescue her but she quickly learns that all is not w...more

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Jul 22, 2012 Jo Oehrlein rated it 3 of 5 stars

This sort of seemed like 2 different books, and I thought the ending was fairly contrived. The beginning was awesome, though. A 12 year old only-child is sent to camp. She herself has selected it based on reading ton so brochures and watching lots of videos. However, she is one of 2 newcomers in a cabin with a clique of returning campers. The other newbie decides to fit in, and the main character becomes the unifying force by serving as their punching bag (figuratively). This book shows how mean...more

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Aug 04, 2011 bookczuk rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: bookcrossing, favorite-author, kids-of-most-ages, satisfying, worth-the-reread

E.L. Konigsburg is the writer I want to be when I grow up. She paints her characters so beautifully, and so realistically. There is always a realisticcenter that the books center around, whether it's 3 towers built by Margaret Rose Kane's two uncles, an academic bowl (The View from Saturday), or my very favorite From the Mixed Up Files of Mrs Basil E Frankweiler, where two children run away, and end up living in a museum.

Like her other books, this one deals with a 12 year old beginning to unders...more

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Jun 16, 2011 Karin rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: summer-camp, summer, families, young-adult-fiction, tween, fighting-the-system, legal-battles, gutsy-girls, realistic, borrowed-from-the-library

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. Margaret decides to go to summer camp after she learns that she can't travel to Peru with her parents or stay with her two favorite elderly uncles, Alex and Morris. Summer camp is definitely not what she expects, however, and her rejection of the traditional camp experience is expressed only as defiantly as the phrase, "I prefer not to." This anti-camp attitude causes the camp director to phone her uncle Alex, who promptly arrives to rescue her. Happy as a clam in the bosom of her family, Margar...more

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Apr 22, 2011 Annie rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: childrens-books

A spunky, sweet story about the importance of art, history and family. Margaret Rose is a girl who “prefers” not to participate in many activities at her summer camp. As a result of her rebellion, her charming, but slightly eccentric Uncle Alex and his truffle-hunting dog rescue her from the camp director and spiteful bunkmates. She and her uncle are driven home by the camp’s custodian, Jake, who also happens to be the camp directors son. Home is 19 Schuyler Place and Uncle Martin resides there...more

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Nov 10, 2010 Rebekah rated it 3 of 5 stars

The Outcasts of Schuyler Place
E.L. Konigsburg

In the Outcasts of Schuyler Place Margaret Rose Kane wants to go to a summer camp but her parents are going to Peru. So when Margaret finds out she gets to go because her uncles are willing to take her at their place on 19 Schuyler Place. While she is there she finds out that the neighbor wants to knock down the towers that her uncles built by hand. She is very determined to not let this happen.

I thought that this book was very well written. The res...more

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Oct 02, 2010 Heather Pearson rated it 4 of 5 stars

Margaret's parents are in Peru for the summer and her beloved Uncles Alex and Morris have declined to let her visit with them for the vacation, so she picks a summer camp to attend. Unfortunately she doesn't like it there one bit and refuses to participate in any of the activities.

That being said, this story really isn't about that summer camp, it's about adults and what they want to do and why they want to do it. It's also about why it takes a child to point out the error of their ways. Margar...more

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Jul 26, 2010 S.A. Partridge rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: young-adult

I get excited when I find a good young adult novel. The Outcasts of 19 Schuyler Place is fast-paced and funny, centering on a smart, witty girl who is everything a young adult should be.
12 year old Margaret Rose Kane decides to pack it in after a disastrous spell at summer camp where a group of very nasty and very unladylike girls decide to make her life a living hell.
She spends the rest of her holiday with her eccentric uncles whose entire lives have been devoted to constructing and maintainin...more

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Jun 30, 2009 Jenben8426 rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

