You Think That's Bad
by
Jim Shepard
Following Like You’d Understand, Anyway—awarded the Story Prize and a finalist for the National Book Award—Jim Shepard returns with an even more wildly diverse collection of astonishingly observant stories. Like an expert curator, he populates the vastness of human experience—from its bizarre fringes and lonely, breathtaking pinnacles to the hopelessly mediocre and despera...more
Hardcover, 225 pages
Published
March 22nd 2011
by Knopf
(first published March 10th 2011)
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Some stories are more interesting than others here, but I really have not read anything by this man that I haven't liked. As usual, there are startling moments of humor in sad stories. I don't know if it's my personal life but the first few stories here had me on the verge of weeping. This from "Minotaur" when a wife discovers, after a devastating betrayal, that she doesn't know her husband. From husband's POV:
"She thought she'd put up with however many years of stonewalling for a good reason, a...more
"She thought she'd put up with however many years of stonewalling for a good reason, a...more
This was a wildly creative batch of short stories by an author I'd never read before. He's extremely talented at jumping into different voices and characters and I don't know how he does it--it would be interesting to hear where he gets his ideas. He went from an American ex-military private with severe PTSD, to a serial killer/pedophile medieval French lord (seriously! This is what I mean by wildly creative), to the creator of Godzilla, etc. Having said that, I found the stories hit-or-miss, an...more
One doesn’t so much read a Jim Shepard story as dive into his infectiously delicious prose. If you’ve enjoyed his previous novels or story collections than you’re no doubt thrilled at the publication of his latest, //You Think That’s Bad.// And if you’ve not yet had the pleasure, well then consider yourself graced by good fortune and avail take opportunity to immerse yourself in his spectacular imagination.
Other writers to often settle for remaining in their comfort zone; by contrast Shepard sta...more
Other writers to often settle for remaining in their comfort zone; by contrast Shepard sta...more
Until I read this book, I hadn't realized how much the authors I generally read tend to limit themselves when it came to characters and settings. In fact, I hadn't really thought about that at all. And then I read these stories, most of which are set outside of the United States and many of which are not set in the late 20th century/early 21st century, and suddenly those limitations have become painfully evident.
Maybe the reason why you don't see it that often is because of the tremendous amount...more
Maybe the reason why you don't see it that often is because of the tremendous amount...more
So as some of you may know by now, I'm not a fan of short stories. I feel like if a story and an author are good enough, it should be a novel (or at least a novella). A 15-25 page story is just a summary, an outline of an idea that is underdone or something that is just so flimsy it shouldn't be written in the first place. And, I hate having to get into a story again every 20ish pages. So, the best possible rating for a book of short stories is a 4 star...so this one ain't bad.
Several of the rev...more
Several of the rev...more
"In those last few nights with her, I spent what time we had let trying to recover the irrecoverable with only my presence. I wanted to believe that nothing had been lost of what we had shared so many years before. But we look on everyone's transformations as fluid except our own. 'Dress them up as you like, but they will always run away,' the King of Naples is reported to have said of his inadequate soldiers. The mother I trusted, the Vera I loved, the woman I imagined myself to be: all of thos...more
Who knew that Jim Shepard does weather and science (and heartbreak and sadness) so well? My three favorite stories in this (amazingly wonderful) collection are about Swiss avalanche experts ("Your Fate Hurtles Down at You"), Dutch "water sector" workers of the near-future working to ameliorate the effects of global climate change ("The Netherlands Lives with Water"), and Polish winter mountain-climbers ("Poland is Watching"). These are men-(and Freya Stark)-at-work stories, each filled with deta...more
I devoured this book. These are incredibly well-researched short stories. The situations are from the far corners of reality: Avalanche researchers in 1930s Switzerland; physicists working projects on a supercollider; hapless Lake States soldiers thrown against Japanese forces (if they and their equipment don't rot in the jungle of Papua); an impulsive young man stumbling on the path from deadbeat father and layabout to rampaging survivalist. Three are world-class: speculative fiction about how...more
I know that this doesn't speak to the quality of the writing, per se, but I really admire/an in awe of Shepard's research as well as his ability to claim authority over such a wide variety of settings and timeframes. I think "The Netherlands Lives With Water" is the first of his stories that I've read set in near-future and I was utterly convinced. Most of the others I've read are set in the past, and he seems to be able to tackle any time period or location. I read "Your Fate Hurdles Down at Yo...more
I'd give this 3.5 stars if you could do half-stars on Goodreads.
