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Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist
by
Dan Barker
Tells Dan Barker's dramatic story of conversion from fundamentalist minister to atheist, after 19 years of preaching the Gospel. Presents arguments for atheism and godless morality.
Hardcover, 392 pages
Published
May 1st 2006
by Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc.
(first published 1992)
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LOL. Get real. This book gets no stars.
I debated Barker on the Infidel Guy radio show in the summer of '06. I went through this book with a fine-toothed comb. I can't even get started on a review. You can purchase that debate here for 98 cents. (That site isn't my own, and I make no money from it. That's just the only place where I know that the link is available.)
I debated Barker on the Infidel Guy radio show in the summer of '06. I went through this book with a fine-toothed comb. I can't even get started on a review. You can purchase that debate here for 98 cents. (That site isn't my own, and I make no money from it. That's just the only place where I know that the link is available.)
Baker's position seems to be that the Bible is so a-historical, so out of line with reality, that he can hardly believe he ever believed in it. Where there certainly is a point where believing that what the Bible says is true requires faith, Barker doesn't get within eight miles of it. He argues that Jesus never existed, and that crucifixion didn't exist at the time Jesus was supposedly around, either, which latter puts him way outside of generally accepted history, whether secular, Jewish, or C...more
Barker adds an interesting perspective (that of a former Evangelical minister) to the mix, but not a whole lot else. Most of the logical and empirical arguments have been presented more forcefully and clearly by Russel, Dawkins, Harris, and Hitchens, although Barker does present some interesting internal biblical contradictions to share with your believer friends. My major problem, though, was the lazy editing: the book in mainly a collection of Barker's essays from Freethought Today over a numb...more
I was really interested in reading this book and a bit disappointed when I did. I was expecting an autobiography, and I did get that for the first quarter of the book. Most of it is a series of essays that have been republished that explain his thoughts on rejecting Christianity. And they're categorized by subject.
I thought it would have been more interesting to see a detailed progression of how one "loses faith in faith" but did not come away with that.
I also wish he would have focused more on...more
I thought it would have been more interesting to see a detailed progression of how one "loses faith in faith" but did not come away with that.
I also wish he would have focused more on...more
This book would have been good if it was a coherently organized testimony of one religious man's gradual deconversion, but it is a repetitive collage of previously published nontracts and articles with a little bit of original material mixed in. The book should have been half as long. I did like, however, the perspective of someone who had previously been a Christian and then gradually had a realization that it was all myth, fantasy, and the emotion a psychological phenomenon.
Dan Barker is co-founder of the Freedom From Religion Foundation and former evangelical preacher. Like John Loftus, his arguements gain a bit of power as they come from the 'inside-out.' Barker introduces himself on the FFRF podcastr as "your friendly neighborhood atheist" and he is a calm voice for the side of rationalism.
Despite the somewhat cheesy title and cover, I found this to be a very moving and thoughtful book. One of my favorite chapters is available online: Dear Theologian -- a letter from God inquiring as to his own nature.
Dec 06, 2010
David Melbie
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Christians & Atheists
Recommended to David by:
Richard Dawkins
The first one that went into my "Atheist Tool Belt." I refer to it often! One of my first perks of membership in Freedom From Religion Foundation http://ffrf.org
This book is a bit disjointed being a series of articles for Freethought Today along with some added chapters although it contains some really good material. Some themes are lightly covered but nevertheless there is plenty of material here for those who are involved in debating this subject. The recollected conversations, poems and songs are most entertaining. Dan has managed to present his life journey, thoughts and ideas in a fun, thought provoking and easily readable way. Recommended
I borrowed this from the library but I think I am going to invest in a copy of my own as this is eminently highlightable.
While there were some things even as a hardcore atheist I found myself disagreeing with for the most part I found excellent information that further solidified my atheism. It was also nice to read about someone who lost their faith and the crisis of conscience they went through, the backlash from christian friends. I related to alot of the things he said.
While there were some things even as a hardcore atheist I found myself disagreeing with for the most part I found excellent information that further solidified my atheism. It was also nice to read about someone who lost their faith and the crisis of conscience they went through, the backlash from christian friends. I related to alot of the things he said.
Oct 29, 2008
Charlie George
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Agnostics, rationalists, and truth-seekers
Shelves:
religion
Very solid, accessible, engaging, personable book. It is rare to find all these qualities in a treatise on atheism, so I recommend it with high marks.
Mr. Barker is to me a luminary of rationalism, and therefore a valiant champion of a brighter future in which we, as a species, take responsibility for our own actions, misdeeds, and limitless potential.
Mr. Barker is to me a luminary of rationalism, and therefore a valiant champion of a brighter future in which we, as a species, take responsibility for our own actions, misdeeds, and limitless potential.
Thought I'd read a book from the other side. It was interesting, I always like to try to understand people who think differently from me. Many of his arguments seem emotional and from someone who didn't pay attention in Sunday School. I understand he has improved his skills since writing the book, but this is basically the work of a bitter man.
More personable than Hitchens but less entertaining than Dawkins, Barker nevertheless preaches to the choir: as Jonathan Swift famously said, "You cannot reason a man out of a position that he did not reason himself into in the first place." Moderately interesting, but not nearly as convincing as he thinks.
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“Faith is a cop-out. If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits. It is intellectual bankruptcy.”
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