As I began reading I didn't think that I would like it. I was extremely bothered by a passing reference to an autistic/aspergers person (which is interesting since, I believe, the author has a son with autism) and had a hard time getting past it even though it wasn't entirely essential to the plot (later it does play somewhat of a role, but not until a chapter close to the end). Anyways, it is more of a slow moving, think on a deeper level book, and in the end I did really enjoy it. I felt that...more

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Feb 14, 2012 NCPL Teenzone rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: book-clubs, ya, realistic

Have you ever uttered the phrase “I prefer not to”? Like I prefer not to take out the garbage or I prefer not to eat tomatoes. I prefer not to make my bed or go out in freezing cold weather. How about I prefer not to do that math assignment or my homework? I’m sure at one point or another we’ve all preferred not to do something. Margaret Rose Kane would have preferred to spend her summer with her parents in Peru or with her eccentric uncles at 19 Schuyler Place. But neither her parents nor the U...more Have you ever uttered the phrase “I prefer not to”? Like I prefer not to take out the garbage or I prefer not to eat tomatoes. I prefer not to make my bed or go out in freezing cold weather. How about I prefer not to do that math assignment or my homework? I’m sure at one point or another we’ve all preferred not to do something. Margaret Rose Kane would have preferred to spend her summer with her parents in Peru or with her eccentric uncles at 19 Schuyler Place. But neither her parents nor the Uncles had any intentions of her spending the summer with them. The Uncles suggested that since she is an only child the experience of camp would be beneficial to her. So although she preferred not to, Margaret Rose began the process of choosing and applying for summer camp. And that is how Margaret Rose ended up at Camp Talequa. But because she prefers not to join in camp activities, it isn’t long before Uncle Alexander comes to her rescue, springs her from the tortures of summer camp and whisks Margaret Rose back to the tranquility of 19 Schuyler Place. Margaret Rose loves her Uncles and their house. She especially loves the towers they have built in their backyard. For over 45 years, the Uncles have created these masterpieces out of steel, glass, crystals, and a multitude of paint shades. But as Margaret Rose soon learns, not everyone sees these towers as art. The Homeowners Association views them as a safety hazard and a deterioration to property values. And while Margaret Rose preferred not to participate in camp activities, she is determined to find a way to save the outcast towers at 19 Schuyler Place.

Why I picked up the book: The first time I read it, I was drawn in by the cover which has the pattern of rose petals with the tower and by the fact that I love the name Schuyler.

Why I finished the book: I'd prefer not to say. Kidding.

I'd recommend it to: readers looking for a nice, clean story and something that makes you think about what you believe in. If they have read "Silent to the Bone", I think they will appreciate getting Margaret's back story. I haven't read it but will pick it up next.(less)

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Dec 08, 2011 Jill rated it 3 of 5 stars

Not as good as her two Newbery winners, but still an enjoyable read.

"Time is not money, Mrs. Kaplan. Time wasted is often time well spent. Money wasted is merely redistributed."

"I think the word for what you were is anobedient, which would mean without obedience--which is not the same thing as disobedience. I would say that anobedience is related to words like anesthetic, which means without feeling." "Or anonymous, which means without a name." "Or anorexiawithout an appetite or anemia, without...more Not as good as her two Newbery winners, but still an enjoyable read.

"Time is not money, Mrs. Kaplan. Time wasted is often time well spent. Money wasted is merely redistributed."

"I think the word for what you were is anobedient, which would mean without obedience--which is not the same thing as disobedience. I would say that anobedience is related to words like anesthetic, which means without feeling." "Or anonymous, which means without a name." "Or anorexiawithout an appetite or anemia, without blood." "Or Anne Bolyn, without a head."

"Like a kiss or a walk in the woods, the towers were meant to be experienced, not inventoried."

"Jake knew that his mother had a tendency to mistake rules, her rules, for principles. She did not bend because she did not have enough confidence to know when or how far. She did not listen well because one ear was always otherwise engaged--either listening to what she herself had just said or what she would say next."

"...if life has a structure, a staff, a sensible scaffold, we hang our nonsense on it. And they are saying that broken parts add color and music to the staff of life. and they also say that when you know that your framework has been built right and strong, it's all right to add color to it, too. The towers are saying, there is no why--only why-not."

