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Everything and More: A Compact History of Infinity
One of the outstanding voices of his generation, David Foster Wallace has won a large and devoted following for the intellectual ambition and bravura style of his fiction and essays. Now he brings his considerable talents to the history of one of math's most enduring puzzles: the seemingly paradoxical nature of infinity.
Is infinity a valid mathematical property or a meanin...more
Is infinity a valid mathematical property or a meanin...more
Hardcover, 336 pages
Published
October 17th 2003
by W. W. Norton & Company
(first published 2003)
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Love him or hate him, DFW is a prodigious talent. Except for the disturbing "Conversations with Hideous Men" I have found his previous material to be so hilariously, intelligently, on-target that I was willing to overlook a multitude of stylistic transgressions (chiefly, the overly cutesy tone, gratuitous flaunting of the author's erudition, the footnote fetish).
So I was reasonably disposed to like this book and was looking forward to reading it. Sadly, it turns out that this was a case where D...more
So I was reasonably disposed to like this book and was looking forward to reading it. Sadly, it turns out that this was a case where D...more
I don't know how I feel about this book. It was a math-related book, which is good (Math! Yay! Fun!), but... I just ... It wasn't as good as other math books I've read. I found myself skimming parts, and my brain glazing over at other parts.
This is the first DFW book I've ever read, which may have some impact on my reception of it (Although, come to think of it, there is a DFW article in The New Kings of Nonfiction, which I didn't really have problems with.). I had a friend once, however, (actua...more
This is the first DFW book I've ever read, which may have some impact on my reception of it (Although, come to think of it, there is a DFW article in The New Kings of Nonfiction, which I didn't really have problems with.). I had a friend once, however, (actua...more
I'm on page 109, and I think that's where I'll stop. It's not that I haven't enjoyed it, I have. In fact it's quite soothing to try to see how many layers of abstraction you can hold in your mind at once. However, I only seem to be able to read 2-5 pages at a time before the soothingness of it puts me to sleep, and my mind really is somewhat math resistant. I've gotten to a point in the book where the equations are just meaningless to me. One of my best friends loved this book intensely, and act...more
I've now read everything that David Foster Wallace published in book form, which became a goal of mine back on 09/15/08 when I heard that he'd hanged himself on 09/12/08. At that time, this book and "Signifying Rappers" were the only two I hadn't yet read. I wouldn't otherwise have read "Everything and More," given that I'm not all that strong a math student.
With that happy preface, let me tell you that "Everything and More: A Compact History of [insert here a lemniscate, the graphic symbol of i...more
With that happy preface, let me tell you that "Everything and More: A Compact History of [insert here a lemniscate, the graphic symbol of i...more
Despite Herculean efforts on Wallace's part, to get the most out of this book you really need more math (and more recently) than what I've taken. At least some calculus, probably.
Ostensibly the book's about the history of infinity, which sounds pretty interesting, but what it's really about the history of how infinity as a concept has been treated in mathematics — which is still a fairly interesting-sounding topic, except it turns out that for it to make sense you have to understand a lot of pr...more
Ostensibly the book's about the history of infinity, which sounds pretty interesting, but what it's really about the history of how infinity as a concept has been treated in mathematics — which is still a fairly interesting-sounding topic, except it turns out that for it to make sense you have to understand a lot of pr...more
DFW's math always seemed rather suspect, and he fucked up a thing or two quite badly in Infinite Jest, but Mykle's adulatory review -- plus sitting out thus far on The Pale King (which is it just me, or is that awfully close to A Pale Fire?), and DFW's surprisingly pedestrian short story from a New Yorker last month, has me craving Wallace. ordered! somewhat distressing that the interminable bore Neal Stephenson did the introduction, but he occasionally manages to crap out something better than...more
I bought this book despite the strong criticism it got from mathematicians who found pretty egregious mistakes in some of the math. But I'd never read David Foster Wallace before (aside from some of his journalism) and I wanted to try him out.
