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A brilliant young scientist rises to power on Cyteen, haunted by the knowledge that her predecessor and genetic duplicate died at the hands of one of her trusted advisors. Murder, politics, and genetic manipulation provide the framework for the latest Union-Alliance novel by the author of Downbelow Station. Cherryh's talent for intense, literate storytelling maintains inte ...more
Paperback, 680 pages
Published September 1st 1995 by Aspect (first published 1988)
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Clouds

Christmas 2010: I realised that I had got stuck in a rut. I was re-reading old favourites again and again, waiting for a few trusted authors to release new works. Something had to be done.

On the spur of the moment I set myself a challenge, to read every book to have won the Locus Sci-Fi award. That’s 35 books, 6 of which I’d previously read, leaving 29 titles by 14 authors who were new to me.

While working through this reading list I got married, went on my honeymoon, switched career and became
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Stephen
5.5 stars. This is one of the most brilliantly written books I have ever read and I believe it is a work of special genius (no pun intended based on the subject matter of the book). This is not an EASY book to read and is not what I would describe as TONS of FUN. It is a complex, richly detailed, psychological science fiction mystery peopled by characters of vast intellect and extreme cunning. This makes the story one in which the reader must pay close attention. However, the pay off for such at ...more
Lisa Eskra
Cyteen by C.J. Cherryh. A 680-page paperback but don't be fooled. I'm pretty sure this novel chalks in at 300K+ words. It certainly weighs a few pounds.

A third of the way through, I'm calling it quits. I might pick it up again if there's nothing else in the house to read. But definitely some other time.

The writing itself is very good. Literally, that is the only thing that kept me going (and the hope things would suddenly get interesting). Cherryh's portrait of the universe has a lot of richness
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Norman Cook
Spoilers ahead!

I try to read every Hugo Award nominee. For a reason I don’t remember, I never read Cyteen by C.J. Cherryh when it was nominated in 1989. Maybe my library didn’t have a copy; maybe I was intimidated by the length of the book (680 densely packed pages) (or I didn’t have enough time to finish); or perhaps I had read stuff by Cherryh before and had been underwhelmed. Whatever the reason, I recently decided to give Cyteen a try after I read a blog post extolling its virtues. In fact,
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Sandra
OMG! What a book! Best Cherryh yet! Now I have to read Forty-thousand in Gehenna and Regenesis! I can see why it won the Hugo. It's non stop psychological thriller with so many plot twists and unexpected turns that one can hardly keep up. She makes me hate a character and then come to understand them if not like them in a most interesting way, uncovering layers and layers of meaning.

I could hardly put it down and am now sad that it's over and I'll have to get myself involved in another book to g
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Doc
I got through about 20% of this, and just couldn't read (listen) any more. Now I remember why I stopped reeding Cherryh a couple of decades back.

I like imagery and some action and some depth to the characters. This book is very cerebral - lots of dialog, thinking, and narrative, and very little actual action or imagery. I felt like I was in a black and white movie that I couldn't see very well. I could hear it just fine, but that left me wanting.

I tried listening to this while driving between Au
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C.S.
Every single thing that I dislike -- long infodump of a prologue, a whole herd of characters without any introductions, being dumped into a complex political situation without any explanations. So it's a classic. So it's supposed to be great. So I don't care.
Simon
I realised this was a long book when the hefty tome arrived in the post and I viewed the small font but I didn't think it would take me this long to finish.

I don't tend to like long books; I am instantly sceptical and always question whether they genuinely needs to be. I notice that this volume was once published in three parts (against the will of the author) and I have to agree that it doesn't really make sense to break up the story in that way. What it really needed was some good editing, som
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Andreas
Who killed Ari Emory?
You won't find the final answer to this central question in this huge tome. But other topics like genetics, sexual abuse, or psychology are discussed intensely from different viewpoints. Most central is the broad theme of cloning (or psychogenesis, which is the exact cloning of body and mind) which makes it very relevant for current discussions of that theme. Mix it with lots of political scheming, homeopathic dosis of action, and a very bad tension arc to get this mileston
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Karin
When Ariane Emory (the first), head of Reseune genetic facilities, is murdered by Jordon Warrick, the next generation at Reseune has their shackles weakened just enough that they might be able to make a difference. Ariane Emory (the second), a replicate of Ariane Emory (the first), grows up in a tightly controlled environment with the hope that she will be just like her predecessor, but things don't work exactly as they hoped, she's starting where Ariane 1 left off, with the skill, instincts, an ...more
Shaheen
Read the full review here.