"And there in the hall with only Tartufo to hear me, I howled. my roar filled the hall, climbed the stairs, and echoed back. Bubbles of rage swelled and burst inside the hollow that the Alums had scraped bare. I hugged my stomach and doubled over in agony. I collapsed on the bottom step. I tried to read the card again, but the words stung my eyes. I clutched the postcard to my chest and began to rock back and forth in a pulse as primitive as pain. With no one but Tartufo to bear witness, I began to moan. I rocked and moaned, motion and sound keeping time with the spasms of my aching heart. I gave voice to all the deep, sad sounds I had tamped into silence since summer began."

"...it's like having kids... Having had them is more important than keeping them."(less)

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Nov 11, 2009 Rachel rated it 5 of 5 stars

Remember E.L Konigsburg?

I remember "From the Mixed-up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler" quite well. So when I stumbled on this book by the same author, I thought at least I'd get a decent story. Instead, I got a fantastic one.

(I wrote the below and then found it boring. Read it if you want, but you'd really be better off to just read the book.)

Our protagonist is Margaret Rose Kane, 12 years old and not particularly interested in what others think she should or shouldn't do. She's more interest...more

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Jan 28, 2013 J.H. Walker rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: reviewed, childrens, ya-fiction

This is a kid's book...not my usual fare. But I loved e.l. konigsburg as a child. I mean what serious reader hasn't read and loved "The Mixed Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankenwiler?" I saw this book on my shelf and thought I'd add it to my mix in case you're looking for a book for a tweener or early teen. Sure, part of it is the political activist in me. Part of it is the artist. But this is a sweet, little story.

Life isn't always fair. The sooner you learn that, the easier you make it through...more

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Sep 10, 2012 Janice rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: kids-lit

Really liked this one.

Girl, Margaret Rose Kane, goes to camp (a lot of kids do, but she can't figure out why.) Her parents usually love to have her on their trips. Her great uncles adore her, but no one wants her for the summer. She is the ultimate outsider. Great uncle comes to collect her when camp director calls her to complain because she prefers not do to anything camp-like. She goes back to uncles' house where she finds out why they didn't want her with them for the summer.

Gentrification h...more

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Apr 01, 2010 Josiah rated it 2 of 5 stars

There are few writers—particularly writers of juvenile literature—who can match E.L. Konigsburg's ability to fashion stories of such admirable wit and sophistication, which is a trademark of all her books. E.L. Konigsburg is, truly, the "thinking kid's author", pandering to no low common denominator, but instead populating her narrative with intelligent characters who think for themselves and approach their difficulties with sound problem-solving acumen.

Margaret Rose Kane, only twelve years ol...more There are few writers—particularly writers of juvenile literature—who can match E.L. Konigsburg's ability to fashion stories of such admirable wit and sophistication, which is a trademark of all her books. E.L. Konigsburg is, truly, the "thinking kid's author", pandering to no low common denominator, but instead populating her narrative with intelligent characters who think for themselves and approach their difficulties with sound problem-solving acumen.

Margaret Rose Kane, only twelve years old in this companion book to the earlier Silent to the Bone, faces an unsavory summer when she must go to camp while her parents are away in Peru. It's not long before Margaret's two offbeat uncles come to pick her up and take her home with them, since her time at camp is not going well.

The most noticeable landmark at her uncles' house is the set of three towers that they have sturdily constructed using bits of scrap metal and other pieces of ware over the past forty-five years. To Margaret, the towers are as much a piece of her uncles as anything; it represents their personal labor and struggles over the span of nearly half a century.

Not all is well in their neighborhood, however. New zoning laws have brought the existence of the towers to the attention of the wrong people (lawyers, in this case), and the legal order has been given that the towers must be demolished, under the guise of safety concerns. Intelligent, free-spirited girl that she is, Margaret Rose Kane will not let this happen without a fight. How she draws new and old allies to her uncles' cause, and rallies them all to prevent the destruction of the towers that mean so much to her family, is an intriguing ride that will hold the reader's attention well until the final page.

