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Surface Detail (Culture #9)
It begins in the realm of the Real, where matter still matters. It begins with a murder. It will not end until the Culture has gone to war with death itself. Lededje Y'breq is one of the Intagliated, her marked body bearing witness to a family shame, her life belonging to a man whose lust for power is without limit. Prepared to risk everything for her freedom, her release,...more
Hardcover, 627 pages
Published
October 28th 2010
by Orbit/Hatchette Book Group (NYC)
(first published 2010)
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When one rates an audiobook, is one rating the quality of the underlying written work, the quality of the audio version, or both? I suppose I'll just clarify that my five-star rating applies to both in this case.
Surface Detail is the latest of the Culture Novels from Iain M. Banks. The wait for this one was worth it. I think I'm ready to say that Use of Weapons has finally been supplanted as the best of the Culture books.
I'll write a proper review of Surface Detail, the book, after I've read the...more
Surface Detail is the latest of the Culture Novels from Iain M. Banks. The wait for this one was worth it. I think I'm ready to say that Use of Weapons has finally been supplanted as the best of the Culture books.
I'll write a proper review of Surface Detail, the book, after I've read the...more
Banks is one of my all time favourites, but had put out some disappointments recently - Algebraist and Matter were just plain no good. Some of the straight fiction stuff had also been really below par, but he's put out Transitions and now this and I'm ready to say 'all is forgiven.' There are some cookie-cutter chapters, where you think that he's repeating scenes and characters and just varying the outlandish architecture/hunt-scene/cruel game/unusual dinner and pretending that it's something el...more
Aug 08, 2012
aPriL MEOWS often with scratching
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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soap-opera
I think an Intagliate being is the neatest alien pan-human I've ever read about it. Every cell in her body tattooed? Wow.
However, despite the amazing plot intricacies of the 600+ page book, I was disappointed by the somewhat secondary roles of most of the female characters. They were mostly appealing, needing rescue, and not as tough as the males despite the Culture's ability to change anyone into anything. Apparently sexual transmutation does not mess with sexual stereotypes from primitive 20t...more
However, despite the amazing plot intricacies of the 600+ page book, I was disappointed by the somewhat secondary roles of most of the female characters. They were mostly appealing, needing rescue, and not as tough as the males despite the Culture's ability to change anyone into anything. Apparently sexual transmutation does not mess with sexual stereotypes from primitive 20t...more
Iain M. Banks’s Culture stories are among my favourite science-fiction reads, and I fall eagerly upon each new book in the series as it appears. They vary in their emotional intensity and the degree of intellectual effort they demand from the reader, but they are unfailingly entertaining.
Surface Detail is surely the lightweight in the Culture club. It does not fail to entertain, but it disappointed me all the same. This was for several reasons, the most salient being that I found the constantly...more
Surface Detail is surely the lightweight in the Culture club. It does not fail to entertain, but it disappointed me all the same. This was for several reasons, the most salient being that I found the constantly...more
Another excellent installment in what's probably my favorite ongoing SF series. Banks plays with themes of life, death, illusion and virtual reality, in a number of permutations and twists that's dizzying right from the beginning. There's more sheer old-fashioned sense of wonder in this book than you can shake a stick at. Some of the story lines are painfully intimate, others relate to the galaxy-wide politics of the "In-Play" civilizations, one of which is the post-scarcity Mind-run Culture we'...more
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I tried out this audiobook when Paul Krugman mentioned in his blog that Iain Banks is dying. Krugman is a big Sci-Fi fan. I wasn't sure if I had read any Iain Banks, so I checked out reviews on Goodreads and chose this one as the first to try. It turns out it is Book 9 in the series, so it may have been a shock immersion. I enjoyed it, but at times found it hard to keep track of the characters. I may try to work back through the earlier books. I think another reason I chose this one is that Audi...more
Critics are calling it “Singularity Punk” – stories about societies so advanced, even death becomes a lifestyle choice.
Imagine being able to copy, download and store a human mind – to be able to move it around like a computer program and run it inside a simulation that is absolutely indistinguishable from reality — a society where citizens are encouraged to “back themselves up” regularly so they can be resurrected in new bodies if they die.
If you had the power to store individuals in elaborate v...more
Imagine being able to copy, download and store a human mind – to be able to move it around like a computer program and run it inside a simulation that is absolutely indistinguishable from reality — a society where citizens are encouraged to “back themselves up” regularly so they can be resurrected in new bodies if they die.
If you had the power to store individuals in elaborate v...more
Originally published on my blog here in April 2011.