My advice would be to skip the first four stories (and especially the first), which simply aren't on par with the rest of the collection. Those four stories (with the possible slight exception of the second, "The Track of the Assassins") aren't much distinguished from the sort of clunky, obvious efforts you'd see in an average literary journal, and they don't do anything to support the idea (which you often hear advanced) that Shepa...more
My advice would be to skip the first four stories (and especially the first), which simply aren't on par with the rest of the collection. Those four stories (with the possible slight exception of the second, "The Track of the Assassins") aren't much distinguished from the sort of clunky, obvious efforts you'd see in an average literary journal, and they don't do anything to support the idea (which you often hear advanced) that Shepa...more
Good, but not great, and certainly nowhere near as good as "Like You'd Understand." Short story collections tread a fine line--as a reader, I want some degree of unity, but I don't want that unity to bleed over into mere repetition. Unfortunately, I think this book does that, in terms of both voice and themes. There are some gems--the Netherlands/water story particularly stands out--but by the end, although I still enjoyed stories as discrete units, I was almost bored with the collection. Worst...more
Sep 24, 2011
Patrick McCoy
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I have to say that jim Shepard is probably my favorite contemporary short story writer. I really enjoyed his previous short story collections, Love & Hydrogen and Like You'd Understand Anyway. But You Think That's Bad is probably his best to date. One thing i like about his fiction is that he often does extensive research into a subject to write a historically realistic story that has a universal message about love, life, and death. For example, one of my favorites is is called "Happy With C...more
Well, hurray for this guy. He was bold and ambitious in taking on the range of characters / times / places he did. I've always thought it was odd that there seem to be so few short stories set in any time period other than our own. This is an encouraging reminder that it can be done.
Nevertheless, the stories suffer from a certain sameness. Shepard's efforts to write in different registers and voices fall a bit flat, and the domestic trajectories central to virtually every story are predictable....more
Nevertheless, the stories suffer from a certain sameness. Shepard's efforts to write in different registers and voices fall a bit flat, and the domestic trajectories central to virtually every story are predictable....more
Perfect.
My favorite was "The Netherlands Lives with Water."
(Please go read them, so we can talk about how perfectly he can sums up the human condition, the duality of how the world destructs us as we destruct ourselves, the beautiful landscapes in every one of his tales, the stories within stories, those endings - like an afterthought - that just destroy you, the way he can shift focus from one person's internal dialogue to the external conditions surrounding them, the way that no story contai...more
My favorite was "The Netherlands Lives with Water."
(Please go read them, so we can talk about how perfectly he can sums up the human condition, the duality of how the world destructs us as we destruct ourselves, the beautiful landscapes in every one of his tales, the stories within stories, those endings - like an afterthought - that just destroy you, the way he can shift focus from one person's internal dialogue to the external conditions surrounding them, the way that no story contai...more
Is there any kind of story Jim Shepard’s not capable of writing? Here is his common formula, one that always works beautifully, astonishingly, and often both: choose a time, place, or topic that few fiction writers have jumped into (for example, Tokyo film production in the 50’s, Swiss avalanche researchers in the late 30’s, the muddy agony of wartime Papua New Guinea); read exhaustively the best histories available about the selected topics; and then combine a writer’s interpretation of the tim...more
If you haven't read Jim Shepard, I highly recommend him. I discovered his work last year in a collection of O'Henry Award Winning Stories. That story, "Your Fate Hurtles Down on You" is included in this collection. It is about avalanche researchers in Switzerland in the 1930's. Shepard's incredible research and eye for detail made me an instant fan. Shepard's prose is as powerful as I have ever read, as demonstrated by the opening to "In Cretaceous Seas." I think I have read the opening to that...more
You Think That's Bad is a collection of short stories from one of my favorite writers, Jim Shepard. There are eleven stories in the collection, ten of which were previously published in The Atlantic, McSweeney's, The New Yorker, and Electric Literature among other. It is an interesting collection of stories, taking on inadequacy, desperation, loss, heartbreak, love, and alienation.
Take "Minotaur," previously published in Playboy, which takes on the secret world of black operations research and d
...more
jim shephard continues to prove that he is one of, if not THE, best living short story writers in america. i prefer him over tobias wolff, george saunders, richard ford, etc. shephard is so protean in his approach that it shocks me every time. he has such great command over vastly different voices: from a secretive skunk works employee, to the vicious gilles de rais, to a stunningly effective futuristic take on climate change and how it's massive changes will only serve to show us familiar we wi...more
Such a fascinating and intense read. Sometimes Shepard falls a little too in love with his research (at the expense of his pacing), but I almost don't care--he takes you places you could never go, and his characters react and interact in such complicated and true ways. The Netherlands Lives With Water and Your Fate Hurtles Down at You are two of my all-time favorite short stories, and alone worth the rating. But the book as a whole, with Shepard's masterful skill at depicting characters on the b...more
My thanks to Jordan for recommending this book. I have never come across a book of short stories with such a wide range of subjects, spanning continents and centuries, and evoking a variety of emotions in the reader. The writing is sometimes humorous, sometimes beautiful, and always very dense. (I had to read some of the stories a second time, in order to truly appreciate them.)This is a remarkable book. In just a few pages, the author conjures up a richness of characters and situations that gri...more
I like Jim Shepard a lot and I think all of his stories could probably be expanded into novels. He is a master of the weird and interesting premise. My complaint about this collection is that too many of the stories follow the same pattern: kind of weird guy is obsessed with his career. His marriage suffers. But several of the stories in here are knockouts so I'm giving it four stars anyway. My favorites were "Happy with Crocodiles," "Boys Town," and "Classical Scenes of Farewell," although I fe...more
“The map was from the Survey of India series, four miles to the inch, and manifested its inaccuracy even in the few features it cited” (21).