E.L. Konigsburg is one of my all-time favorite writers. Her gift of imparting real wisdom through literature is surpassed by none, and I loved the parts of this book that presented that wisdom. This is a story worth reading. (less)

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Feb 03, 2013 Nikki Boisture rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: ya-books

What a lovely little book. I'm embarrassed to say, as a Y.A. fan, I don't think I realized E.L. Konigsburg was still publishing. But I'm glad she is.

This book follows Margaret Rose Kane as she's sent to summer camp for the first time in her twelve years while her parents spend the summer in Peru. Margaret doesn't take to camp, and is bullied by the other girls in her cabin. Her Uncle Alex comes to her rescue.

Alex & Margaret's other Uncle, Morris, live at 19 Schuyler Place in a downtown area...more

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Jul 20, 2012 Mandolin rated it 3 of 5 stars

I know that you'd like me to tell you about this book, but I prefer not to...Or so I would say if my name was Margaret Rose Kane! However, it's not, so I'll indulge your curiosity! The book, as you may have guessed, centers on a very incorrigible young girl name Margaret Rose who, having refused to participate in many of the group activities offered by her summer camp and having been treated cruelly by the clique that inhabits her bungalow, is returned back to the home of her two Hungarian uncle...more I know that you'd like me to tell you about this book, but I prefer not to...Or so I would say if my name was Margaret Rose Kane! However, it's not, so I'll indulge your curiosity! The book, as you may have guessed, centers on a very incorrigible young girl name Margaret Rose who, having refused to participate in many of the group activities offered by her summer camp and having been treated cruelly by the clique that inhabits her bungalow, is returned back to the home of her two Hungarian uncles by an irate camp director who thinks she's the queen of her own little domain. Margaret's unexpected arrival at her uncles' home, necessary due to her parent's summer trip to Peru, sets about a cascade of events that leads to a memorable summer. The uncles, who have spent much of their lives in America building beautiful metal clock towers in their backyard and decorating them with glimmering glass pendants, have been fighting a losing war against the destruction of the towers: a war they've hidden from Margaret. When she finally learns of the local homeowners association's determination to raze the structures in order to "raise property values" and contribute to the "historical redevelopment" of the neighborhood, Margaret is incensed and determined to prevent the tragedy at all costs. She recruits a varied cast of characters - including the son of her former camp director, on whom she has a bit of a crush, and a big, lovable dog named Tarufo - to aid in her rescue mission. Her attempt is fraught with many heart-breaking as well as hilarious moments and often feels doomed to failure. Margaret's spirit is strong and not one to break, even in the face of a force of firemen and angry city officials, but will it be enough to save the towers?

Although this book wasn't quite as fun as the other Konigsburg books that I enjoyed (I think I was spoiled by the delightful From The Mixed Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler), it was a nice one to listen to with my parents during our weekly jaunts to the supermarket and the beach. Margaret is a bit of a brat, but she's a likable one whose spirit the reader can't help but admire. Her supporting cast of characters, including her adorable uncles and their dog, round off the book nicely. All in all, the book was a good read that teaches several basic truths including the importance of remaining true to oneself even in the face of cruelty and prejudice. I was disappointed with the ending but felt that it fit with the entire theme of the book and reinforced the theme that, though life isn't always perfect, we can still find beauty and meaning in it. (less)

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Sep 21, 2011 Cheryl rated it 4 of 5 stars

Twelve year old Margaret Rose Kane has no option but to go to summer camp. Her parents are spending the summer in Peru and her adored great uncles have declined to take her. Camp is a disaster as Margaret becomes the center of her cabin mates’ pranks and bullying. When her uncle Morris rescues her from the torment and brings her home she discovers there are problems in her own backyard. For many years her beloved great-uncles have been creating works of art in the form of three giant clock tower...more

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Oct 15, 2012 Aaron rated it 4 of 5 stars

I really liked how the author kept tying parts of the book back to the beginning. Had some neat ideas and phrases (“editing” roses instead of pruning them, not giving up a day off to help someone – you’re filling it up). Also gave me a new appreciation to the prefix “an” (without) that I hadn’t thought about before. Didn’t like the ending, thought it was too short and glossed over. Either flesh it out, or end the book with the conclusion of the main story.

