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A Betrayal in Winter (Long Price Quartet #2)
Daniel Abraham delighted fantasy readers with his brilliant, original, and engaging first novel, A Shadow in Summer. Now he has produced an even more powerful sequel, a tragedy as darkly personal and violent as Shakespeare's Macbeth.
As a boy, Otah Machi was exiled from his family, Machi's ruling house. Decades later, he has witnessed and been part of world-changing events....more
As a boy, Otah Machi was exiled from his family, Machi's ruling house. Decades later, he has witnessed and been part of world-changing events....more
Hardcover, 320 pages
Published
August 21st 2007
by Tor Books
(first published August 2007)
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It pisses me off how good a writer Daniel Abraham is. It pisses me off more that you lot don't seem to be reading him at all. I'm going to start buying his books and mailing them to you for your birthday, L. Ron Hubbard style. This is not an idle threat.
A Betrayal in Winter is the second in the Long Price Quartet. I always feel a little weird writing reviews for later books in series, because I'm going inevitably to drop spoilers from the first book. With that in mind,...more
It pisses me off how good a writer Daniel Abraham is. It pisses me off more that you lot don't seem to be reading him at all. I'm going to start buying his books and mailing them to you for your birthday, L. Ron Hubbard style. This is not an idle threat.
A Betrayal in Winter is the second in the Long Price Quartet. I always feel a little weird writing reviews for later books in series, because I'm going inevitably to drop spoilers from the first book. With that in mind,...more
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The first of this series showcased how Abraham was quite a unique talent. New, with a thought about magic and fantasy that we had never seen before.
That is all to the good. And here, as the world and story develop, we see even more that we had only hints of before. But, this is just not a fantasy, but a political work as well as a murder mystery.
As such we need to know a few things, and we need our heroes and heroines to not know a few things as well. We want to catch the killers of course. Yet...more
That is all to the good. And here, as the world and story develop, we see even more that we had only hints of before. But, this is just not a fantasy, but a political work as well as a murder mystery.
As such we need to know a few things, and we need our heroes and heroines to not know a few things as well. We want to catch the killers of course. Yet...more
(First read:)
Sequel to fantasy epic about civilization based on, and undermined by, extraordinarily untrustworthy demons. I loved the first book but found this one merely acceptable. Not sure why. Two more are coming, and I guess I'll read them.
(On re-reading:)
Works much better when re-read immediately following the first book. I upgrade my mark.
Thematics: the first book gave us the (long) price of slavery -- from several angles, each rendered as an abusive relationship. (Cruelty; internalized s...more
Sequel to fantasy epic about civilization based on, and undermined by, extraordinarily untrustworthy demons. I loved the first book but found this one merely acceptable. Not sure why. Two more are coming, and I guess I'll read them.
(On re-reading:)
Works much better when re-read immediately following the first book. I upgrade my mark.
Thematics: the first book gave us the (long) price of slavery -- from several angles, each rendered as an abusive relationship. (Cruelty; internalized s...more
Pros: complex characters, world-building with depth, intrigue
Cons: some of the antagonist's plots worked out surprisingly well
The eldest son of the dying Khai Machi is poisoned and all eyes turn to the succession about to take place in Machi. When Otah Machi, the Khai's sixth son, hiding under the false name Itani Noygu, is told by his courier overseer to gather information there he knows returning to the city of his birth is potentially suicidal. He expects his low status and new identity will...more
Cons: some of the antagonist's plots worked out surprisingly well
The eldest son of the dying Khai Machi is poisoned and all eyes turn to the succession about to take place in Machi. When Otah Machi, the Khai's sixth son, hiding under the false name Itani Noygu, is told by his courier overseer to gather information there he knows returning to the city of his birth is potentially suicidal. He expects his low status and new identity will...more
A Betrayal in Winter continues the strengths and weaknesses of A Shadow in Summer. I'm going to get very spoilery in the third paragraph, so let's get out of the way everything you might need to know about this book: It continues the story of the rogue Otah Machi, descendant of the ruling house of the city of Machi who has refused to become a poet (one of the magicians who controls the concepts-made-sentient called "andat") and so threatens the city's stability. See, in this fantasy land of city...more
...and the real show begins.
