Ginger Man, The
First published in Paris in 1955, and originally banned in the United States, J. P. Donleavy’s first novel is now recognized the world over as a masterpiece and a modern classic of the highest order. Set in Ireland just after World War II, The Ginger Man is J. P. Donleavy’s wildly funny, picaresque classic novel of the misadventures of Sebastian Dangerfield, a young Americ...more
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Published
February 5th 2010
by Grove/Atlantic, Inc.
(first published 1955)
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I'd hazard a guess that this is one of Shane McGowan's favourite books. Personally, I found the wife-punching, baby-smothering, lying, stealing gobshite of the title utterly charmless. Reading the reviews, however, he's apparently a delightful comic rapscallion. Perhaps this sort of thing was daring and bawdy back in the uptight 1950s.
If, like me, Dangerfield's sozzled transatlantic blarney leaves you cold, you are left with the world's most unconvincing sex-machine (with the possible exception...more
If, like me, Dangerfield's sozzled transatlantic blarney leaves you cold, you are left with the world's most unconvincing sex-machine (with the possible exception...more
A great big stream of consciousness slice of life book about the boozing, lazy, nasty, cruel, selfish Sebastian Dangerfield, an American in Dublin who is supposed to be studying law at Trinity but instead drinks all day, chases women and exchanges abuse with his wife.
To be sure, Sebastian is an unpleasant character, but that doesn’t bother me. I was simply bored by the events of the novel. I didn’t find it, as all the blurbs promised, an exuberant, witty, wildly comic escapade. Donleavy’s writin...more
To be sure, Sebastian is an unpleasant character, but that doesn’t bother me. I was simply bored by the events of the novel. I didn’t find it, as all the blurbs promised, an exuberant, witty, wildly comic escapade. Donleavy’s writin...more
I couldn't help but think of the fine British comedy Withnail And I while reading this. Much like the dialogue in that film, Donleavy's witty, loosely constructed vignettes might be a bit disorienting at first bit they grow on you and you find yourself chuckling more and more especially in the more bizarre stream of consciousness moments (kangaroo costumes, public transportation "wardrobe malfunctions"). The other point of reference for me was Tropic Of Cancer as the narrator is also an "anti he...more
this is # 99 on my list of 100. i received the greatest joy when i read the last page and didn t have to spend any more time with ,sabastian. is this a great novel cause donleavy describes in great detail one of the worst characters in literature ? he is cruel to women and yet they keep coming back to him. he doesn t work, barely studies his law books, has no redeeming qualities. he reminds me of the college drunks who wasted their education in college. there are so many bad books on this list...more
"Ginger Man" è la storia di un mostro senza tempo, un diavolo in carne e ossa, un angelo perfido e carismatico. Sebastian Dangerfield è un bel giovanotto e un insaziabile disgraziato, il maschio che ogni donna non può che odiare, con ogni vizio e pochissime virtù: seduttore, erotomane, ladro, imbroglione, violento, bevitore, ingordo - il tipo che abbandona la moglie con la bambina, ruba i soldi dalla borsetta e va a farsi il giro dei pub, invidiato da qualunque altro uomo perché riesce a farla f
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#99 on the Modern Library Board's List. Published in 1955. If there's a reason people don't succeed in working through the Modern Library backwards, it's probably this. "The Ginger Man" is a novel for no one, except perhaps sociopathic poser intellectuals who find bawdy antipathy entertaining.
I'll start with Donleavy's prose style, the only redeeming thing about the novel. "The Ginger Man" swerves wildly between the first and third person, an interior monologue one moment and a systematic sketch...more
I'll start with Donleavy's prose style, the only redeeming thing about the novel. "The Ginger Man" swerves wildly between the first and third person, an interior monologue one moment and a systematic sketch...more
What kind of social lives do the people who review books professionally lead? I honestly looked at the back of the book more than once to make sure I read it right. Anyone who thinks Sebastian Dangerfield is a 'Rougeish cad' and this story is 'picaresque' have all the frame of reference of a 13 year old kid who idolizes the out of work greaser who hangs out by the 7-11 getting stoned as the coolest guy in the world. I have tons of friends who get drunk and loud and make parties happen. I've got...more
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The Ginger Man by J.P. Donleavy is one of the books I've had on my shelf for years that I've always meant to read. It was a gift from a friend who knew my love for rollicks.
