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Secrets to the Grave (Oak Knoll #2)

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#1 New York Times bestselling author Tami Hoag returns with her second thriller in the Deeper than the Dead microseries, exploring the early days of forensic investigation, the characteristics of innocence-and the nature of evil.

Marissa Fordham had a past full of secrets, a present full of lies. Everyone knew of her, but no one knew her.

When Marissa is found brutally mu...more

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Published December 28th 2010 by Dutton Adult (first published November 23rd 2010)

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Feb 28, 2011 Kathryn rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: first-reads

I won this book in a First Reads giveaway and I feel very lucky to have gotten it! It is a terrific book.

This is the first book I have read by Tami Hoag, but I now consider myself a fan. The book never has a slow spot and for its over 400 pages is a very quick read.

I highly recommend "Secrets to the Grave." If you like Harlan Coben and Tana French, this is definitely a book for you!

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Mar 13, 2013 ѕєяєηιтι rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: books-i-own, crime-fiction-mystery, read-in-2013

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Tami Hoag kesinlikle vazgeçilmez yazarlarım arasında şimdiye kadar beğenmediğim bir kitabı yok bu kitapla da değişmedi bu durum.

Yine çok akıcı merak uyandırıcı sizi içine çeken bir kitap.

İlk kitaptaki olayların üstünden bir yıl geçmiş durumda kendimizi buluyoruz ve yeni bir cinayet davasıyla karşılaşıyoruz. Bir kadın defalarca bıcaklanılmış göğüsleri kesilip çıkartılmış vajinası bıçak sokulmuş şekilde bulunuyor bayağı canice işlenmiş bir cinayet yani olaya şahit olan 4 yaşındaki küçük kızda...more

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Jul 05, 2011 Georgiann Hennelly rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Secrets to the Grave is the latest book in Tami Hoags deeper than the dead micro series, It picks up one year after the events of Deeper than the Dead. As the story opens residents of Oak Knoll, California find themselves once again dealing with murder. Anne , Vince, Tony and the rest of the characters are back on the scene to solve the new murder and finish wrapping up the loose ends in the See- No -Evil case from the previous boo. Tami Hoag draws her readers into the story in such a way that t...more

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Feb 21, 2013 Liz rated it 2 of 5 stars

Secrets to the Grave

This is a sequel to Deeper than the Dead set a few months later in 1986. Vince Leone is living in Oak Knoll, having retired from the FBI & married to Anne Navarre. He still offers his services as a consultant around the USA while Anne Navarre has quit teaching to pursue a degree in child psychology.

A local artist, a single mother, slaughtered with her four-year-old child near death herself. Marissa was stabbed dozens of time while Haley, the child, was smothered & lef...more

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Aug 31, 2012 Lizzie Hayes rated it 4 of 5 stars

‘Secrets to the Grave’ by Tami Hoag
Published by Orion, 13th January 2011. ISBN: 978-0-7528-9895-7

When reclusive artist Marissa Fordham is found brutally murdered, the only witness Haley her four-year-old daughter, the police call in Anne Leone, a child advocate to protect her, for Haley hasn’t spoken since she was found kneeling by her mother’s bloody body.

Anne is currently about to become the star witness in the trial of the man in the See-No-Evil murders. Anne is also the much loved wife of Vi...more

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May 16, 2012 Kathy Davie rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: mystery, suspense

Second in the Oak Knoll suspense series revolving around Vince and Anne Leone in the town of Oak Knoll in California.

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Oh, boy, talk about suspenseful. I actually started to suspect whodunnit, but I wouldn't have guessed the whydunnit. It was certainly an interesting look inside the head of behaviorists! And a very sad look at the difficulties involved in telling a four-year-old that her mother has died.

I just loved this quote. For such a "misfit", Zander is amazingly perceptive:

Her percep

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Mar 25, 2012 Jabberwocky rated it 1 of 5 stars

I am so indescribably tired of this character/storyline...
'Middle age, FBI/BSU/CIA Agent/ Police officer, Tall dark and handsome, the embodiment of the 'strong silent type'. Ex Wife, multiple children, Divorced because he was an absent father and husband... because he was 'too committed to the job' or 'the job was his whole life'. Falls passionately in love (puke) with younger, attractive woman and swears he will be a better man this time. *tear* Then catches the bad guy with his super-duper tal...more

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Jan 29, 2012 Vivisection rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: guilty-pleasures, grocery-store-impulse-purchase, psychological-mysteries, procedural-mysteries, lifetime-novels

Obviously, from my book lists, my dirty little secret is out. I like these kinds of books even though they're basically a lifetime movie in book form. I liked Deeper than Dead because of the characters but this time around feels forced. Oak Knoll is kind of a small town to be constantly beset by homicidal maniacs. That's their official name btw. Even the cops in this book call them homicidal maniacs so you know it's true.

