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El fuego (The Eight #2)

3.18 of 5 stars 3.18  ·  rating details  ·  4,271 ratings  ·  545 reviews
Colorado, 2003: Alexandra Solarin recibe una inesperada invitación a la fiesta de cumpleaños de su madre, Catherine Velis, quien nunca antes había celebrado este día. Años atrás, la propia Cat, junto a su marido, había repartido por diferentes países del mundo las fabulosas piezas del ajedrez de Montglane para que nadie nunca pudiera reunirlas y hacerse con el secreto pode ...more
Hardcover, 543 pages
Published 2008 by Plaza & Janés
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I really, really wanted to love this book. Really. I liked it okay... but the love just wasn't there. It's a sequel to one of my favorite books ever - The Eight - and I had high hopes, but also reservations about whether the author could capture the magic of The Eight. Unfortunately, she did not. I can't even tell you what it is about The Eight that gives it that extra spark - or that extra bonfire - whatever it is that makes it one of the coolest books ever. But The Eight has it, while The Fire ...more
I am very disappointed to say that I had to give up on this book about halfway through. (See below to read what I had to say when I began it.) It's not awful, but ... it was way too easy to put it down and pick up other books. Oh, well.

I wrote earlier: [I've been waiting for this sequel to THE EIGHT for ever. Hooray! Okay, sure, I admit that in countless ways THE EIGHT was preposterous and silly. I loved it. Which makes me as frightened to read THE FIRE as I am eager... what if it's not as fun
Iowa City Public Library
It’s been five years since The Da Vinci Code triggered an avalanche of imitators–thrillers featuring codes and ciphers, arcane knowledge, and ancient conspiracies. To me, the book that most resembled it was Katherine Neville’s The Eight, which was actually written 15 years before the Code. Positing a thousand year old chess set with alchemical powers, and a larger Game with geopolitical implications, the book acquired something of a cult, and, after 20 years, a sequel.

The Fire finds Alexandra So
Leigh Statham
Ok.. I really really really loved reading Katherine Neville's book "The Eight" several years ago. I still think it's a great little book. So I was super excited to hear that she wrote a sequel. It was all down hill from there. I struggled through the opening chapters full of obscure middle eastern names and theories but I hung in there because I thought it would pay off in the end. Every corner that the story turned I thought I would finally get to the good part. But every time the bad guy was g ...more
Λοιπόν,λοιπόν...Για να δούμε τι μπορώ να πω για αυτό το βιβλίο..
Πρώτον ότι ήταν καλό
Δεύτερον όχι τόσο καλό όσο το Οχτώ
Είχε πάλι τα quotes στην αρχή του κάθε κεφαλαίου που μου άρεσε αυτό. Αλλά πάλι είχε πολύ λεπτομέρεια. Όπως το προηγούμενο. Το καλό με αυτό ήταν ότι είχε 567 σελίδες(ουφ!) οι οποίες είναι λιγότερες σε σχέση με το προηγούμενο. Το κακό όμως είναι ότι μοιάζει με ένα καλούτσικο sequel ενός βιβλίου που έκανε μπαμ. Είναι σαν μια συμπυκνωμένη έκδοση του Οχτώ. Αλλά και πάλι είναι καλό. Χ

I didn't even finish the book, which is rare for me. This was just so painful and tedious to read, I couldn't stand it. There were parts where it seemed like Neville just took her historical research and put it into the mouths of the characters (and I use that term loosely) verbatim. The whole book felt like an attempt to cash in on the "DaVinci Code" craze for powerful-hidden-conspiracies-uncovered-by-deciphering-clues novels.

I am dreading going back and taking another look at "The Eight,
Giving "The Fire" only one star might not be fair, but I just can't help it, having waited like FOREVER (and even sounding like a Twilight Fangirl here) for a sequel of the ingenious "The Eight".

Since the predecessor was SO very very good it robs me of any more creative adjectives, I had such a high expectation of "The Fire".
But it didn't really deliver... What's with the lead character going on and on, and not to mention total lack of chemistry whatsoever between Alexandra and her
The author herself describes the predecessor to this book (The Eight) by saying there were no other books like it. She goes on to say that she never intended to write any followups. She really should have taken her own words of wisdom to heart (as Key would say).

This book had too many ideas, names, subnames and places and not nearly enough action. There is literally one action scene, 15 pages from the end of the book and it is tied up nicely, ex machina, with no one getting hurt. The characters
I picked this book up at a local thrift store that sells as many books as you can fit into a Walmart-esque bag for $4.99 (and I can fit a lot of books into this bag). So far, I have picked up books I have never heard of and have been extremely satisfied with my choices. I did not, until after reading it, discover that it was the second book, and yet I really had no problem understanding the story, despite some of the chess talk I didn't quite understand. A great book!! Full of action and intrigu ...more
Empezaré diciendo que terminé de leer The Eight a pura fuerza de voluntad porque me pareció que la escritora alargó demasiado la historia y que por eso se había vuelto pesada. Pero le di crédito por crear misterio y drama.