Another Banks novel sticks to a formula which he has now used many times. Perhaps this is not a shock, but for someone who was praised for his inventiveness at the beginning of his career, it is disappointing to read another failure to produce something new. That is not to say that Surface Detail is not well written and enjoyable to read; it is just too much like the other Culture novels, without a spark of special inspiration.
The background to...more
Another Banks novel sticks to a formula which he has now used many times. Perhaps this is not a shock, but for someone who was praised for his inventiveness at the beginning of his career, it is disappointing to read another failure to produce something new. That is not to say that Surface Detail is not well written and enjoyable to read; it is just too much like the other Culture novels, without a spark of special inspiration.
The background to...more
Surface Detail - Iain M Banks
A nice chunky book to get my teeth into whilst on holiday, and to immerse myself in the familiar Culture universe Mr Banks created so long ago. I'm not sure I can review this book as anything other than 'another' Culture novel, it's very hard to imagine picking this book up without having read so many of the others yet it does stand on it's own as they all do.
The subject this time is a paradoxical one, and one that I can't help but judge from the viewpoint of having...more
A nice chunky book to get my teeth into whilst on holiday, and to immerse myself in the familiar Culture universe Mr Banks created so long ago. I'm not sure I can review this book as anything other than 'another' Culture novel, it's very hard to imagine picking this book up without having read so many of the others yet it does stand on it's own as they all do.
The subject this time is a paradoxical one, and one that I can't help but judge from the viewpoint of having...more
Iain Banks "Culture" series is one of my favorite universes--a multi-cultural, multi-level, non-human-centric future where interstellar FTL ships (often warships retired from some great space war of the past) are inhabited by 'ship-minds', a form of intelligence greater than humans--although humans originally built them.
The separation of the more-advanced 'Culture' civilization from both higher-order forces of unknowable 'overseers' and more primitive societies that are nonetheless allowed thei...more
The separation of the more-advanced 'Culture' civilization from both higher-order forces of unknowable 'overseers' and more primitive societies that are nonetheless allowed thei...more
I am so glad the 'culture' novels are still being written, published and read. Here is sf not only with a grand vision but also with extremely well thought out details and a philosophical superstructure. sf for adults. I wish more of that got published, I'd read it in an instant (and I'm sure it's being written...)
what i love about this book which I think is one of the better 'culture' books (and even being able to say that speaks for Banks' monumental success) is the wealth of invention. I simp...more
what i love about this book which I think is one of the better 'culture' books (and even being able to say that speaks for Banks' monumental success) is the wealth of invention. I simp...more
The Culture is a great place to hang out - Iain M Banks crafts fantastic worlds where he doesn't simply look to the future but takes possibilities to their extremes. I used to read lots of Star Wars books and think they were good sci-fi; once you read Iain M Banks you will realise that space opera can be so, so much more. And it's all done with a razor-sharp black humour, that verges on the sick, but is always clever.
Surface Detail is a great example - in the Culture, and other sci-fi/ advanced...more
Surface Detail is a great example - in the Culture, and other sci-fi/ advanced...more
The story concerns virtual afterlives. Sufficiently advanced species across the galaxy build cyberspace realms for their members to upload their consciousness into after physical death. Certain perverted species create "Hells" to imprison and torture those who disagree with the ruling elites. These "Hells" network over the eons such that aliens of different species join each other in mutual everlasting pits of Government-enforced despair. Our friends in The Culture -- that perpetual, starfaring...more
"Those poor ponies. Why did he do that to them?"
That's all I could think when about a quarter of the way through this fantastic book -- "he" being Iain Banks. The ponies are actually a race of intelligent horse-like creatures with a pair of prehensile trunks, and Banks imagined an actual Hell for them to inhabit. I would call the horrors they endure there "indescribable," but Banks does an admirable job in describing them.
The basic idea is that once a civilization perfects virtual reality and br...more
That's all I could think when about a quarter of the way through this fantastic book -- "he" being Iain Banks. The ponies are actually a race of intelligent horse-like creatures with a pair of prehensile trunks, and Banks imagined an actual Hell for them to inhabit. I would call the horrors they endure there "indescribable," but Banks does an admirable job in describing them.
The basic idea is that once a civilization perfects virtual reality and br...more
This is a large and convoluted book about the meaning of life, which, of course, starts with a death. It is also a stunning story set in the world of The Culture and its neighbours. It follows several very different protagonists in several very different environments and mostly keeps the whole thing pulling together smoothly.