The scope of this novel is huge: an in depth study of power, examination of the difference in the psychology of a ‘natural-born’ person and that of a manufactured mind, the story of a ruthless genius, her death and subsequent cloning, and the experiences of the clone herself, who is intended to replace the greatest mind in history and succeeds more completely than anticipated. The large scope makes the novel clunky in some places, but for the most part it is very engagi
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Anita
Some people have complained about Cyteen being too long. The reason is because Cyteen was originally written as a three book series. Most people would do better to get the original three paperbacks and read them instead but be warned: C.J. Cherryh is not a writer for people who like short books. She writes for people who want a long, in-depth read and who aren't afraid of being plunged into a world full of new and often confusing terms, ideas, and vocabulary.

Books such as this are usually writte
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Andrew McCrae
Outstanding. The precursor to Regenesis (one of the best books I've read), successor to Downbelow Station - which I am looking forward to (to tracing the development of this Union-Alliance series back to the origin).

It is the most intensely detailed sf I've read, and rivals Asimov's Foundation series and Herbert's Dune series for the verisimilitude of their sociological foundations that make all great science fiction books GREAT.

It is a psychological thriller and an sf political novel - very rar
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Sean
Jan 11, 2009 Sean rated it 3 of 5 stars
Shelves: sci-fi
For some reason this took me a very long time to read. I just kept losing focus, losing interest, losing the thread. I have been very stressed out lately, however, so I'm not sure it's the book's fault.

Cyteen is a semi-inhospitable world that has become the center of the Union, a far-future federation of human space colonists who have left Earth, the Alliance and the power-hungry Company behind. The main power on Cyteen is Reseune, a scientific facility that researches personality creation, meme
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Catherine Siemann
Jul 21, 2009 Catherine Siemann rated it 2 of 5 stars
Recommended to Catherine by: Heather & Beth
Shelves: book-group-books
What good science fiction excells at is the exploration of ideas and possbilities -- in the case of Cyteen (which is a dreadful title and fortunately has nothing to do with cybernetic teenagers), ideas about cloning, genetic manipulation, nature/nurture, identity and so forth. The novel handles these well, though in a world where they are so accepted that perhaps the larger questions don't get the exploration they might. But in 680 pages of political intrigue, scientific possibilities, and human ...more
Mark Galassi
This is a collection of the three original books.

I found the book to be "dated": a style of science fiction writing that does not stand well to the passage of time.

The verbosity was extreme and mostly pointless: the good ideas in the book could have been rendered in a couple of hundred pages.

Many interesting plot lines were developed and then dropped.

The purpose of the verbosity is sometimes to develop a feeling for the surroundings and the future universe, but the book did not describe the kind
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Dogg
This book was heavy. Both literally, being a trade size paperback, and figuratively. The theme was a downer. And I found Cherryh's writing style at times difficult to follow and found myself continuously reading passages. The ideas presented make can make for great discussion, but the path to get there was long.

I would have given this less than 3 stars, but who am I to give a Hugo Award winning novel less than 3 stars.
Scott Smithson
I swore that if I read another run on sentence, I would put the book down. The plot drew me beyond my oath, but I cannot abide the writing in this book. Some of the review say that this is 'good writing'. I'd be curious to see how many of them also list 'Time Traveller's Wife' as anything but bleed-from-the-eyes painful.

Sorry, Cyteen, I tried. I really did. I don't hate you, but your writing is awful.
Shara
I enjoyed this book very much. It fascinated me on a level that I find myself following in Cherryh's footsteps even though this is really the first of her major works (second overall) that I've ever read. That's cool, but scary, but not surprising, given that authors I do love and admire have found such a strong influence is Cherryh's work. I think, sometime when I really want to study the entanglement of science and plot and character, I may re-read this beast and really study it. Not for the w ...more
Neelakantan K.K.
Tightly plotted, elegantly structured and well-written, Cyteen plunges into intrigue and intricate political dealings from the very beginning. The novel rarely drags and there's always enough tension to make you uneasy. There's a sense of paranoia that comes through very clearly, reflecting the paranoia felt by many of the characters. The plot structure also enables the author to play with our notions about various characters, constantly making one change their opinions of whom to identify with ...more
Nicholas Whyte
http://nhw.livejournal.com/229202.html[return][return]Jeepers, it's incredible that this won the Hugo award in 1989. The competition was not so impressive, of course: Red Prophet, by Orson Scott Card, has its merits but isn't science fiction; Falling Free is not Lois McMaster Bujold's best (though oddly enough it did win the Nebula that year; I haven't read Islands in the Net by Bruce Sterling, and while I have read the other nominee, Mona Lisa Overdrive by William Gibson, I can't remember a sin ...more
Jen
Dec 10, 2007 Jen rated it 3 of 5 stars
Recommends it for: fans of C.J.Cherryh and SF ethical quandries.
Shelves: sci-fi
There's certainly a lot of hype around the Cyteen trilogy; much of it deserved. Overall I enjoyed the series, but to be honest, I've enjoyed many of her other SF books more.