This book starts about 10 years later. The character who turned out to be the main guy in the first book is now a courier, wavering towards leaving his trade. For a woman, of course. But his past ruins that plan and he ends up having to return to his first home that he hadn't seen since he was a child.
Each of the Summer Cities has a ruler who holds the throne on the blood of his brothers. Each ruler is expected to take many wives and have many babies. The females beco...more
This book starts about 10 years later. The character who turned out to be the main guy in the first book is now a courier, wavering towards leaving his trade. For a woman, of course. But his past ruins that plan and he ends up having to return to his first home that he hadn't seen since he was a child.
Each of the Summer Cities has a ruler who holds the throne on the blood of his brothers. Each ruler is expected to take many wives and have many babies. The females beco...more
The second book of the series, 'The Betrayal of Winter', is a much more racy read than the first, moving along at a cracking pace. It focuses on the means of inheritance of the Khaiem (the three eldest sons compete for the right to inherit by killing their rivals, and all other sons are sent away to attempt to become poets, or be branded and live normal lives), and the action takes place in the northern city of Machi.
The central conspiracy which drives the plot is just as hare-brained as the one...more
The central conspiracy which drives the plot is just as hare-brained as the one...more
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A few years ago, a friend of a friend--who happens herself to be a friend of Abraham's--sent me a copy of his short story "Flat Diane." Then last year another friend lent me a copy of the first novel in the Long Price Quartet, A Shadow In Summer. It's good to have friends--I don't know that I would have discovered this work without help.
Abraham is a local and a collaborator with one of New Mexico's other outstanding fantasy writers, George R.R. Martin, whose rich, ruthless, and beautiful A Song...more
Abraham is a local and a collaborator with one of New Mexico's other outstanding fantasy writers, George R.R. Martin, whose rich, ruthless, and beautiful A Song...more
Da: http://www.webalice.it/michele.castel... Prosegue con questo secondo episodio la saga fantasy The Long Prize Quartet, di cui si incomincia a capire la ragione del titolo. Il prezzo alto sembra essere quello che i quattro protagonisti principali, perch� la narrazione � ricca di figure per cos� dire secondarie ma estremamente ben caratterizzate, sono costretti a pagare per ogni scelta di vita fatta. Non so se questa � l'interpretazione corretta, ma al momento mi sembra quella pi� probabile. Ho...more
C'mon, this book is a total rip-off of George RR Martin's Game of Thrones books! Unfortunately, it's a boring, drab and generally uncompelling rip-off.
If you don't see the similarities, allow me to point them out (those I can recall, that is, as I really don't remember much, though I read it last month):
Let's see- angry princess daughter resentful for not being born a man and plotting her own family's demise? Cersei Lannister, anyone?
Co-conspirator of angry princess daughter seeking to become a...more
If you don't see the similarities, allow me to point them out (those I can recall, that is, as I really don't remember much, though I read it last month):
Let's see- angry princess daughter resentful for not being born a man and plotting her own family's demise? Cersei Lannister, anyone?
Co-conspirator of angry princess daughter seeking to become a...more
I waited a long time to read this after finishing the first Long Price book (a month is a long time in my world, ok?).
Usually when I finish the first book in a series I either 1) dive right into the next book, 2) loathe it and never finish the series, or 3) whine because the next book hasn't been written yet.
But after my disappointment with the second and third books in C.S. Friedman's Coldfire Trilogy, which I read just prior to A Shadow in Summer, I was a little nervous about getting into anot...more
Usually when I finish the first book in a series I either 1) dive right into the next book, 2) loathe it and never finish the series, or 3) whine because the next book hasn't been written yet.