My only gripe with it would be that sometimes when Banks changes which protagonist's point of view he is narating from he does not always make it clear (sometimes not for a...more
My only gripe with it would be that sometimes when Banks changes which protagonist's point of view he is narating from he does not always make it clear (sometimes not for a...more
This is my second book of Culture series, and I continue to enjoy the happenings profoundly. This novel follows Lededje Y'breq, an abused lady through her death, afterlife and reincarnation. Meanwhile, we have parallel threads running about the war b/w hell and anti-hell factions and the impact it has on the rest of the mortals. Of course, we all know where Culture's inclinations lie, but it is fascinatingly unravelled. As in the other book, Minds are more fascinating and provide for a good read...more
Feeling ill and wanted an easy read. Not too easy these days if you are not a Potter or a Twilight fan... Iain M. Banks has always provided a fine dark vision sparkling with irreverence and a sort of tongue in cheek view of his own creations.
Needless to say, "Surface Detail" provides the sort of fractal complexity coupled with topological intricacy that one has come to expect. Not sure that the plot matters too much as long as it has a beginning, a middle and an end. Its the "surface details" th...more
Needless to say, "Surface Detail" provides the sort of fractal complexity coupled with topological intricacy that one has come to expect. Not sure that the plot matters too much as long as it has a beginning, a middle and an end. Its the "surface details" th...more
How do I love thee, Culture universe? Let me count the ways by playing--
Culture bingo!
Awesome tech: check
For starters, we have the standard fare of neural laces, AIs, drug glands, etc etc, everything that makes the Culture a level 8 civ. Today's main course is a Bulbitian, an ancient ship and a talking singularity. For desert, have a virtual Hell. Oh my.
Cool aliens: sorta-check
A clear majority of pan-human players this time, but you gotta love the GFCF. Plus, the Pavuleans are like...elephants o...more
Culture bingo!
Awesome tech: check
For starters, we have the standard fare of neural laces, AIs, drug glands, etc etc, everything that makes the Culture a level 8 civ. Today's main course is a Bulbitian, an ancient ship and a talking singularity. For desert, have a virtual Hell. Oh my.
Cool aliens: sorta-check
A clear majority of pan-human players this time, but you gotta love the GFCF. Plus, the Pavuleans are like...elephants o...more
Jan 13, 2012
Helen Lowe
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Recommends it for:
SciFi readers, especially those who enjoy "space opera."
Now I was probably always going to enjoy this book, because I am a longtime fan of the Culture ‘verse, ever since I read "Consider Phlebus"—which may even be Banks’ first novel, not just his first Culture novel.(Not sure on this point, but 'early' Banks at any rate.)
To me, the ‘verse of the Culture is space opera at its best—and here’s three of the things I really love about it: 'the ships, the ships, the ships.' (Oh yes, and knife missiles.) The Culture is a super-civilization of humans and AIs...more
To me, the ‘verse of the Culture is space opera at its best—and here’s three of the things I really love about it: 'the ships, the ships, the ships.' (Oh yes, and knife missiles.) The Culture is a super-civilization of humans and AIs...more
Surface Detail
is Iain M. Banks latest Culture novel, and... that's about it.
No, really. If you've read a Culture novel, you know what you're in for: a series of novelletish vignettes featuring a vast cast of characters, from all different types, two of which (the corporate sociopath and the political sociopath) will crop up, be lectured to by some nominal "good" protagonist, and eventually fall from grace and probably be killed in some gruesome manner.
If Banks applies himself at all in Surfac...more
No, really. If you've read a Culture novel, you know what you're in for: a series of novelletish vignettes featuring a vast cast of characters, from all different types, two of which (the corporate sociopath and the political sociopath) will crop up, be lectured to by some nominal "good" protagonist, and eventually fall from grace and probably be killed in some gruesome manner.
If Banks applies himself at all in Surfac...more
Iain Banks returns to The Culture, his massive, hugely advanced, galactic civilization, in “Surface Detail” (Orbit, $25.99, 627 pages) – which is good news for fans, who had to undergo an eight-year hiatus in the now eight-book series from 2000 to 2008.
The Culture is a liberal’s dream: Advances in technology and language have created a society in which everyone is healthy, there’s plenty of everything, and powerful artificial intelligences are just one of many species that live and trade togethe...more
The Culture is a liberal’s dream: Advances in technology and language have created a society in which everyone is healthy, there’s plenty of everything, and powerful artificial intelligences are just one of many species that live and trade togethe...more
If this were a movie, I'd be blinking myself awake in a chair, belly stuffed full of popcorn, remembering vaguely that there were lots of explosions and weak acting, and feeling a bit silly for having hoped it was going to be something else.