I suspect the criticism is largely unwarranted - DFW provides enough forewarning that he has "dumbed down" much of the math in order to bridge the gap to the difficult and abstract math he is describing. Doing so comes with the sacrifice of some accuracy....more
I suspect the criticism is largely unwarranted - DFW provides enough forewarning that he has "dumbed down" much of the math in order to bridge the gap to the difficult and abstract math he is describing. Doing so comes with the sacrifice of some accuracy....more
This book has a serious Law of the Excluded Middle problem. Not just technically - he cites LEM (these things always end up abbreviated in typical DFW style) in totally unnecessary cases - but in that the book is neither A nor not A. David Foster Wallace thinks that the development of the mathematical understanding of infinity is deeply interesting and this book is him telling you about it. He's right. It is deeply interesting. The problem is how he decides to tell you about it. And in some ways...more
I’m going to describe the one person I can possibly imagine whom I would recommend this book to. His name is Andy; he was a contemporary of mine during my undergraduate days. Andy was a math major who at one point scheduled (or maybe just invited a bunch of people to?) a talk in a library conference room about how he found math to be beautiful, and in fact in some way divine.
Andy left the study of mathematics after several months teaching remedial algebra in a public school on Chicago’s South...more
Andy left the study of mathematics after several months teaching remedial algebra in a public school on Chicago’s South...more
I never thought I would find myself engrossed in a book about math, but David Foster Wallace actually makes this history of the philosophy and mechanics of math accessible - and I surround that word with heavy quotation marks - to anyone who can at least engage in, and enjoy, intellectual pretzel twisting. While I glazed over at the parts where equations came into play, there really was enough that didn't depend on them - enough of a tether to history or something I could actually understand - t...more
May 21, 2010
Jon Stout
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4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
technocrats and literary critics
Shelves:
philosophy
David Foster Wallace fascinates me as someone who had a philosophical and mathematical education and who in his spare time developed a reputation as a radically innovative fiction writer. That he committed suicide is unbelievably tragic, considering the philosophical and literary insight of which he was capable. In Everything and More, a kind of popular science version of mathematical history, he comes across as a kind of brash, friendly, wise-acreish grad student, with a whiplike genius mind, w...more
I am daunted by this book.
First of all, the beautiful beautiful words! I have just finished something (else: Chomsky) where I crossed out acres of text to chop it down to syntactic ligaments, only. You can't do that with THIS book! Every Word Matters; it is a thing of beauty.
However, now half way through the book, I am unable to appreciate a big part of the thesis, which has to do with the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus which takes an integral by limiting a little slice of incremental area do...more
First of all, the beautiful beautiful words! I have just finished something (else: Chomsky) where I crossed out acres of text to chop it down to syntactic ligaments, only. You can't do that with THIS book! Every Word Matters; it is a thing of beauty.
However, now half way through the book, I am unable to appreciate a big part of the thesis, which has to do with the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus which takes an integral by limiting a little slice of incremental area do...more
'Poets do not go mad; but chess players do. Mathematicians go mad, and cashiers; but creative artists very seldom. I am not attacking logic: I only sy that this danger does lie in logic, not in imagination.' - G.K. Chesterton, 6
The Mentally Ill Mathematician seems now in some ways to be what the Knight Errant, Mortified Saint, Tortured Artist, and Mad Scientist have been for other eras: sort of our Prometheus, the one who goes to forbidden places and returns with gifts we all can use but he alon...more
I think I'm going to have to return this to the library and try to read it at another time. I can't read any of Wallace's work right now, it makes me really sad. Because when I've read it in the past I've always been like: THIS IS SO BRILLIANT and I think of how amazing it is that someone so genius is alive. But.. he's not. Anymore. I realize whining about his death is not a review. This is a review placeholder.
I really wanted to like this, since I like the idea of it so much: a preternaturally fearless and curious outsider explaining the world of mathematics and mathematical philosophy to other outsiders.
DFW's at his best when he's talking about the philosophy (or is it that I'm out of my depth there...), but his mathematics is in places disconcertingly shaky, and he seems too ready to abandon mathematical carefulness for the sake of literary fireworks. And yes, I find his so-called "conversational"...more
DFW's at his best when he's talking about the philosophy (or is it that I'm out of my depth there...), but his mathematics is in places disconcertingly shaky, and he seems too ready to abandon mathematical carefulness for the sake of literary fireworks. And yes, I find his so-called "conversational"...more
First, a warning: For the love of god, if your interest in Everything and More is primarily as a fan of the writing of David Foster Wallace then you should NOT read this book. If you are, like I was, a fan of the writing of David Foster Wallace with a quite strong interest in things like science, physics, mathematics, and the history of ideas, even you should really think hard about your grounding in mathematics before reading this book.
