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Out of the Darkness (Dark Horse #2)

by Kate Sherwood (Goodreads Author)

4.18 of 5 stars 4.18 · rating details · 675 ratings · 89 reviews

Sequel to Dark Horse "It's hard enough with two people. Throwing a third into the mix is... I don't know, doesn't it seem like we're asking for trouble?" It hasn't been easy, but horse trainer Dan Wheeler is beginning to build a new life for himself, finding his place in California with his lovers Evan Kaminski and Jeff Stevens. When things are going well, it's spectacular...more

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Published August 9th 2010 by Dreamspinner Press

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Apr 11, 2013 Baba ♥♥♥ Marcus, Tyler, Tate, Dan, Ty, & Hunter rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: m-m, m-m-age-gap, love-triangle, kate-sherwood, books-kelly-and-baba-liked-or-loved

4.5 stars.****Review completed April 11, 2013

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"Nah. It's art. It's not about intelligence--although if it was, you'd have no problem, Dan--but it's more just about impressions, or feelings. Just look at them and let your mind go, see where it takes you."
"So, art's kind of like an acid trip?"
"Good art is." Jeff's voice is warm and rumbling, and Dan really wants to haul his ass into the truck and drive them somewhere private. They have got to get the rules worked out.(…)

Loved it!

Out of the Darkn...more

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Apr 22, 2013 It's just me Shelly B rated it 5 of 5 stars

Recommended to It's just me Shelly B by: Baba ♥♥♥ Marcus, Tyler, Tate, Dan, Ty, & Hunter

Shelves: cowboys, m-m, best-of-the-best

Let me just start by saying that before starting this book I had doubts that it could be as good as the first book in this series, I'm very happy to say I wrong...very wrong...this book was even BETTER than the first!!!!!

So did I love it.......

Yes I DID!!!!!!!!!

In this book Dan is settled in California and trying to battle his past and trying to figure out how and where he fits in, with this love triangle. Evan and Jeff are trying to be patient with him and help him through all this but tempers...more

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Oct 27, 2010 Kassa rated it 3 of 5 stars

Out of the Darkness is the sequel to Dark Horse and you must read the first to really appreciate the second. As a follow up, the story establishes the threesome and gives hope that they will finally work things out to stay together. Unfortunately the story isn’t as engaging and interesting as the previous book and I found myself wondering why the characters made the choices they did. There is a definite lack of context to Jeff and Evan that is a glaring hole in the third person, present tense wr...more Out of the Darkness is the sequel to Dark Horse and you must read the first to really appreciate the second. As a follow up, the story establishes the threesome and gives hope that they will finally work things out to stay together. Unfortunately the story isn’t as engaging and interesting as the previous book and I found myself wondering why the characters made the choices they did. There is a definite lack of context to Jeff and Evan that is a glaring hole in the third person, present tense writing. Those that liked the first book will definitely want to continue with this relationship but it didn’t keep my attention nearly as much as Dark Horse.

Picking up where the first book left off, Dan is newly involved with Jeff and Evan. Dan is not only getting over the death of his lover but he’s trying to navigate the sticky waters of a threesome. His emotions are all over the place and he bounces between wanting to make it work and wanting to bail. Add in some horse drama, ex’s and friends that all have opinions, and finally some sex to make a complicated story but one that has a happy ending.

The story is told from Dan’s third person perspective but in present tense. This takes a while to get used to and even more so in this offering. The story starts kind of slow with Evan’s precocious younger sister in a horse related accident. Of course Evan freaks out and Dan retreats to his shell, leaving Jeff to bring the two together and mend fences. This sets up the pattern for the book as Evan and Dan clash repeatedly, leaving Jeff as the force that makes them work things out and continue. On the one hand, this sets up a good dynamic that makes every person important to the relationship. Yet on the flip side, Evan and Dan only seem to be together for the sexual chemistry and because they both want Jeff.

Dan comes across as pretty selfish here as he struggles to find his footing in the relationship. He gets jealous about Jeff and Evan being together, yet takes advantage of alone time with both men. Jeff and Evan seem to bend over backwards to make Dan feel wanted, desired, and let him set the pace and the rules. I kept wondering why since there is nothing offered from their perspective. I couldn’t understand why either of these men decided so vehemently they wanted a relationship with Dan, who is prickly, aggressive, and riddled with rules about what he allows and what he doesn’t. His bouncing back and forth between wanting in or out of the relationship goes on until the very end with ultimately Dan making the decision.