I really wanted to like this book. And I did, when it was called Excession. Banks has had these problems before in other novels, but here it really all comes together. It's a Culture Novel by the tropes.
Seriously, there's nothing in this book that you haven'...more
I really wanted to like this book. And I did, when it was called Excession. Banks has had these problems before in other novels, but here it really all comes together. It's a Culture Novel by the tropes.
Seriously, there's nothing in this book that you haven'...more
May 23, 2011
Josh Hamacher
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
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I first discovered Iain M. Banks about two decades ago, when I read "Use of Weapons" in junior high or thereabouts. I've been hooked ever since - I've read most of his output, whether as Iain M. Banks or just as plain-old Iain Banks. I eagerly devoured Matter several years ago when it first came out, only to be left disappointed.
So it was with some trepidation that I started reading this volume. But within 100 pages I was hooked and I didn't look back until I had finished it. Is this his stronge...more
So it was with some trepidation that I started reading this volume. But within 100 pages I was hooked and I didn't look back until I had finished it. Is this his stronge...more
I did not read this book; when I first opened the package, I gently wadded up clusters of ten or so pages, careful not to damage them too much; pulled out my paraphernalia kit, and one by one heated the clumps on a spoon, injecting them directly into my bloodstream.
As always, the effect of the drug only kicks in after about 100 pages of hits; it's less the body adjusting to the magic substance, and more the fact that the first 100 pages are created somewhat defensively, always a little bit rough...more
As always, the effect of the drug only kicks in after about 100 pages of hits; it's less the body adjusting to the magic substance, and more the fact that the first 100 pages are created somewhat defensively, always a little bit rough...more
May 10, 2011
Alan
rated it
3 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Confirmed and experienced fans
Recommended to Alan by:
Previous work
Iain M. Banks has earned more than a little slack from us over the years with his prodigious and amazing output. Surface Detail calls some of that back in. The book takes its time getting started. Its multiple opening chapters seem like little more than vignettes. But Banks' ability, the trust that he has earned over those decades, should keep you reading, as he begins weaving these disparate tales together.
Surface Detail turns out to be something like a pleasant, prolonged stroll through unfami...more
Surface Detail turns out to be something like a pleasant, prolonged stroll through unfami...more
Ian M. Banks's latest Culture novel is, in my opinion, his best work to date. For the uninitiated, Culture novels usually revolve around the Culture, a perfect civilization of sorts, where people live as long as they want, benevolent (and sometimes malevolent) AIs control and provide for everything etc. Except there are tons of races in the galaxy (it is huge, after all) and the Culture deals with those both above and below it on the technological ladder. The most interesting sections of the Cul...more
The publication of a new Iain M Banks Culture novel is greatly exciting for me. Banks is one of the few contemporary sf writers who keep me interested in the state of the genre and give me faith in the longevity of science fiction. The Culture novels (of which this is the 8th) are not tied together by plot or character but by the universe he has created. The Culture is a fictional interstellar anarchic, socialist, and utopian group of post-scarcity Minds (AI) that exist individually as ships. Th...more
Banks’ “Culture” setting is one of the best pieces of world-building in Science Fiction and “Surface Detail” is another strong addition to the series of books set there. It is one of the longer Culture books and it does take some time to really get going with a lot of set-up and disparate plotlines that only really start to come together in the final section of the book so a bit of persistence is required to really understand where the story is going. Even if it can be hard to work out their sig...more
Satisfying but not spectacular entry in Banks' Culture series. Still has the trademark grand scope and wild imagination but lacking in the moral equivocation and dynamite plotting of some of his earlier books. I paused halfway through to read a couple of other books, which I haven't done with Banks before. Partly because I feared that he wouldn't be able to come up with an ending dramatic enough to live up to the heady concepts he introduced in the beginning. Interstellar societies going to virt...more
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Iain M. Banks is a pseudonym of Iain Banks which he uses to publish his Science Fiction.
Banks's father was an officer in the Admiralty and his mother was once a professional ice skater. Iain Banks was educated at the University of Stirling where he studied English Literature, Philosophy and Psychology. He moved to London and lived in the south of England until 1988 when he returned to Scotland, li...more
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Banks's father was an officer in the Admiralty and his mother was once a professional ice skater. Iain Banks was educated at the University of Stirling where he studied English Literature, Philosophy and Psychology. He moved to London and lived in the south of England until 1988 when he returned to Scotland, li...more
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