But after my disappointment with the second and third books in C.S. Friedman's Coldfire Trilogy, which I read just prior to A Shadow in Summer, I was a little nervous about getting into anot...more
Opening fifteen years after the events of "A Shadow in Summer," the second installment in the Long Price Quartet opens with the death of one of the Khai's sons, a signal that the battle for succession among his sons has begun. In Daniel Abraham's political system, the Khai's sons all fight and kill each other for the right to take over the throne when their father dies (similar to rising in rank in the classic "Star Trek" episode, 'Mirror, Mirror') while the women are either dismissed back to th...more
When i read my previous review of A Shadow in summer, i said that it was a fair enough book. That it wasn't really lacking something, but it was a small part of what could come up next. And now i reassure that opinion.
From the start it totally caught me off guard by seeing again Maati and Otah. I don't know why, but because of the first book i expected a semi-long, boring introduction to new characters and a whole new story.
So back on topic, A Betrayal in Winter confirms my impression on this sa...more
From the start it totally caught me off guard by seeing again Maati and Otah. I don't know why, but because of the first book i expected a semi-long, boring introduction to new characters and a whole new story.
So back on topic, A Betrayal in Winter confirms my impression on this sa...more
Otah is dragged willy nilly into a round of family violence as his home city slides toward a violent succession crisis. Volume two is as good or better than volume one, with an unusually well realized setting and a set of nonsimple characters with, often, mixed motives. I was a little disappointed that Otah's sister Idaan turned out to be all adolescent rage and wasn't more clever or intelligent--but if Abraham hasn't yet come up with a female character to equal his central male ones, that's nei...more
I’ve mentioned before my frustration with most mystery novels. The authors seem to think that withholding information from the reader, even when the point-of-view character knows that information will make things more tense. It just makes me bored, or frustrated. Hiding information is immensely difficult to pull off and almost always fails. I can only think of one example that works (Ocean’s Eleven) and I think that only does because it’s the point of the story that nothing is fully explained un...more
I almost didn't read this because I didn't particularly like the first book in the series but this one is so much better! I just didn't get into the first book as it seemed that no one but the main protagonist, Otah, had any redeemable qualities. That being said this book did catch my interest and held it firmly in place.
I don't know if the writing is better or if it's just because I spent more time with Otah and Maati so that I became invested in what happened to them. The book starts off with...more
I don't know if the writing is better or if it's just because I spent more time with Otah and Maati so that I became invested in what happened to them. The book starts off with...more
I felt the story was slow and not a lot of substance to it (doesn't feel like a lot happens until the very end at least). For the first third of the book it felt like it was similar characters to the first book, but with different names and in different places. After a while the characterization differences did sink in. I thought Idaan was well done. The ending was a little surprising and I think will lend itself well to the next book. I find while having read the first 2 books now in the 4 book...more
A Betrayal In Winter is the second book in Daniel Abraham’s Long Price Quartet and is set fifteen years after the events of A Shadow In Summer. A Betrayal In Winter is, if anything, a text book example of how to write a politic heavy novel in a fantasy culture. While A Betrayal In Winter doesn’t chance the “slow burn” pacing Abraham employed in A Shadow In Summer the familiar characters made it much easier for me to settle into the book and the new characters were complex, brilliantly drawn, and...more
This is the second volume in the Long Price Quartet. While I still lacked a connection to the characters, the plot was perhaps more intricate and enthralling than the first book. This is set fifteen years after the conclusion of A Shadow in Summer, and the carryover characters from that novel have changed. Time has been good to some and hurtful to others. Abraham does a great job of showing the long term consequences of the choices made by those characters in this second snapshot of their lives....more
I have mixed feelings on this one. The first 1/2 was amazing and better than the first...then it sort of just seemed to drag on. I feel that Abraham is still working out the pacing in his books, the first part I feel would have benefited from being drawn out and the second part could have shrunk. Luckily the last quarter picks back up again and it ends on a very strong note.
