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This Is Not the End of the Book
'The book is like the spoon: once invented, it cannot be bettered.' Umberto Eco
These days it is almost impossible to get away from discussions of whether the 'book' will survive the digital revolution. Blogs, tweets and newspaper articles on the subject appear daily, many of them repetitive, most of them admitting they don't know what will happen. Amidst the twittering, th...more
These days it is almost impossible to get away from discussions of whether the 'book' will survive the digital revolution. Blogs, tweets and newspaper articles on the subject appear daily, many of them repetitive, most of them admitting they don't know what will happen. Amidst the twittering, th...more
Hardcover, 352 pages
Published
May 5th 2011
by Harvill Secker
(first published January 2009)
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I was in Foyle’s bookshop on Charing Cross Road in London earlier this year when I came across this book, just the sort of title I wouldn’t find easily online unless I was actively looking for it. One of the principal pleasures of a real bookshop is the finding of something I'm not looking for, so much more exciting than putting a previously chosen list of titles into an online basket and clicking on checkout. As a faithful reader of paper and ink books in this age of of e-readers (and when I mi...more
This is a rather breezy and inconsequential book with no particularly interesting thoughts. I am however grateful for the knowledge that a certain Archbishop (?) declared from the pulpit of Notre-Dame, to a host of returning aristocrats, 'Not only was Jesus the son of God, but he was of good stock on his mother's side too'. Priceless information which earned it an extra star.
A thoroughly enjoyable book for readers interested in literary theory, philosophy, academics or cultural studies. I digested this book over 3 sittings, and was deeply saddened to have run out of pages. The conversation is engaging and insightful while delving into topics bridging knowledge, culture, and technology with various anecdotes about Eco and Carriere's personal interests and experience. While admitted bibliophiles, Eco and Carriere seriously investigate the purpose, strength and limits...more
Aug 28, 2010
Steffi
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Kürzlich war in den Zeitungen zu lesen, dass Amazon erstmals mehr E-Books als „richtige“ Bücher verkauft habe. Da graut einem vor der Zukunft. Werden bald E-Books in so hoher und die eigentlichen Bücher in so niedriger Stückzahl verkauft, dass nur noch E-Books erschwinglich sind und andere Ausgaben nur noch etwas für den altmodischen, nach Möglichkeit gut betuchten, Buchliebhaber? Gelten Menschen, die in Wohnungen mit langen Bücherregalen leben bald als etwas sonderlich, wenn nicht ungesund? Sch...more
É difícil demais conter o entusiasmo diante deste livro. Vou mencionar os ingredientes e você imagina como ficou a receita:
- 75 kg (aprox.) de Jean-Claude Carrière (1931), francês, roteirista, ator e escritor, colaborador de Luis Buñuel. Pro que nos interessa aqui, escritor de Índia, Um Olhar Amoroso e colaborador de Peter Brook na adaptação pro cinema de Mahabharata. Bibliófilo em boas condições financeiras.
- 90 kg (aprox.) de Umberto Eco (1932), italiano, escritor, ensaísta e intelectual pop-s...more
- 75 kg (aprox.) de Jean-Claude Carrière (1931), francês, roteirista, ator e escritor, colaborador de Luis Buñuel. Pro que nos interessa aqui, escritor de Índia, Um Olhar Amoroso e colaborador de Peter Brook na adaptação pro cinema de Mahabharata. Bibliófilo em boas condições financeiras.
- 90 kg (aprox.) de Umberto Eco (1932), italiano, escritor, ensaísta e intelectual pop-s...more
I sometimes rummage through the racks of the New Arrivals section of my library just to get a kick out of books which I have never before heard of. In one such expedition and upon reading Eco's name, I turned this book around to read the back jacket blurb. One single line made me decide that I wanted to read this book The book is the like the spoon, the hammer or a wheel which once invented cannot be bettered. And so I began my sessions with Umberto Eco and Jean Claude Carriere.
Having never h...more
Having never h...more
seems to be a must for any book lover
read 1/2 and I would just put this quote for now:
"J.-C. C.
Fifteen years ago there was a movement of American writers who protested against the computer on the grounds that because early drafts of a text appeared onscreen already in typeface, they possessed an innate authority that made them harder to analyse or correct. The screen gave them the dignity and status of a text that was already almost published. Another school, on the other hand, believed – like y...more
read 1/2 and I would just put this quote for now:
"J.-C. C.
Fifteen years ago there was a movement of American writers who protested against the computer on the grounds that because early drafts of a text appeared onscreen already in typeface, they possessed an innate authority that made them harder to analyse or correct. The screen gave them the dignity and status of a text that was already almost published. Another school, on the other hand, believed – like y...more
One or two good ideas, masked in a huge pile of pretention. Who curates a conversation ffs?! My copy is annotated with my dad's great comments, which include "crummy" for J.-C.C.'s Vishnu journey through the internet. RU4RL!