Did I learn stuff? Yes. Did I understand everything I read...more
Did I learn stuff? Yes. Did I understand everything I read...more
Everything and More was a strange book. Strange in its ambitions (to provide a brief history of infinity up to and including Georg Cantor), strange in its writing style (David Foster Wallace isn't exactly the Hemingway of the 21st century), strange in its prerequisites (i.e., the book seems to be designed for people who already know the math he explains).
I didn't enjoy Everything and More. Sure, it was an ambitious project, but I really didn't see the point. The book can't make up its mind: is i...more
I didn't enjoy Everything and More. Sure, it was an ambitious project, but I really didn't see the point. The book can't make up its mind: is i...more
This is a book that couldn't decide who its audience was. The explanations are too detailed for the pop-math crowd, but too lacking in rigor for hardcore math folks. I'm somewhere in the middle; I have a pretty strong math background (lots of calculus, number theory, abstract algebra, set theory, etc. in college), but I'm also willing to let things go for a better narrative. This book's narrative is pretty weak. DFW's stylistic idiosyncrasies—copious footnotes and non-standard abbreviations, ult...more
I read a german translation which is marketed as a a biography of Cantor, and that really does not do justice to the book -it really is more of a biography of the modern idea of the mathematical infinite, with a good deal of tangential mathematical history thrown into the package. If you actually are a mathematician and have not heard much math history definitely a recommended read, as it gives some insight into how the notions we learned to take for granted actually could have developped in oth...more
A fun experiment. The noted author DFW attempted to write a treatise on a highly technical subject (the development of Cantor's mathematics of transfinite numbers and abstract set theory) and popularize it. While initially propelled along with DFW's arsenal of post-modern tools and tricks, it seemed to lose some of this steam, and in fact become somewhat rushed toward the end in a case of what seemed (and in fact was confirmed in a footnoted aside to the reader) that DFW had let the pacing of th...more
HERE IS WHY THIS BOOK IS AWESOME:
This book addresses three related enthusiasms: for mathematics itself, for math history (the lives of the mathematicians & the historical chain of deduction that gave us the math of today) and for DFW's high school math teacher (who sounds totally amazing). A book about any one of these might be more straightforward but DFW conflates the three in a breezy, entertaining mess. The operating concept is the history of infinity as a topic that has driven mathemati...more
This book addresses three related enthusiasms: for mathematics itself, for math history (the lives of the mathematicians & the historical chain of deduction that gave us the math of today) and for DFW's high school math teacher (who sounds totally amazing). A book about any one of these might be more straightforward but DFW conflates the three in a breezy, entertaining mess. The operating concept is the history of infinity as a topic that has driven mathemati...more
Quick summary: Navigating Wallace's tortuous prose is like eating a glass jawbreaker with a wisdom center: if you can tough it out through the pain, not to mention considerable loss of blood, you will discover something beautiful and profound. If you enjoy beauty and profundity in mathematics, at least. If you aren’t, but are still curious about Georg Cantor’s work showing that not all infinities are created equal, the essentials of Everything and More are summarized far more succinctly and acce...more
Frankly, I'm surprised I finished this book. I sort of saw it as part of my current project to work my way up to reading
Infinite Jest
. (Which is currently sitting on my dining room table. I'm afraid to shelve it lest the lack of a visual reminder will make me forget that I have it. It is also my hope that visitors will be impressed by the sight of the thing.)