Dan’s not a bad guy really but he’s complicated with a lot of issues and he demands a lot from his lovers. They give it with few qualms but it didn’t quite make sense why they were so willing to work for this relationship. Perhaps it’s the sex, which apparently is great between the men. There’s not much sex in the book though, a few quickie blowjobs and a few threesomes that are fade to black so I couldn’t really get a handle on this energy that is supposedly so explosive between them. Instead Dan comes across as melodramatic and often self centered. Since there is very little development offered to Jeff and Evan, they remain mysterious.

The writing is good and once the story picks up, rather engaging. It’s slow to start and Dan is the sole character of note. There are a few outside influences from Evan’s friends, Jeff’s mother, Dan’s ex and so on that make appearances. These mostly help to move the story along while Dan emotionally waffles on his choices. These side characters also help keep the tension alive without being so emotional that the reader gets frustrated. They offer outlets for Dan’s angst and help even out the otherwise rocky pace and tone.

Overall this is a decent sequel to the first book but not as good unfortunately. The epilogue however is a nice way to end the story with all the characters happy and settled.
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Sep 05, 2010 Danielle rated it 4 of 5 stars

I have been waiting patiently to read this book. Dark Horse was so moving and left me wanting more so easily. Its sequel, Out of the Darkness, didn't disappoint. The characters were still distinct and engaging. This is really a character driven story, and the author uses that to its full advantage. It looses one star because I still feel a bit skeptical of Evan and Dan's relationship without Jeff's influence.

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Aug 14, 2010 Cait Miller rated it 5 of 5 stars

What can I say about this book? Out Of The Darkness took all the promise from Dark Horse and fulfilled it. I was once again taken through every emotion until I was ultimately left with the contented sigh of a happy ending. Read it. But read Dark Horse first, you won't regret it. Just make sure you have a couple of free days because I guarantee you won't want to put them down.

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Sep 18, 2010 Deanna rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: contemporary, m-m, cowboy, ebook

This was good, but I didn't enjoy it as much as Dark Horse. The back & forth between "I'm all invested in this" and "This is too scary it will never work let's call it quits" was a little tiring. I really liked the first 3/4 of the story. And the ending was nice - not too sappy or dramatic. Something just bugged me about the part in between.

But it was nice to revisit Dan and Chris. They are both great characters.

Edited to say: Was the flagrant use of dude! and man! as present in the first bo...more

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Aug 20, 2010 Mandi rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: romance-mmm-or-more

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Apr 08, 2013 Danielle rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: 2013, mm, important-creatures, menage

This one is better than the first and probably closer to 3.5 stars but I rounded down because I'm currently really angry at my kobo. So the rounding down really has more to do with my frustration than the actual book.

I'm going to keep this short since I want to keep reading. But my goodness Dan what the freak is wrong with you? He has such a strange personality. So flaky and cranky and depressing. He got better as the book went on but I was reaching my boiling point with his inability to commit...more

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Apr 10, 2011 momokaachan rated it 5 of 5 stars Recommends it for: Anyone who likes m-m romance series

Shelves: mm, series

Oh, lord...just when I thought it couldn't get any better - Kate Sherwood picked up from Dark Horse and made it - maybe better? More defined? Ends wrapped up? All of the above?

I will reiterate from my review of Dark Horse that I have immense respect for Ms. Sherwood's use of present tense. It is VERY difficult to write a story this way and have it come off successfully.

Only one thing really threw me and I almost subtracted a star for it - was it just the copy I got (of the first book or this one...more

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Apr 01, 2011 Shira Anthony rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: angst, m-m-slash, open-relationship, smut, tearjerker, to-re-read, menage

I loved this series by Kate Sherwood, although I hadn't really expected I would enjoy it as much as I did. The idea of a threesome relationship working - interesting. But I think what made it work was the thought that Ms. Sherwood put into exploring the difficulties that would come with a menage. Excellent sequel to "Dark Horse." In some ways, I enjoyed this book even more than the first!

MILD SPOILERS: (view spoiler)...more I loved this series by Kate Sherwood, although I hadn't really expected I would enjoy it as much as I did. The idea of a threesome relationship working - interesting. But I think what made it work was the thought that Ms. Sherwood put into exploring the difficulties that would come with a menage. Excellent sequel to "Dark Horse." In some ways, I enjoyed this book even more than the first!

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This book is really focused on Dan and his thoughts about the relationship. Written in the same third-person, present-tense narrative as its predecessor, Ms. Sherwood follows Dan's growth and, ultimately, acceptance of the possibilities the relationship presents.

The weakest link, I think, was the character of Evan, who comes off as immature and a bit shallow. There are hints of more, but they aren't (unfortunately) explored much. Jeff, on the other hand, is the older/wiser man, an artist with a warm heart who keeps the younger boys from strangling eachother (when they're not making out, that is!)