Plus, they did very little to argue against the annihilation of the book. It still appears to me that all future paper books will start to dissolve in favour of digital copies, while if you are a book collector you will continue to collect old books... duh.
Here are some alter...more
Plus, they did very little to argue against the annihilation of the book. It still appears to me that all future paper books will start to dissolve in favour of digital copies, while if you are a book collector you will continue to collect old books... duh.
Here are some alter...more
“This is Not the End of the Book”, Umberto Eco & Jean-Claude Carrière (2012) is a brilliant book of conversations; on display, here, are the spontaneity, capacity for retort and the embattled witticisms of two thoroughly entertaining, and well-informed, litterateurs. The book sets itself an ambitious project and then talks its way out of the bargain, but this is its eminent success: the pomposity of the claim to unearth the selcouth provenance which has watched over the longevity of the boo...more
The only reason I am not rating it higher is because the two authors-- Carriere and Eco-- do have moments when they just ramble on and on. After a while, you might want to skim some parts. But that aside, the book is set up as a conversation between the two authors moderated by Jean-Philippe de Tonnac, and it is worth reading. The two have great insights on all sorts of topics related to books, and even on some topics that may barely touch on books. They talk about books, the Internet, libraries...more
"The book is like the spoon: once invented, it cannot be bettered". (Eco)
Contrary to the title, this is not a book in the conventional sense but a conversation on books between polymath and screenwriter that was "curated" by a third party.
Eco and Carriere exchange insider information about book collecting. You can find the occasional bargain, Eco says. “In America, a book in Latin won’t interest the collectors even if it’s terribly rare, because they don’t read foreign languages, and definitely...more
Contrary to the title, this is not a book in the conventional sense but a conversation on books between polymath and screenwriter that was "curated" by a third party.
Eco and Carriere exchange insider information about book collecting. You can find the occasional bargain, Eco says. “In America, a book in Latin won’t interest the collectors even if it’s terribly rare, because they don’t read foreign languages, and definitely...more
Interesting book about books (does that make it a MetaBook?)
I've read and enjoyed a lot of Eco's works, but hadn't heard of Jean-Claude Carriere before. Think I'll be looking for some of his other work now.
Reading about 2 obvious huge bibliophiles talk about boots made me feel better about the number we have around the house. And also removes some of the 'guilt' about not having read everything out there (though I still have plenty of time).
The one fault with the book would be that the format oc...more
I've read and enjoyed a lot of Eco's works, but hadn't heard of Jean-Claude Carriere before. Think I'll be looking for some of his other work now.
Reading about 2 obvious huge bibliophiles talk about boots made me feel better about the number we have around the house. And also removes some of the 'guilt' about not having read everything out there (though I still have plenty of time).
The one fault with the book would be that the format oc...more
Why only three stars? Because it promised more than it delivered. It delivers one key message: that the book will survive because its format doesn't need replacing; it endures like the wheel or the spoon, essentially unchanged in its appeal, portability and beauty. I found it diverting and entertaining but not provocative enough or ground-breaking in any way. Maybe you need to be an Umberto Eco or Jean-Claude Carriere fan to enjoy their confessions and fetishes; there's a lot about their book an...more
this is one of the wonderful books I have read in recent years. IF you are a reader or writer, who loves reading and collecting books for years, it s a must read. It s a conversation between Umberto Eco and Jean Claude Carriere, on books and its history. What will happen to books in a digital age? this question prompts them to think and discuss about the past, present and future of books. I am delighted and enlightened by their sharp thoughts and witty conversation. It makes you feel confident i...more
Ламот Хвалебствений: Като цяло интересна книга. Представлява диалог между Еко и Кариер (с епизодични включвания на Жан Филип дьо Конак), които обсъждат интересни теми свързани с книгите. Дали имат те бъдеще, каква промяна претърпяха с настъпването на интернет, а също коментират интересни факти и събития.
Ламот Критичний : Да ве! Празни приказки общо взето, никому ненужни факти и размишления. Разсъжденията може и сам да си ги направиш, не са кой знае какво. Като че ли не знаеше например как истор...more
Ламот Критичний : Да ве! Празни приказки общо взето, никому ненужни факти и размишления. Разсъжденията може и сам да си ги направиш, не са кой знае какво. Като че ли не знаеше например как истор...more
Книги, книги и книги... в наше время - множество поводов задуматься над собственным отношением. Вот только жаль, что авторы лишь едва коснулись судьбы книг в век информационных технологий. А хотелось бы, помимо открытых вопросов, также услушать как они себе представляют будущее книги, чтения, библиотек...