Anyway, I figured I would read a bit of Everything and More, see what it's like, and skim through the rest when the math got too hairy....more
Anyway, I figured I would read a bit of Everything and More, see what it's like, and skim through the rest when the math got too hairy....more
Well, as you might expect, this is great writing, at least the parts of it that are plain english. I hesitated to read it because it was, well, a math book, and the 7 semesters of college math i had to take was enough to last me a lifetime. Although I must say that if I had math teachers like David Foster Wallace, I probably would have liked it more. So anyway the book was a gift but sat on my shelf for a few months but I eventually sat down and read it. It was worth reading, but... I doubt it w...more
So I definitely learned a whole bunch that I'm still trying to absorb but its like 2am as I'm writing this so you'll have to forgive me. Very idiomatic at some points and honestly it felt very disordered. More or less it goes chronologically but even Wallace himself goes to pains to discuss how fractured and disordered the whole text tends to get. A lot of times there's a whole bunch "we're just going to skip..." kind of talk which just gives me a sense of unease even though I know my overly lit...more
This book relates, or attempts to relate, how the topic of infinity was treated in different eras. These eras include ancient Greece (e.g., Zeno's paradoxes); the 17th century, when Newton and Leibniz developed calculus; and the period from the mid-19th to the early 20th century, when Georg Cantor and others developed new foundations for the concept of infinity (as well as for set theory and indeed for all of modern mathematics).
The book tries to present its complex subject matter in a conversat...more
The book tries to present its complex subject matter in a conversat...more
Jan 23, 2011
Bill
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I hadn't heard of this book until my good friend Dave (the math man) recommended it to me.
I would love to recommend this book to more people, because it's got that characteristic DFW apprehension of complexity and truth to it, plus the wide ranging references to everything. However, I knew the reals vs. the integers vs. a hole in the ground going in, and I still don't understand his description of Cantor's proof of the existence of transfinite numbers.
Anyway, I ate this book up, whereas I still...more
I would love to recommend this book to more people, because it's got that characteristic DFW apprehension of complexity and truth to it, plus the wide ranging references to everything. However, I knew the reals vs. the integers vs. a hole in the ground going in, and I still don't understand his description of Cantor's proof of the existence of transfinite numbers.
Anyway, I ate this book up, whereas I still...more
All infinities are equal, but some infinities are more equal than others.
This "booklet" as DFW has so termed it (I suppose only he could consider a 300+ page book worthy of such a diminutive suffix) is so full of math jargon and ideas, that I did have a hard time navigating it (although I was forewarned in advance, so I have no right to complain about it). The parts of it that were most interesting to me (the non-math, historical parts) were the parts that DFW was consciously avoiding delving in...more
This "booklet" as DFW has so termed it (I suppose only he could consider a 300+ page book worthy of such a diminutive suffix) is so full of math jargon and ideas, that I did have a hard time navigating it (although I was forewarned in advance, so I have no right to complain about it). The parts of it that were most interesting to me (the non-math, historical parts) were the parts that DFW was consciously avoiding delving in...more
I don't know why, maybe it's his three word name and the fact everyone seemed broken up when he died, but I figured he was some eminent figure of literature. I didn't realize he was some snarky NPR dick in the McSweeny's mold. This guy is WAY out of his league in writing a book on high level math, and from the ugly mess of footnotes, cutesy abbreviations that waste more time in the looking up than they save in the reading the non sequitur jokey jokes about people's names and how hard math is, an...more
If one approaches this expecting a primer on Cantor's work with cardinals and ordinals, naive set theory or the CH will surely be disappointed. Those approaching this book that way should feel slightly silly -though Wallace does have a history in propositional calculus (cf. Fate Time and Language: An Essay on Free Will)- the proposed depth of subject matter does not lend itself to elucidation by a fiction writer who self confesses his own failures in most formal mathematics courses. If instead t...more
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David Foster Wallace worked surprising turns on nearly everything: novels, journalism, vacation. His life was an information hunt, collecting hows and whys. "I received 500,000 discrete bits of information today," he once said, "of which maybe 25 are important. My job is to make some sense of it." He wanted to write "stuff about what it feels like to live. Instead of being a relief from what it fe...more
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“Maybe even more important than the D.B.P. [Divine Brotherhood of Pythagoras], ∞-wise is the protomystic Parmenides of Elea (c.515-? BCE), not only because of his distinction between the 'Way of Truth' and 'Way of Seeing' framed the terms of Greek metaphysics and (again) influenced Plato, but because Parmenides' #1 student and defender was the aforementioned Zeno, the most fiendishly clever and upsetting philosopher ever (who can be seen actually kicking Socrates' ass, argumentatively speaking, in Plato's Parmenides).”
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