The Ginger Man is every inch the rollick. Written in mainly as the running interior monologue of Sebastian Dangerfield, the text is littered with traces of the high modernists; Donleavy's punctuation seems haphazard until you realize that it's written in t...more
The Ginger Man by J.P. Donleavy is one of the books I've had on my shelf for years that I've always meant to read. It was a gift from a friend who knew my love for rollicks.
The Ginger Man is every inch the rollick. Written in mainly as the running interior monologue of Sebastian Dangerfield, the text is littered with traces of the high modernists; Donleavy's punctuation seems haphazard until you realize that it's written in t...more
I truly enjoyed this book -- and I'm a woman. I don't know why so many people seem to be so appalled by the protagonist Sebastian Dangerfield. Sure, I don't personally agree with many of Dangerfield's actions (his often offensive behavior seems to be the sole reason as to why some people slam The Ginger Man).
However, I don't read literature to find examples of perfect angels who never commit a sin. I read selective fiction, for the most part, to be engaged in an entertaining tale. Donleavy more...more
However, I don't read literature to find examples of perfect angels who never commit a sin. I read selective fiction, for the most part, to be engaged in an entertaining tale. Donleavy more...more
Jun 11, 2011
Judy
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3 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
20th-century-fiction,
books-from-1958
The long and tortured history of J P Donleavy's first novel parallels the trials and tribulations of Sebastian Dangerfield, anti-hero and bad boy, aka the Ginger Man. Because of sexual content, Donleavy had a heck of a time getting published and until 1965, all versions were expurgated (obscene or objectionable passages deleted.) It is considered a classic as well as Donleavy's best work.
As the story opens, Dangerfield is unhappily married to a woman whom he had hoped would bring him money but i...more
I became aware of this book after recently reading a Hunter S. Thompson biography, wherein it describes how Hunter discovered the book in New York, and did his best to imitate Dangerfield's lifestyle. After reading the Ginger Man it became apparent that Hunter had at last found a hard act to follow in terms of womanising, alcohol abuse and empty promises.
Apparently the Ginger Man was turned down by something like 40 publishers before finding it's way to the mainly pornographic publishers Olympi...more
Apparently the Ginger Man was turned down by something like 40 publishers before finding it's way to the mainly pornographic publishers Olympi...more
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How important is it for the reader to like the central protagonist of a novel? Obviously if one is going to spend hundreds of pages in – or around – a character’s head, then it is preferable to empathise with him or her. However there are some books, Dostoyevsky’s ‘Notes From Underground’ say, where clearly we are not supposed to like the central character and yet the passion of the prose is such that we can’t help but admire the work anyway.
These thoughts were high in my mind as I read ‘The Gin...more
These thoughts were high in my mind as I read ‘The Gin...more
Sep 24, 2009
Mick Stepp
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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Shelves:
scoundrels,
re-reads
I have to be careful when I talk about this book. Especially with women. Most women despise The Ginger Man. Actually, what they despise is the Sebastian Dangerfield character for he is a drunken, misogynistic, lecherous scoundrel, the very kind of man they are terrified that their daughters might someday meet. The more open minded among them, however, appreciate the quality of Donleavy's rendering, the richness and inventiveness of the language and the out and out hilarity of the story.
I love wo...more
I love wo...more
The Ginger Man is described as a “picaresque” novel, which if you don't know is a fictional story that is usually satirical and depicts, in realistic and often humorous detail, the adventures of a roguish hero of low social class who lives by his wits in a corrupt society. In this case, the protagonist is Sebastian Dangerfield, an American studying at Trinity College in Dublin who spends his time drinking, picking up women, avoiding bill collectors, and evading responsibility while dreaming of a...more
it must be some sort of literary masterstroke to make me read and mostly enjoy 350 pages about an unlikable sociopath. this book made me want to shower very thoroughly afterwards...and then have some tea. writing this, i feel like i have a filth caked on me from having witnessed Donleavy's transgressions and yet stayed with him/the book afterwards, somehow empathizing enough to where Donleavy made me part of Dangerfield's mistakes, and yet capable of the very empathy of which Dangerfield is not....more
Mar 21, 2013
Patrick Sprunger
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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read-in-2013,
fiction
The Ginger Man is so many things at once: Like the best book I've ever read, as well as the worst. It's easily the worst book because of its hero, who makes Humbert Humbert look like a pious man.* It is easily the best book because of its manly, sturdy, energetic prose. What man and the Celtic-Saxon race and red blood were made for.**
Overall, I prefer Sir Digby Chicken-Ceasar to Sebastian Dangerfield, as that former old gentleman is less of a misogynist and has his drinking problem under better...more
Overall, I prefer Sir Digby Chicken-Ceasar to Sebastian Dangerfield, as that former old gentleman is less of a misogynist and has his drinking problem under better...more
While reading The Ginger Man, I could not help but realize that Donleavy’s stye was reminiscent of James Joyce, however, this book was Joyce on Lithium. In other words, this was readable stream of consciousness, not pages of words without order or punctuation, ala Joyce. This is the quintessential picaresque novel.