The real strength in this book is in Ms. Sherwood's ability to explore the problems a three-way ("duogamous") relationship raises. Mostly, these have to do with jealousy. Dan is a late-comer to the relationship, since Evan and Jeff have been together a long time. He feels like a third-wheel a lot of the time. Evan is jealous whenever Dan is with another man as a friend - Evan senses that Dan is afraid of commitment, and he doesn't trust Dan. This pisses Dan off. Jeff fears the younger men won't want him because he's older.

As I read this book, I couldn't help but marvel at the author's ability to juggle the three characters. The sex scenes were yummy, and there were plenty for my taste. This story is really less about the sex than about the relationships involved.

Sweet, satisfying story. One I will return to again and again, I think!(less)

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Oct 26, 2010 Elisa Ramblings added it · review of another edition

As it was in the first book, Dark Horse, Out of the Darkness is a menages a trois story that doesn’t take lightly the balancing problem these relationship usually have.

Evan and Jeff are an established, and open, couple. I’m not sure I would like them so much if not for the addition of Dan, and this is strange for me since I usually am not very fond of menages. But the interaction between Evan and Jeff had a bit too much the feeling of conventional, meaning that Evan and Jeff seem to be together...more As it was in the first book, Dark Horse, Out of the Darkness is a menages a trois story that doesn’t take lightly the balancing problem these relationship usually have.

Evan and Jeff are an established, and open, couple. I’m not sure I would like them so much if not for the addition of Dan, and this is strange for me since I usually am not very fond of menages. But the interaction between Evan and Jeff had a bit too much the feeling of conventional, meaning that Evan and Jeff seem to be together since they are used to. Jeff has also a paternalistic approach that in a way is good, it is very useful with Dan and his issue in accepting some things of this new relationship, but sometime I found it annoying. On the other hand Evan sometime seemed to much shallow like nothing really matter to him if not his own family: if Dan wanted to be part of that family, good, if not, well in the end he always has Jeff and so he is good.

I think Dan really tried to understand the dynamics among the three of them, and he also realized that something had to be corrected. I had the feeling that Dan is more attracted to Jeff, that in a contest between Jeff and Evan his choice would be for Jeff, but Dan also understands that Jeff without Evan is not an option and so he has to adapt. Moreover, like I said, Dan realizes that both of them, Evan and him, are relying a bit too much on Jeff, and that is an unbalancing factor: they need to lower their dependency on Jeff, and at the same time trying to rebalance what it is between them, Dan and Evan, despite Jeff’s presence.

The pacing of the book, like I remember it was in the first one, is quite slow, and there is a lot of overthinking; in a way, even if they find an agreement, until the end there is still the little feeling that things are not yet perfect, that there is room for improvement. This is not only the story of how a menages was born and developed, but it’s also the making of a new family: Dan, Jeff and Evan are not the only ones involved, Tatiana, Evan’s sister is for sure another element to consider. It’s not clearly stated, but I think that she is a cons in the list of Dan to try to make things work, and the fact that she is basically the main character of the prologue and epilogue I think it means something.

Despite more than 300 pages and being this a romance, sex is not really the main course: when there is sex, it’s more something in the contest of the story than a recreational activity (both for the ones involved than the reader). Actually I think this is one of the few romance that doesn’t end with a sex scene to reconcile all parties involved, and instead it presents a family picture, where for family it’s intended the extended concept.

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Oct 05, 2010 Kate added it · review of another edition

I liked this. I really enjoy Kate Sherwood's writing style and Dan is a character that just keeps on giving. It was a nice continuation of Dark Horse.

I'm not sure I buy the cementing of the relationship between the three guys, though. Dan's injury wouldn't have changed the dynamics between the three men, so I never felt they resolved the various issues that kept driving them apart. And I really didn't like the extended feel-good Thanksgiving epilogue. It felt tacked on.

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Aug 12, 2010 Andi rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: eros-rising

Kate Sherwood told the story of Dan, Evan and Jeff over the course of two books, and it was an extremely intelligent choice on her part. With three characters from such disparate backgrounds and carrying lots of unmatched baggage, to rush the relationship and gloss over the inevitable difficulties would have been a mistake. As it is, she took her time and let the characters go through a gradual journey, complete with missteps and plenty of misunderstandings.

Along similar lines, I felt the author...more

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Feb 23, 2013 Maggie Simms rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: angst, gay, menage

I enjoyed this book better than the first one. At least it had a lot more of the three men together even with all the ups and downs. Lots of angst in this book! Yay! The scenes are totally hot! I also enjoyed that the author picked up the pace in book 2.