I like stereotypes in my books they make it easy to know who the bad guys...more

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Nov 07, 2011 Karen Bonilla rated it 3 of 5 stars

The premise of this book sounded fabulous and i couldn't wait to read it. A young, single mother is brutally murdered and her child is almost killed. The little girl manages to call 9-1-1 and gasp "daddy hurt my mother" but the story takes place before they had the ability to trace those calls and it takes two days before they are discovered. No one seems to know anything about the woman's past or the child's father. Then they discover that there is no record of the mother ever existing before s...more

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Jul 31, 2011 Joan Swan rated it 3 of 5 stars

As a writer, I thought SECRETS FROM THE GRAVE had wonderful craft lessons to offer. As a reader, it felt a little too slow for me and I shelved it about 2/3 of the way through, while many, many of her other books have been unputdownable for me.

*****

I discovered Tami Hoag's work somewhere in the middle of her career with the romantic suspense thrillers Ashes to Ashes and Dust to Dust.

Her stories are vivid and fast paced and I've always found her ability to craft deeply difficult, violent, even gr...more

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Jul 02, 2011 Jessica Schira rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: adult-mystery-series

I was very excited when I first picked up Secrets to the Grace. I loved Deeper Than the Dead and could not wait to read the follow up. I was able to hold onto this excitement for the first third of the book, when it finally started to fade. As much as I enjoyed the first book, this one did not meet my admittedly high expectations.

In the books defense, it is very well written, and it has one of the best openings I have ever read. I adore the way Hoag started with a very peaceful, idyllic scene an...more

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Mar 20, 2011 Mom rated it 1 of 5 stars

Bad bad bad. This author has mistaken her genre. I was looking for a murder mystery and got a romance--candy sweet kid, torn bodice females, raging bull men, gag. Guessing these brain dead books involves picking the character portrayed as despicable but scrupulously avoided as a suspect. The good guys are pure and innocent whose self righteousness is stupidly portrayed as plucky justifiable. The only thing that could have saved this book would be for sweet irreproachable Sarah to turn out to be...more

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Mar 15, 2011 Lori L (She Treads Softly) rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

One thing became quite clear to me after reading Secrets to the Grave by Tami Hoag, the second book in the Deeper Than the Dead series: I don't want to move to Oak Knoll, California, no matter how idyllic the setting seems. This time young artist Marissa Fordham is found brutally murdered with her barely-alive four year old daughter, Haley, resting her head on her dead mother's shoulder.

Tony Mendez is back on the case with assistance from, among others, Vince Leone, former FBI profiler. Vince ha...more

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Mar 12, 2011 Cindy Meilink rated it 4 of 5 stars

Continuing where Deeper Than the Dead ended, Secrets to the Grave sweeps you along from the first page to the very last page of the book. The "who done it?" in this book keeps you guessing until the very end.

Anne is now married to Vince Leone, a profiler, and is still trying to cope with the nightmares she suffers through after Peter Crane's attempt on her life in the last book. Anne is now awaiting Crane's trial in the hope that it will help bring closure and peace to her life.

Vince becomes inv...more

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Jan 29, 2011 ALPHAreader rated it 5 of 5 stars

‘Secrets to the Grave’ is the second book in Tami Hoag’s mystery series, ‘Deeper Than Dead’.

The book opens on a spectacularly horrific murder scene. A four-year-old child is found, near death, beside her mutilated mother.

The murder of artist, Marissa Fordham, takes a toll on the small college community of Oak Knoll . . . even more so when Fordham’s daughter, Haley, recuperates from the murder that local authorities are convinced was executed by someone close to the victim. The local Sheriff has...more

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Jan 26, 2011 Paul Pessolano rated it 4 of 5 stars

You don't want to live in Oak Knoll, California. There are probably more psychos running around this city than in most states.

Marissa Fordham is found brutally murdered, and to make matters worse her four year old daughter,Haley, is found next to her and barely alive.

Anne Leone is a child advocate and her husband, Vince, is an FBI profiler and both become totally involved in the case. Anne is also involved with a twelve year old, Dennis Farman, who has been placed in a mental institution. Dennis...more

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Jan 01, 2011 Literary Feline rated it 4 of 5 stars

On the heels of finishing Deeper Than the Dead, I dived into the sequel, Secrets to the Grave. For those who aren't sticklers about reading series books in order, I would recommend you do so in this case. While Secrets to the Grave could be read as a stand alone (the author does a good job filling in the back story), there are significant characters and storylines that carry over.