Pese a ese antecedente, compré el libro porque quería saber el verdadero final de la historia. Sin embargo, con esta secuela me he convencido de que no volveré a leer más los libros de esta autora. La historia de Solarin y Cat se repite con su hija... en muchas maneras. La narr
I got an Advanced Reader's Edition of this title and was so excited as The Eight is a book I recommend to everyone.

This book was extremely difficult for me to be engaged with as there were too many characters and the plot seemed somewhat disjointed.

Πάνος Τουρλής
Αχ αχ αχ...Λοιπόν. Παρασάγγας καλύτερο το Οκτώ. Αγωνία, μυστήριο, ανατροπές, συμπτώσεις, Γαλλική Επανάσταση, Ναπολέων, Αλγερία. Ποιοι οι κακοί και ποιοι οι καλοί;Τα Μαύρα πιόνια είναι οι καλοί και τα Άσπρα οι κακοί. Κι όλα αυτά για το ελιξήριο της ζωής και της αθανασίας. Ταλεϊράνδος, Ελευθεροτέκτονες, Βολταίρος, Ρουσσώ, Αικατερίνη της Ρωσίας και Αλέξανδρος, Ναπολέων, Νεύτωνας και τόσοι άλλοι. Και μετά από 20 χρόνια αυτό; Γκουχ γκουχ.

Ειλικρινά έπρεπε η συγγραφέας να σωπάσει. Έκανε ένα σφιχτοδεμέν
I have to admit I was a little disappointed in this sequel. I absolutely loved The Eight. I loved Cat, Solarin, Mordecai, Lily and the whole crew. While we do see some of the old crew back this book covers the next generation which I was fine with but I felt like the secrets behind the numbers and puzzles just did not grab me as much. The storyline was a little weak to me. It was easy to predict how the relationship between Alexandra and Vartan would develop. I also couldn’t bring myself to like ...more
Like millions of readers around the world, I have eagerly awaited a sequel to "The Eight." Twenty years after publication of the original, Neville brings forth a work that is just as entertaining and delightful as its parent work.

With plotlines taken directly from the headlines, "The Fire" focuses on Alexandra Solarin, daughter of Catherine and Aleksandr (two of the main characters in "The Eight"). On the verge of becoming the youngest grandmaster in the history of the game, she stops playing, a
Nov 28, 2008 Kelly rated it 2 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: patient readers of historic adventures and math / chess fans
Shelves: quest
I waited a long time for this book. It's a sequel to The Eight, which was unlike anything else when it came out in the late 1980s. It was based on this idea of a fabulous, ancient chess set endowed with power, which pulls the people around it into The Game. The sequel, like the original, moves back and forth through time, and incorporates math, patterns, chess, urban planning, brainy heroines, romantic men, historic interpretation, and unusual settings. What I liked best about both books is the ...more
Elizabeth K.
I have very mixed feelings about this, it's the sequel to The Eight. It's the kind of sequel where you very much have to have read the first book, it wouldn't stand alone very well at all. Now, I almost always like a sequel AT LEAST in the sense that I like to know what happens to everyone after. Sometimes I have heard people, when talking about a favorite book, claim that it's better NOT to know, that a sequel would only ruin things. That, my friends, is the talk of crazy people. So on the one ...more
Nancy Oakes
I don't know why we can't give half stars, but I'd give this one 3.5.

Years ago, when it first came out, I read Katherine Neville's The Eight. I LOVED that book. I remember that I was tent camping in the woods of Washington State, and there was a really big thunderstorm outside complete with the requisite lightning bolts. My flashlight was running out of batteries as I came to the end and I did everything possible to make those batteries last until I finished the book. I still have that copy on m
Wisteria Leigh
The Fire, by Katherine Neville was such a huge disappointment. I like many others, was mesmerized by The Eight, written twenty years ago. I would often wonder what happened to the author? I yearned, craved another book as an addict seeks his next high. When The Fire was offered as part of the Early Reviewer program, I was naturally delirious. Finally, the long drought from Ms. Neville would be appeased. Sadly, after reading The Fire, I cannot recommend this book with the same enthusiasm or promi ...more
Joyce Lagow
An Early Reviewer book.[return][return]Twenty years ago, Neville published The Eight, which I read around that time. I reread The Eight recently, in order to prepare myself for the sequel, The Fire. I didn t change my opinion of The Eight good but writing that struck me as almost juvenile. The plot itself is hard to describe in terms of genre. Chess forms the matrix of the story. Puzzles (a la The Da Vinci Code, which was published much later, in 2003), murders, quests, history, two time frames ...more
Javier Atapuerca
The Eight fue un libro que disfruté mucho. La trama me enganchó. Los personajes me atrajeron. La doble narración, pasada y presente, me interesó. Fue un libro que me gustó.