“For one stretch we had to unload their saddlebags and drag them by the halter ropes while Aziz shouted into their ears distressing facts about their parentage” (22).
“Dip your foot in the water and here's what you're playing with: Xiphactinus, all angry underbite and knitting-needle teeth, with heads oddly humped and eyes enraged with accusation, and ribbone...more
“For one stretch we had to unload their saddlebags and drag them by the halter ropes while Aziz shouted into their ears distressing facts about their parentage” (22).
“Dip your foot in the water and here's what you're playing with: Xiphactinus, all angry underbite and knitting-needle teeth, with heads oddly humped and eyes enraged with accusation, and ribbone...more
Mar 21, 2011
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The swagger of Jim Shepard’s opening lines pulled me in at once, and the book continues with a subtle grace. Each time I set the book down, it found its way quickly into my hands again.
Many argue that art’s greatest achievement is to place us face to face with our humanity. These stories exemplify Jim Shepard’s mastery of such a lofty craft.
The swagger of Jim Shepard’s opening lines pulled me in at once, and the book continues with a subtle grace. Each time I set the book down, it found its way quickly into my hands again.
Many argue that art’s greatest achievement is to place us face to face with our humanity. These stories exemplify Jim Shepard’s mastery of such a lofty craft.
Almost a year after reading this two stories from the collection stick with me. The first one in the line-up, Minotaur, I initially identified with the most. I read it three times before I was done with it. But the title story, about a vet of a recent war returning to a civilian situation that is like throwing a lit match on the gasoline of his PTSD, is the one that I can't get out of my head. Especially this quote.
"You get lonely, is what it is. A person's not supposed to go through life with...more
"You get lonely, is what it is. A person's not supposed to go through life with...more
Jim Shepard is a master of the short story, and we know this. However, if you've read every goddamn thing he's written, as I have, this collection starts to feel a little familiar. That's not necessarily bad, and there are still some great stories in here, but it is the first collection I've read of his that feels like it's comprised mostly of stories that he decided not to use in his previous collection. Still awesome, though? Yes, obviously still awesome.
There's just something about each of these stories that makes you want to read more and more. Each character is deep and gets fleshed out in such a way that when the stories (sometimes very abruptly) end you want to go back and reexamine them. That or go onto the next story and see what he cooked up next. All of them were engrossing in their own way. So I've picked up just about every book by Shepard to see what else he's come up with.
I don't tend to be a fan of short story collections, but if there ever was a reason to change my mind, it's Jim Shepard. Holy smokes! He is a master researcher (wowie!) and an even better writer. Each story brought me to worlds unknown and previously unimaginable before leaving me devastated and cracked right open. These are heart breakers that taunted and tantalized, worth every turn of the page.
So, sure, Shepard hasn't lost his freakish ability to see straight into other people, an extraordinary form of imaginative ventriloquism. But here too often, once you strip away the accoutrements (phrasing, description, historical details), you're left with the same basic story: one man competing with another for the love of a woman, including Mom.
Short story collection with each one standing on its own. Wide variety of characters and subjects from global warming, historical child abuse (at the time of Joan of Arc), mountain climbing and avalanches etc. Most are very good but the shorter ones not so much. I regretted that some of the stories were not novels as I wished for more.
There is a huge variety of setting in this book, from France in the 1400s to the Netherlands in the near future, but there is a similar vein running through all the stories, of characters balancing dangerously on the edge.
It is a well crafted and thought provoking collection that prompted me into doing some research of my own.
It is a well crafted and thought provoking collection that prompted me into doing some research of my own.
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Shepard was born in Bridgeport, Connecticut. He received a B.A. at Trinity College in 1978 and an MFA from Brown University in 1980. He currently teaches creative writing and film at Williams College. His wife, Karen Shepard, is also a novelist. They are on the editorial board of the literary magazine The Common, based at Amherst College.[1]
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