Secrets to the Grave opens with a grisly murder scene. A four year old girl is found barely alive next to her dead mo...more On the heels of finishing Deeper Than the Dead, I dived into the sequel, Secrets to the Grave. For those who aren't sticklers about reading series books in order, I would recommend you do so in this case. While Secrets to the Grave could be read as a stand alone (the author does a good job filling in the back story), there are significant characters and storylines that carry over.

Secrets to the Grave opens with a grisly murder scene. A four year old girl is found barely alive next to her dead mother. Set a year after the first book in the micro-series, the physical and emotional wounds from the serial killings are still raw but on their way to healing. Then to have a respected up-and-coming artist brutally murdered and an attempt made on her young daughter's life, the small college community finds itself upside down again in grief.

The nature of the crime points to a very personal kind of attack--someone who knew the victim. The local sheriff and his investigators don't hesitate to call in former FBI profiler Vince Leone to help. Anne's gift with children is put to its ultimate test when she reaches out to four year old
Haley, the only witness and survivor to the horrific crime. Anne must not only try and help Haley, but she must battle the wealthy godmother who wants custody of Haley. As a result, she is forced to sacrifice some of the time she was spending with a very disturbed 12 year old, who, save for her, the world has given up on. This brings about its own consequences.

Tami Hoag has created a setting and characters that remind me of a cozy mystery--a small town with sometimes eccentric but always interesting characters--but make no mistake. These books are not cozies. They are at times dark and violent.

Like with the first book in the series, there is a lot going on in Secrets to the Grave. The lives of the characters and their histories are tightly woven into the plot and subplots. I especially like the team aspect of the novel--that it isn't one person solving the crime, but rather a group of people, working together. The author also shows varying aspects of violent crime, including the emotional impact it has on a community as well as the individuals.

I did like the first book slightly more than this second book. There were certain markers that were more obvious in Secrets to the Grave that led me to figure out who did what sooner. Even so, I enjoyed the novel and spending more time with the characters. There is more I would like to say about this second book, about its characters, but I don't want to give away too much or else I'll spoil the first book. Besides, I think you should find out for yourselves!
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Feb 05, 2011 Jeanne rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: 2011-reads

This was a sequel to Hoag's "Deeper Than The Dead" which I read a year ago. The core characters were the same, and the "see-no-evil" murderer still hasn't been tried. Once again, I find it distracting that the author deliberately sets the mystery in the mid-eighties before DNA evidence and other forensic advances. Oddly, though it is before these things, the detectives all seemed to have knowledge of what these things were and what they would do - can't have it both ways, unless her detectives a...more

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Jan 08, 2012 Linda rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: fiction, mystery-thriller

Secrets to the Grave is an able follow-up to Deeper than the Dead, suspenseful and plenty engrossing, though it comes up a little bit short of its predecessor. I'm an unabashed Tami Hoag fan, and Secrets to the Grave is a perfectly good offering, but at the same time, she's done better.

I was happy to revisit the key characters of Deeper than the Dead, and so soon after the events of that book that some many, many details carry over. I still enjoy the relationship between Anne Navarre and Vince L...more Secrets to the Grave is an able follow-up to Deeper than the Dead, suspenseful and plenty engrossing, though it comes up a little bit short of its predecessor. I'm an unabashed Tami Hoag fan, and Secrets to the Grave is a perfectly good offering, but at the same time, she's done better.

I was happy to revisit the key characters of Deeper than the Dead, and so soon after the events of that book that some many, many details carry over. I still enjoy the relationship between Anne Navarre and Vince Leone, and the stories of some of the children that were at the center of Deeper than the Dead are handled believably. True to form, the story begins with a shocking crime, and I'm providing my customary warning to the squeamish. If you blanch easily, better brace yourself for the first few chapters.

To her credit, Hoag dialed back quite a bit on the "someday in the future we'll have this technology" crystal-ball commentary from characters that so annoyingly permeated Deeper than the Dead. Still, she can't resist a few such mentions, and guess what, it's still intrusive. However, something I will praise her for is her very realistic treatment of the lasting trauma reactions of crime victims. While her characters seem a little more aware of "PTSD", both by name and as a syndrome, than seems appropriate for 1986, Hoag doesn't hesitate to show the reality of the characters' symptoms and complexes. Also well done is her treatment of the then still-developing field of child advocacy in the criminal justice system -- she generally manages to show readers its early stages without resorting to those "someday this new-fangled thing will be commonplace" asides.