Loved Chris! I was so happy to see more of him. Dan was a bit annoying since a lot of his wounds were self-inflicted. He sure is a drama queen. It was nice to see Tat interacting with them as well. Loved Jeff’s mom too.

Once again, there was too...more

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Apr 09, 2013 Christina rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: m-m-romance, menage, cowboys

Out of the Darkness takes place immediately after Dark Horse. While Dan is trying to find his place with Jeff and Evan, he's still constantly over-thinking every step of the way. This book further highlights the imbalance in their relationship. I love the connection between Dan and Jeff. Jeff is the calming force in the relationship. He's strong, self-assured, and has an ability to bring everyone together. Although, we find that this isn't always the case, even Jeff has his doubts and fears. As...more

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Feb 01, 2013 Rellik rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: novel

In a way I like this one more than its predecessor, since there more about the relationship between Dan, Evan and Jeff. However, I was confused by the change in Dan's character who went from (in my opinion) a reasonable guy to ultra jealous (understandable when he feels left out by the other two, but with their ex? Didn't make much sense to me). There's also the end of the book (view spoiler)...more

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Nov 19, 2011 Trix rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: angst, cowboy, mm-novels, threesome

Overall I would give this a 3.5 star rating.

I admit the plot line was very interesting and the story contained quite a number of issues the threesome had to overcome, most of which even couples had to endure. Lack of trust, insecurities, former hurts, jealousy, establishing one's worth and status within the relationship, coming to terms with a less than perfect past and how much of it influences your present and future.

All three characters were flawed but you loved them more because of them, be...more

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May 24, 2011 Lee rated it 4 of 5 stars

Out of the Darkness, book two in the Dark Horse series, picks up directly from where book one ends. It's a very smooth transition and all of the MCs are present along with several newly introduced characters. Let me start of by saying that I liked the book, it's very well written and edited, and Ms. Sherwood shines when she's writing about horses. Her love and passion shows through. (view spoiler)...more

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Aug 28, 2010 Adara rated it 4 of 5 stars

As the second part to the book Dark Horse, taking place immediately where the that story ends, you really need to read it before you read this one. Fortunately, they will both suck you in quickly to the story and the people.

This one didn't hit me quite as emotionally as the first, but it was very good to see that problems didn't just magically solve themselves or disappear. Where the first ends more HFN, this one ends closer to a HEA, though it could still be seen as a HFN depending on your own...more

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Dec 10, 2011 Fangtasia rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

The title seems to suggest a lightening of the harrowing pain and angst in the first book, Dark Horse, but the reality for me was more like "misunderstandings, drama, and insecurity explored." Yes, it's a much more realistic menage scenario than what others have written, but did it have to be so incredibly detailed?

It stands to reason that there will be issues with integrating Dan to their lives, because Evan and Jeff hardly know him. Dan doesn't know them much either. Plus, with all the baggage...more The title seems to suggest a lightening of the harrowing pain and angst in the first book, Dark Horse, but the reality for me was more like "misunderstandings, drama, and insecurity explored." Yes, it's a much more realistic menage scenario than what others have written, but did it have to be so incredibly detailed?

It stands to reason that there will be issues with integrating Dan to their lives, because Evan and Jeff hardly know him. Dan doesn't know them much either. Plus, with all the baggage Dan brings, it's a no-brainer their journey into "triad-hood" is going to be rocky. The plot indicates that Evan and Jeff as a couple were headed for the rocks if they didn't change something. The change they settled on is adding Dan, but the plot development doesn't allow for them to take the time to share much time together. Each one has his own job, they live in separate places, hardly do anything where all three are in the same place at the same time. Then, before anything is defined or even discussed in their relationship, outside influences from friends and town's people make an unwelcome appearance. That is the conflict on which this story is based. I have to say, it's reasonable, but could have been handled better.

The characters are as good as ever, it's just the plot and its development that falls short. That and the over-use of certain words and phrases that kept yanking me out of the story, stuff that a good beta would have caught and called the author on. For example, the ubiquitous "man", "dude", and the ever present "Yeah, okay." Every other dialog tag started with this last. If every character talks the same way, I tend to lose the ability to differentiate who's speaking and just think I'm reading the author's thoughts. Not good, at all.