El Fuego en cambio, e irónicamente, me dejó muy frío. Quizá el estilo del libro ya no era una novedad para mí. Igual se me pasó el tiempo de este tipo de novelas, no lo sé. Ya el libro de la misma autora The Magic Circle me había dejado muy poco convencido. Algo me fallaba que había encontrado en The Eight.

Y eso que cogí el
Given that I very much enjoyed The Eight, even on a re-read, this one was disappointing, for a number of reasons.

First, it was kind of confusing, particularly in terms of who was a player and what role they played and for which side (or if sides even mattered). The role of the White Queen in particular, seemed like it was passed around so much I got whiplash trying to keep track. I'm sure this is deliberate, and meant to mirror Alexandra's own confusion, but it just wasn't well-handled. I think
I absolutely LOVED The Eight by Katherine Neville. I wouldn't say it was for everyone; not everyone likes complex plots that have your head spinning at times, but I do. I'm sure people who understand and play chess enjoyed it even more than I did.[return][return]However, I've been reading The Fire, a sequel to The Eight, for over two weeks now. I get drawn into the story in parts and then have no problem putting it down in the next chapter. I find myself picking up other things to read rather th ...more
I read Katherine Neville's "The Eight" at the urging of a friend when I was a teenager and was bowled over by it, so when the sequel came out I decided I had to re-read the original first and then move on to "The Fire." Unfortunately, "The Eight" didn't stand up to a re-read, and "The Fire" was much, much worse.

"The Fire" fails as a narrative, let alone as a mystery, adventure or thriller. Neville has no notion of transition, and she wrenches the reader from place to place and from time period t
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Julie Adams
A dismal disappointment, especially because I was so enthralled by "The Eight" that I've reread it several times.

It's fairly easy to determine what happened here. Neville had advertised for years that she was working on a sequel to "The Eight," but it never materialized. My guess: the higher-ups at the publisher finally called in their chits.

Nearly every thought here is underdeveloped or, worse - OVERexplained. There is much chasing after clues . . . but the clues don't seem to flow from the s
O Fogo é a sequela de O Oito, uma sequela escrita cerca de 20 anos depois. Com tanto tempo para escrever o livro, as minhas expectativas encontravam-se um bocado elevadas.

Tendo adorado o enredo do anterior livro, esperava um enredo igualmente bom, com uma melhoria significativa no desenrolar da acção e definição das personagens, acima de tudo, na própria escrita "desorganizada" da autora, mas nada disto aconteceu. O enredo perdeu a originalidade, os dois momentos históricos estão pior definidos,
Очарована съм !
От умението на авторката да запленява неповторимо - с героите си, с изпипания си стил и исторически препратки, с историята, в която се потопих и не ми се искаше да излизам. След "Осем", която беше великолепна сама по себе си, е трудно да повярвам, че Катрин Невил е сътворила още един шедьовър, завършек и апотеоз на цялостната идея, която е само загатната в първата книга.

Магическа книга, която говори не само на четящия, но и чрез него - на света около нас. Стига само да имаме мъдро
Despite the promising concept of continuing the age-old story of the Montglane service with the next generation of players, this tale pales in comparison to the adventures of Catherine and Alexander in The Eight. Perhaps it is the mix of old and new characters that leaves the reader feeling disjointed and stuck in the past. The introduction of Basque mythology and the "Colliers" is fascinating, but only whets the imagination before sweeping on to new ideas and leaving a murk of confusion in its ...more
Filipe Miguel
Comparando-o com o "The Eight/O Oito", tem menos alquimia, menos xadrez e menos misticismo - à partida, elementos que me agradariam. Contudo apresenta também falta de profundidade, menos locais históricos visitados, menos personagens históricas e a viagem a 1800 é também bastante mais superficial.

Tem mais ritmo, mas menos sumo. Para dizer a verdade, parece-me que tinha muito para oferecer, mas ficou-se pela promessa.

Gostei, mas fiquei longe de ficar totalmente agradado; desapontou-me ainda mais
Lucas Rodriguez
Como secuela de la espectacular El Ocho, estaba segurísimo de que me iba a encantar este libro; El Ocho esta inteligentemente escrito, es desafiante, divertido, intrigante y profundo. Es una de esas novelas tan dependientes de uno que no se puede parar hasta terminarla. Uno queda tan impresionado con la manera de escribir de la autora que se asegura de conseguirse toda la literatura a mano de Neville para seguir amando su narrativa.

Lamentablemente, El Fuego es una pequeña decepción. El estilo es
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Katherine Neville is an American author. Her novels include The Eight, A Calculated Risk, and The Magic Circle. She was born in St. Louis, Missouri, and she previously worked as a photographer, a model, a consultant at the Department of Energy, and a vice president of the local Bank of America.

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