The book's main weakness for me was the field of suspects for the crime. In typical fashion, there are several potential perpetrators -- including a couple you know can't be the killer, because that would just be too easy -- but none of them are particularly compelling. I think part of me was always waiting for another character to be introduced who would wind up being the actual perpetrator. In the end, I also found the true killer's identity to be somewhat unconvincing -- between details of the crime that you wouldn't think would fit such a killer, and a motive that seemed out of proportion to the actual crime.

I dithered for a long time before picking my star rating on this one. What I really wanted to do is give it 3.5 stars. The murder mystery was good, though not one of Hoag's best. On the other hand, the character development and storytelling was quite good (the description of an ordeal suffered by the murder victim's closest friend Gina is a particular standout). All told, the story held my interest well and the narrative kept pushing me forward (including a couple nights into the dark wee hours with my book light), but still, I couldn't quite bring myself to round up, so it ends up with a solid 3-star, "I liked it" rating. :)(less)

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Jan 27, 2011 Jen A. rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: 2011

A brutal murder and a 4-year-old witness left (barely) alive start off this fantastic, yet often gruesome, mystery/thriller. Hoag is accomplished at drafting a story that covers all bases and works hard to hold onto its surprises until the end; this book is no exception.

As I read along with murder mysteries, I always try to guess "whodunit." This book had me barking up all the wrong trees until just before the final reveal, when the situation turned down an unexpected street. A good mystery wit...more

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May 10, 2013 Roxann rated it 4 of 5 stars

I really liked the first in this series, Deeper Than the Dead and decided to continue with the Trilogy. The second book starts a year after Deeper Than the Dead ends and is set in the same small town in California. Again this small town has to deal with another murderer. This book didn't seem as well written as the first. Many twists and turns that at times I put the book down and waited for the next day to start reading again.

The ending (who was the murderer) took me by surprise.

This book is...more

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Nov 06, 2011 Jennifer Mclean rated it 3 of 5 stars

This is book 2 in the Oak Knoll series and while I really enjoyed being back in the characters' lives, I was disappointed in the wrap-up of the mystery. Again, Ms. Hoag managed to keep the reader on edge about who was actually the killer but the motivation just wasn't strong enough for me. A lot of the actions the killer exhibited did not fit with the way the eventual end scene played out. No spoilers in this review, but I thought other characters would have been better suited to be the killer w...more

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Oct 09, 2011 Vicki Hoare rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: library, mystery-thriller

Secrets of the Grave is an entertaining read but there seemed to be something missing. It didn't grip me like a good crime fiction should.

I also didn't bond with the major characters. I picked this book up a the library not realising it was the second book in a series. The book had it's own story line (with occasional references to the first book) but the characters were probably better defined in the first book of the series.

Unfortunately I took a dislike to one of the central characters: Butt...more

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Mar 22, 2011 Beverly rated it 4 of 5 stars

Second in the Deeper Than Dead series, this continues where that left off. Anne and Vince are now married and living in Oak Knoll. An artist and single mother Melissa Fordham is found brutally murdered in her home and her daughter Haley is near death. Vince is called in to help with the case and Anne in her role as child advocate becomes Haley's guardian. Many candidates for the murderer. Melissa's best friend Gina knows something but before she can tell the police she goes missing. Melissa's ne...more

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Sep 09, 2011 Joanne rated it 3 of 5 stars

Secrets... is the sequel to Deeper than Dead. While you don't have to have read Deeper, you miss out on a lot of character development. But even with that flaw, the story is compelling and the ending somewhat unexpected. A four year old is left for dead; she is found over her mother's eviscerated body. She managed a phone call, saying, "my daddy hurt my mommy," before being almost strangled to death. The problem is that only one person seemingly knows who her father is, and she has disappeared....more

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Feb 08, 2011 Shiela rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: mystery, suspense

I really do like Tami Hoag. She is one of the very few authors that does not get lazy with her craft and feel the need to saturate the market with as much drivel as she can pump out after she's made a name for herself. Readers have to be patient as she only publishes a book 1-1 1/2 years but its well worth the wait and "Secrets to the Grave" is no different.

This is a sequel to her last book "Deeper than the Dead" with the killer from that book awaiting trial and the plotlines of several characte...more

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Jul 25, 2012 Elizabeth rated it 3 of 5 stars

There's something rotten in the state of Oak Knoll. Two books into Tami Hoag's newest series and I wonder why anyone would ever want to live in the so-called idyllic Oak Knoll, California, home of too many killers to count. If it were a real town, I would wonder if it was the town that created the killers or if there was something about the town that attracted them. Either way, the Oak Knoll Sheriff's Department needs an upgrade STAT.