Even with these issues, and the present tense writing (which I hate with a vengeance!), I'll sure be buying and reading the next installment. The characters are so incredibly good that I need to see their HEA. Or at least a scene where someone smacks Dan upside the head and tells him to stop being a drama queen. (less)

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Sep 30, 2011 Kate Sherwood added it · (Review from the author) · review of another edition

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My second book. It's the sequel to the first (Dark Horse) and I really didn't understand how long books should be...which means that I wrote quite a bit extra. If you're interested, the extras should be published (for free) starting in October 2011 as a lead-up to the publication of the third book in the series (working title=Of Dark and Bright).

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Mar 15, 2012 Michael rated it 5 of 5 stars

Many times when I read a series of books by an author, the central idea has weakened and been used up well before the series ends. Not so with this series. From the first word of the first page of the first book right through all of the follow-up books and stories of the series I have thoroughly enjoyed each and every twist and turn and challenge. The story has not grown stale or weary but has gotten stronger. A lot of writers could take a lesson from this author as to how to do it right.

Her cas...more

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Sep 16, 2011 Susan65-Coug :-) rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: absolute-favorites

I loved this book and the first one, Dark Horses, a lot. The stories are long and emotion filled...sometimes too emotional. The author did a great job of painting a story that seemed more fact based than fiction. More than once i got the opinion that she was writing from experience and not just telling a story.

I really liked Dan, Evan and Jeff together but many times I just didn't think they would be able to get past their many differences.

The Justin factor was completely heartbreaking
and at ti...more

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Nov 29, 2010 Kira rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: m-m, best-of-the-best, menage, re-reads, favorites, family

After reading Dark Horse I went immediately to search a possible sequel. Luckily there was one and one that was just as great as the first book was, at that!

I loved to be able to see deeper in the world of these guys. Things might have calmed down a bit, but nothing is still as easy as you'd think. The insecurities are there, the misunderstandings and misplaced pride. None of the characters lost their integrity or did anything out of character, which I especially loved.

The horses are still there...more

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Sep 08, 2012 Bea rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: male-male, angst, artist, businessman, cowboys, poly, goodreads-review

Really, this book is a part two and I read and rate it as if they are one book.

This one is shorter, the romance is less about them getting together, but if/how they can survive together. We have three separate strong willed males trying to make a situation work for all.

Really, I would give this one a 4.5, but round up. I was lass fanatic about finishing this one than the first, but now that I am almost finished reading the third one (at 1:40am) I want to start re-reading the series again.

So obv...more

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Aug 13, 2010 Crissy Smith rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: cowboy-western, e-book-series

This was a great sequel to the book Dark Horse. It takes place where the other book left off and not too much time has passed so you can catch up and not feel like you missed too much.

Dan is still unsure about his relationship with Evan and Jeff. But Evan and Jeff have their own concerns and confusion.

Their journey is not an easy one but the characters are well written and you almost feel what they do.

I enjoyed the book, not as much as the first, but it was good. And if you read Dark Horse you r...more

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Aug 30, 2010 Sarah rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: contemporary, glbt-fiction

I was pretty excited to see the new novel from Kate Sherwood. Out Of The Darkness is the second part of her menage series set in horse country in California. I really enjoyed the first book as there was loads of horses, great story telling and a fairly realistic look at how a menage would work.

It took longer to get into the second novel. The power dynamics between the chracters were a little off and often the angst slowed down the story and it didn’t seem to move forward as well as the first boo...more

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Sep 12, 2011 Kaje Harper rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: m-m

I liked this continuation of Dan, Jeff and Evan's story a lot, and yet it didn't work quite as well as the first book for me. I wasn't completely convinced that Dan and Evan had a strong enough relationship (other than sex) without Jeff connecting them, to make the trio really balance out. Dan's emotions bounce around a lot and he sometimes seems a little unreasonable. But this is still an engaging story with a great equestrian setting, interesting secondary characters, and three heroes who dese...more

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Aug 22, 2012 Aurora rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: contemporary

Dan is beginning to settle into his new life in California and things are going well at the stables but not so much in his private life. Having taking the decision to become involved in a three way relationship with Jeff and Evan, Dan is still struggling to find his place.

Dan’s insecurities surface when Jeff exhibits his paintings in a small gallery and Evan’s rich friends come to visit, making Dan feel like he doesn’t belong in their world. In addition, Evan is showing signs of possessiveness t...more

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Oct 25, 2011 JustJen rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: mm

I loved this book as much as the first one. There were times, however, when Dan's wishy washy attitude about the relationship got a bit old, but I found I was able to forgive it in the end. I kept waiting for Chris (not puppet-Chris, whom I also love) to make some kind of confession in one of his heart-to-heart's with Dan, but it never happened. The three MCs compliment each other well, and I believe the relationship would not work without all of them to balance it out. The story finished up nic...more

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