It had the usual Cherryh SF touch, where what you would normally call unethical and terrifying suddenly becomes acceptable under certain circumstances, and you start questioning things you always thought would be rock solid. I loved and hated the azi system, where human beings are reset by "tape" from the moment they are born
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Jamie
This is only my second C.J. Cherryh novel, and I liked it very much. I found it to be a more intimate, character-driven story than Downbelow Station.

This takes place almost entirely at a research institute called Reseune which specializes in human cloning. They also produce special clones known as “Azi” who are subjected to intense conditioning from birth which gives them a different psychological makeup from regular humans. The Azi exist largely as an enslaved workforce.

I suppose enslaved is t
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Margaret
Cyteen is a gripping and intense science fiction novel, set on the planet Cyteen in Cherryh's Merchanter Universe about 300 years in our future, when human cloning has become a reality. Ariane Emory is a brilliant scientist, and when she dies under mysterious circumstances, her successors create a replicate of Emory and struggle to duplicate her childhood environment as well, so that the replicate will grow up under the same conditions and become the same person; Cyteen is the story of the secon ...more
Sue
Well that's two months of my life I'll never get back. It rarely takes me this long to read a book, and if I don't like it I usually give up on it. I didn't hate it, but it was tedious. I got tired of the Justin/Grant constant paranoia, even if, in the end, it seemed as if it were justified. I got tired of the details of Ari2's childhood. I got very tired of the psychobabble: "flux state", "take tape", "Working him". The book finally got interesting in the final pages, but then ended with just a ...more
Betsey
I can see why this book won a Nebula. It's quite good! It's not the usual kind of ethical questioning about cloning, but it's still interesting. I'm not sure how realistic any of it is, but that's ok. If I slept more (i haz baby), I'd be tempted to think deeply about what this book is really writing about. It has a lot of academia shades in it, and I do wonder if that's really what she's talking about. But I digress. From Downbelow Station, I wasn't sure what to expect on Cyteen and in Union Spa ...more
Soren
If you have the slightest interest in the inner lives of smart children, the origins of personality, fictional politics, or human cloning, you should read this book.

If the central question of Stand On Zanzibar was "what does it mean to be human if we can't save ourselves?", the central question of Cyteen is "What does humanity mean when human minds can be made to order?"

That said, how much you enjoy it will depend on how attached you get to the characters and how well you can follow the often ob
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Ephi
I finally have this book in e-book form since it's kinda hard to order it and have it arrive in an hour. :))

I read Rebirth when I was in high school and love it and couldn't wait to get my hands on the other two novels. Unfortunately it was not very easy, unlike Narnia novels which were available at the library I work for.

Anyway, I just couldn't help it, I read it in jumping sequence. Sometimes to the middle, to the front, and then to the back. My favorite character would be Florian and Justin.
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Yune
Re-read in preparation for the sequel.

Complex, unrelenting, expansive, focused, and the ending still drops an anvil on my head. I first read this when I was too young to understand a lot of it, and to this day I feel as though each turn through it just gives it shading (definitely darker). I find some characters despicable, others compelling, and one in particular I can't make up my mind about. They are, I think, convincingly brilliant far beyond the reader, yet engaged in problems I can (with s
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Currently resident in Spokane, Washington, C.J. Cherryh has won four Hugos and is one of the best-selling and most critically acclaimed authors in the science fiction and fantasy field. She is the author of more than forty novels. Her hobbies include travel, photography, reef culture, Mariners baseball, and, a late passion, figure skating: she intends to compete in the adult USFSA track. She began ...more
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“He said sometimes when you're young you have to think about things, because you're forming your value-sets and you keep coming up with Data Insufficient and finding holes in your programs. So you keep trying to do a fix on your sets. And the more powerful your mind is and the more intense your concentration is, the worse damage you can do to yourself, which is why, Justin says, Alphas always have trouble and some of them go way off and out-there, and why almost all Alphas are eccentric. But he says the best thing you can do if you're too bright for your own good is what the Testers do, be aware where you got which idea, keep a tab on everything, know how your ideas link up with each other and with your deep-sets and value-sets, so when you're forty or fifty or a hundred forty and you find something that doesn't work, you can still find all the threads and pull them.

But that's not real easy unless you know what your value-sets are, and most CITs don't. CITs have a trouble with not wanting to know that kind of thing. Because some of them are real eetee once you get to thinking about how they link. Especially about sex and ego-nets.

Justin says inflexibility is a trap and most Alpha types are inward-turned because they process so fast they're gone and thinking before a Gamma gets a sentence out. Then they get in the habit of thinking they thought of everything, but they don't remember everything stems from input. You may have a new idea, but it stems from input somebody gave you, and that could be wrong or your senses could have been lying to you. He says it can be an equipment-quality problem or a program-quality problem, but once an Alpha takes a falsehood for true, it's a personal problem.”
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