Besides pacing the novel is very strong. Abraham's writing is very strong and reminds me of Guy Gavriel Kay which if you've...more
Besides pacing the novel is very strong. Abraham's writing is very strong and reminds me of Guy Gavriel Kay which if you've...more
This was a much better book than the first one. I had teetered on the brink of not reading it, but I'm glad that I did. You get to enjoy a story with a clear storyline, protagonists who aren't muddled failures (this time the antagonists bearing the brunt of self loathing and the ill consequences of the ill seed sewn. It's still not a happy story, but that was never required.
All the reviews say that book 3 is where things are going to really pick up, and I'm a bit afraid to read it, but this is d...more
All the reviews say that book 3 is where things are going to really pick up, and I'm a bit afraid to read it, but this is d...more
So in book 1, Abraham took 160-170 pages to get to the plot of where the characters that we identify and connect with start actually acting, versus merely reacting to the environment.
In book 2, one would expect this to get better. And the author does do a better job, by giving us more people doing stuff, but not the protagonists. Ultimately, it is 150 pages in when the story finally has some rising actions for characters we give a damn about.
I'm going to finish the series, I'm curious to see wha...more
In book 2, one would expect this to get better. And the author does do a better job, by giving us more people doing stuff, but not the protagonists. Ultimately, it is 150 pages in when the story finally has some rising actions for characters we give a damn about.
I'm going to finish the series, I'm curious to see wha...more
I'm torn by this series. It seems as if Abraham is vaguely aware of the power of some of the ideas in his books. The concept(s) of the Andat have tremendous potential. Unfortunately Abraham doesn't seem able to draw out that potential. Instead the books are filled with largely mundane and uninteresting minutia of the world...
Frankly, I'm interested in the concept of an idea made into a flawed and oblivion-seeking semi-mortals who seek to undermine their keepers. I'm not as interested in the minu...more
Frankly, I'm interested in the concept of an idea made into a flawed and oblivion-seeking semi-mortals who seek to undermine their keepers. I'm not as interested in the minu...more
Although I still like the series, I'm feeling somewhat frustrated by the abilities of the characters. What do I mean? Well, as in the Harry Potter series, Harry seems to be a hero, yet, his friends are the ones who perform heroic acts. In this series, the characters seem to come to a resolution through a series of circumstances or actions brought upon by strong emotions. I must enjoy this on an empathic level at least, as I've finished the first two books of the series in three and half days. Ye...more
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While certainly more interesting than the first book, I still would have to say as a whole this series is still under performing compared to my expectations after reading so many good reviews on it. Not that it's bad, and indeed I'm rounding up to give it a solid three stars but I was hoping for "exceptional" and while I can admire the writing, and like how the author is putting a somewhat new spin on the classic fantasy epic it still falls short for me. Still, it does seem to be building, and I...more
Daniel Abraham is a frankly stunningly talented writer, and so far his debut Long Price Quartet is some of the finest long form fantasy I've read. A Betrayal in Winter is a blood-soaked tragedy with compelling characters twisted by the strictures of society and their own nature into outcomes none of them truly desire, set in an original and rich Eastern-tinged setting, with a gestural sublanguage, rigid societal rules, and most intriguing of all, the andat - demigodlike concepts-made-form, bound...more
I think this book was just as good as the first in the series. The book combines fantasy with a touch of political thriller, romance, mystery, etc. I think Abraham was brilliant in putting over a decade between the end of the first book and the beginning of this one. That allowed for him to hint at interesting and important events that happened in-between, piquing a reader's interest and really contributing to the sense of wanting more. Many of the same characters returned, with several new ones...more
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Daniel Abraham is an American science fiction / fantasy author who lives in Albuquerque, New Mexico. He is a graduate of Clarion West, and sometimes collaborates with George R. R. Martin, another New Mexico resident.
His short stories have appeared in numerous publications and anthologies. His novelette Flat Diane was nominated for the Nebula Award. His novelette The Cambist and Lord Iron: a Fairyt...more
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His short stories have appeared in numerous publications and anthologies. His novelette Flat Diane was nominated for the Nebula Award. His novelette The Cambist and Lord Iron: a Fairyt...more
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