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Aug 29, 2012 Ebster Davis rated it 3 of 5 stars

I'm reading this story now, on page 105.

My favorite part so far is her strong sense of "self"; her identity, family and heritage, determines how she thinks of herself and how she sees the world instead of how others perceive her. Very meaningful and it gives her the potential to be a very powerful character, although I doubt the author will go in that direction.

My least favorite part is how the author is basically conveying principles and quirks of sociology and psychology in lieu of of forward...more

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Aug 11, 2011 Alison rated it 5 of 5 stars

Margaret Rose Kane hates Camp Talequa and its dictatorial director. That’s why she’s so glad to be rescued by her great-uncles and taken to their historic home in downtown Epiphany. No one there will try to force her to be something she’s not. Or will they? Margaret soon discovers that an impersonal homeowners’ association threatens to destroy her uncle’s beautiful and historic artwork—unless she can stop them first.

The Outcasts of 19 Schulyer Place is an homage to a passing world where neighbor...more

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Oct 09, 2008 Jessie rated it 4 of 5 stars

A big fan of E.L. Konigsburg since third grade when I first read From the Mixed Up Files of Mrs Basil E. Frankweiler. This is an empowering tale for any middl-schooler in your life!

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Mar 22, 2012 Elizabeth rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: realistic-fiction

Margaret Rose King gets sent to summer camp because her parents don't want to take her on a dig to Peru and her favorite uncles don't want her either. But her uncles do come for her eventually because she is being tormented at camp. The camp director finally calls home because Margaret is replying I'd rather not to all activities. It is when she gets to her uncles home that she realizes something is amiss. She discovers why her uncles did not want her for the summer. She also decides to do somet...more

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Sep 16, 2010 Valerie rated it 3 of 5 stars

This book had a fantastic beginning. The author is right on in describing how a camp experience can go terribly wrong, and how girls can play vicious mind games with each other in an attempt to be popular. As the story continued, my interest fizzled. I was still drawn to the author's portrayal of the 12 year-old main character and her quirky uncles, but the plot started to bore me. The ending was a real let down. After a slow build up, the ending was like crashing into a brick wall. It just stop...more

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Dec 24, 2012 Lisa rated it 2 of 5 stars Recommends it for: 10 year old girls

Shelves: fiction-children, something-a-teacher-would-assign

Perhaps I should not review this book because I began to feel annoyed when I learned the main character's name is 'Margaret Rose' which I think is too long and too old fashioned.

I had to tell myself several times that this story is probably meant for 10 year old girls, because it seemed so contrived. Margaret Rose's parents park her in summer camp when they go off to work in Peru. She is stuck in a cabin with mean girls. So, like Bartleby, she preferred not to do anything.

As the story develops,...more

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Aug 05, 2011 Neill Smith rated it 5 of 5 stars

Margaret Rose Kane’s parents go on an archaeological expedition to Peru so she is sent to Camp Talequa. When she is bullied by her campmates her campaign of passive aggression results in her liberation by her favourite Hungarian uncles who take her back to their home – the site of three towers they have spent the last forty-five years constructing in their backyard. But over the years the neighbourhood has evolved from the home of immigrant families to a trendy renewal project fostered by lawyer...more

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Elaine Lobl Konigsburg was an American author and illustrator of children's books and young adult fiction. She was the only author to win the Newbery Medal and a Newbery Honor in the same year (1968), with her second and first books respectively: From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler and Jennifer, Hecate, Macbeth, William McKinley, and Me, Elizabeth. Kongisburg won a second Newbery...more

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