This was a fabulous book. As someone who reads almost exclusively in ebook these days, I expected lots of curmudgeonly stuff about the superiority of paper. But Eco and his co-authors are too educated for that. They have all been around for long enough to see technology---and mediums---come and go. After all the library burnings, conveyance mechanisms (stone tablet, papyrus etc. all the way up through modern computers and so on) and historical trends they have studied and seen, they understand t...more
Also, wenn Eco und Carriere sich unterhalten, dann geht aber der Zug in Sachen "höhere Bildung" ab. Die beiden Herren tauschen sich nicht nur über ihre bibliophile Sammelleidenschaft aus, sondern auch über alles, was in den Büchern so drin steht - ein paar Lebensweisheiten eingeschlossen - und wer hätte gedacht, dass dabei auch Karl Valentin zitiert wird. Kurzweilig zu lesen - nichts für bildungsferne Schmökerleser.
The title has it wrong -- not at all an argument that the book must survive in its past form. Two erudite book lovers reminisce near the end of their collecting lives, considering the book and what it means to them. More "This is the Book at my End". A delight to read. If it only contained the quotations assembled by these two men, it would be a worthwhile anthology of thoughts. Their own additions are invaluable.
Happily a brilliant book to read on the train as it is immersible and divided into short segments so you can be distracted by the chap who takes your ticket or the snack cart.
Sadly this also means that there is very little overall narrative and, although I thoroughly enjoyed J-C Carriere and Umberto Eco's discussion, because it reads like listening in on a discussion the book doesn't ever seem to come to a point.
Highly recommend, but not actually earth (or mind) shaking.
Sadly this also means that there is very little overall narrative and, although I thoroughly enjoyed J-C Carriere and Umberto Eco's discussion, because it reads like listening in on a discussion the book doesn't ever seem to come to a point.
Highly recommend, but not actually earth (or mind) shaking.
What a joy to eavesdrop on the conversations of two extraordinary bibliophiles. It is fascinating to delve into their knowledge of arcane areas of literature and listen to anecdotes of collecting great works. Reassuring to hear of people facing similar problems to myself on the issues reading and not reading, storage and shelves. From the sublimely intelligent to the utterly banal. It will be a pleasure to re-join the conversation from time-to-time.
Although I was enjoying the banter back and forth, and I understood a lot of their arguments, I didn't feel the need to finish this book. The authors just seemed to go around in circles with their debate about the future of books, looking more to history of the book than anything else.
Maybe I just wasn't in the mood for circular logics, and it may be that I will come around and return to this book and indeed finish what I started.
It was kind of fun, in a geeky sort of way.
Maybe I just wasn't in the mood for circular logics, and it may be that I will come around and return to this book and indeed finish what I started.
It was kind of fun, in a geeky sort of way.
Although being a major fan of both Carriere and Eco, I found their tone too nostalgic and reactionary. I expected to hear more about ebook readers & "digital cosmology". Perhaps if the late Baudrillard and Zizek had met and started to talk about books, the rhythm and content of the discussion would have been much more spectacular.
I looked forward to this book but found it tedious.
Carrière and Eco converse about the influences of the digital age on the book. They boast about their vast book achievements, ramble on until they decide that the book will continue as it stands or be replaced by something resembling the book.
Am I supposed to take this seriously?
Carrière and Eco converse about the influences of the digital age on the book. They boast about their vast book achievements, ramble on until they decide that the book will continue as it stands or be replaced by something resembling the book.
Am I supposed to take this seriously?
This book. It's amazing.
I think I knew it would became one of my favorites long before I finished it. It was a joyous travel in the world of books. Just the right amount of history, personal stories, antropology and so much more. Very balanced and enjoyable. Any book lover need to read this.
If not now, at least in the next three years. :-)
I think I knew it would became one of my favorites long before I finished it. It was a joyous travel in the world of books. Just the right amount of history, personal stories, antropology and so much more. Very balanced and enjoyable. Any book lover need to read this.
If not now, at least in the next three years. :-)
Jun 12, 2012
Farah Aridi
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Very fun conversation between two experts, one of whom is my favorite (Eco). You can learn a lot through their talks about the history of the book and share with both of them the passion of books and reading. A very fast and recommendable read!
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Umberto Eco is an Italian writer of fiction, essays, academic texts, and children's books, and certainly one of the finest authors of the twentieth century. A professor of semiotics at the University of Bologna, Eco’s brilliant fiction is known for its playful use of language and symbols, its astonishing array of allusions and references, and clever use of puzzles and narrative inventions. His per...more
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