Secrets to the Grave takes place a little over a year after th...more There's something rotten in the state of Oak Knoll. Two books into Tami Hoag's newest series and I wonder why anyone would ever want to live in the so-called idyllic Oak Knoll, California, home of too many killers to count. If it were a real town, I would wonder if it was the town that created the killers or if there was something about the town that attracted them. Either way, the Oak Knoll Sheriff's Department needs an upgrade STAT.

Secrets to the Grave takes place a little over a year after the end of Deeper Than the Dead, and while this book could technically be read as a standalone novel, it would be best if you read it following the first book.

In Secrets to the Grave, Anne Navarre (now Leone) and her husband Vince are back, as are several of the other characters from the last book, including Tony Mendez, who I would love to see in more of a leading role in future books. The action in this book mainly surrounds 4 year old Haley Fordham, whose mother was found murdered in the first few pages. Because she had no family to speak of, Haley ends up staying with Anne and Vince despite the pleadings of Maureen Upchurch, Haley's social services case worker, and Milo Bordain, Haley's stand-in grandmother.

Secrets to the Grave is an engrossing read, but I had trouble with some aspects of the book. First of all, I figured out the killer fairly early on in the novel, and while at times I had my doubts as to the identity of the killer, I was nowhere near as surprised as the characters were when the killer was revealed.

My second issue, is probably more of a time period issue than it is an issue with the book itself, but the fact is I am reading this book in 2012 not 1986 and I can't see things out of a 26 year old lens. My issue of course has to do with the treatment of gay characters in the novel. Of course they were written in as possible killers and of course we were supposed to think of them as the killer because they were closeted gay men. Each time one of the character brought up the gay angle, I wanted to bang my head against something. That said, it was interesting in an anthropological/sociological way to see how people in 1986 thought and how much of that hasn't changed in the last twenty-six years. We like to think that we have become more open-minded about these things, but the fact is that many people in this country would rather see them as killers because of their gayness. But, I digress...

My final issue with this book and with Deeper Than the Dead was the representation of Dennis Farman. If you have read Deeper Than the Dead, you know that Dennis was the abused son of s psychotic sheriff's detective, and who attempted to murder two of his classmates. My problem with this is really about the way every character thought about him. Everyone, excluding Anne--at least up until a certain point, believed that Dennis was broken and that there was nothing they could have done for him. Honestly, Dennis could have been used as the perfect example of the sociological theory that claims that if we don't bond with someone--hopefully a parent--by the age of 8, we're doomed to a life of lawlessness and inadequacy. Personally, I find that theory dismal and I do not subscribe to it. Unfortunately, whether Ms. Hoag knows it or not, she seems to, at least when it comes to characters in her novels.

I gave this book a three star review despite the issues I had with it because it was a very entertaining read. Ms. Hoag's prose had me hooked from the beginning and that says a lot. I could have given up on this book several times because of the problems I had with it, but I didn't. There were a couple of reasons why. First was Ms. Hoag's narrative style. Second was that I cared about the characters. That might say more about Deeper Than the Dead than it does for Secrets to the Grave (because most of the main characters were introduced in that book), but what can I say.(less)

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Dec 15, 2012 Diane rated it 4 of 5 stars

Starts off with the murder of Marcie Fordham a local artist and the attempted murder of her 4 y/o daughter.

The story is filled with twists and turns. Is Haley really Marcie's daughter? ?Marcie Fordham? was that really her real name? As the investigation progresses there seems to be more questions than answers.

The characters are well developed all with problems of their own. Each of the main characters have flaws and good points. Haley stays with the Leones during the investigation. Vince is the...more

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Dec 21, 2010 Molly rated it 5 of 5 stars Recommends it for: all suspense lovers

Recommended to Molly by: TLC

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Wow! Another masterpiece by Tami Hoag! Secrets to the Grave, picks up a year after where Deeper Than The Dead left off. Once again, Hoag's readers are instantly transported to Oak Knoll, California where another murder has once again occurred. Tami Hoag brings us another roller coaster suspense novel.

Secrets to the Grave is written in a wonderfully detailed style that brings the readers up to date on the murders happening in Oak Know, leaving the story perfect as a stand alone title, or a perfe...more

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Jan 31, 2011 Jerry rated it 3 of 5 stars

When it takes us nearly two weeks to read a typical novel, that’s a mini-book review in itself ! Indeed we slogged to get through “Secrets”, definitely a sequel, and better read, therefore, after Hoag’s just prior “Deeper Than The Dead” – all the main characters in that one are back, plus some new ones. There were so many backward references, without that much back-story or fill work, we’d recommend against starting with this one.

In the story, an artist, Marissa Fordham, is found brutally murder...more

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