An American studying law in 1948 at Trinity College in Dublin seems to lack focus, finances and fortitude. Living with his English wife and infant daughter, he somehow fails to find ti...more
An American studying law in 1948 at Trinity College in Dublin seems to lack focus, finances and fortitude. Living with his English wife and infant daughter, he somehow fails to find ti...more
It's hard for me to admit I enjoyed this book even a little, as it reveals nothing about human nature and sheds no light on its characters. Infact, its characters, specifically the protagonist, Mr. Dangerfield, remain as loathsome as ever from start to finish. As he lies, steals, drinks, and takes advantage of numerous women, engaging in adulterous affairs, the reader is forced to sit back, entirely helpless, watching with horror as an increasing amount of chaos ensues.
And yet, my dark sense o...more
And yet, my dark sense o...more
People have been telling me to read this novel for most of my life. I'd resisted because I don't like things being pushed on me and because I'm a demi-ginger myself and wasn't sure I trusted the title. Had I read it in my youth, I might have admired its drunken spirit, its (pardon me) joie d'ivre. But I'm not so young anymore and I've read better.
Donleavy seems to want to be both Joyce (with whom he doesn't measure up) and Miller (where he fares a bit better). I kept looking for Donleavy but fo...more
Donleavy seems to want to be both Joyce (with whom he doesn't measure up) and Miller (where he fares a bit better). I kept looking for Donleavy but fo...more
What a book. The Irish have a way with words.
A likable feller, then an unlikable feller, Dangerfield is the hero of this story. A very bad bad hero, as he womanizes, boozes, and is a inveterate liar. You follow his misadventures, marvel at his sheer tenacity at the face of utter bankruptcy of coin and moral spirit.
This book is a mass of seething contradictions. It must be said of the Irish, or at least the Irish I read in books written by Irishmen, that they revel in the conflicting nature of...more
A likable feller, then an unlikable feller, Dangerfield is the hero of this story. A very bad bad hero, as he womanizes, boozes, and is a inveterate liar. You follow his misadventures, marvel at his sheer tenacity at the face of utter bankruptcy of coin and moral spirit.
This book is a mass of seething contradictions. It must be said of the Irish, or at least the Irish I read in books written by Irishmen, that they revel in the conflicting nature of...more
I found the stream-of-consciousness style of The Ginger Man to be fairly hard to read, although I got used to it as the book went on. The book is told from the perspective of Sebastian Dangerfield, who I suspect was losing his sanity as the novel progressed, thereby making his descriptions of events unclear. Sebastian frequently daydreamed, and these daydreams were interspersed with his descriptions of current events, so that it became difficult to tell what was real and what was not. No doubt t...more
JPD launched a storied literary career with a masterpiece in The Ginger Man. Sebastian, which means "venerable," is a man perpetually on the brink of utter madness brought largely upon himself. He is a Trinity College Dublin man whose condition is given to "staving off starvation" and whose only option when things always get worse is to "cheer-up or die." When you consider that JPD was first a painter, it's understandable that his writing style is pointillistic. The syntax like Dangerfield is no...more
Apr 17, 2010
carl theaker
rated it
2 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
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modern-library-100
I always say an author's job is to make you love the characters or
hate them, either way it should be counted as a success. So I think folks who
say they don't like a book because character soandso was a horrible
fellow or whatnot are missing the point.
So dangit! my turn to miss the point- I found this fellow so
despicable, and maybe too close to some folks I know, that I couldn't like it.
On a more practical side it is a comedy written in 1952 taking
place in England and it is difficult for humor to...more
"She leaped into my arms and knocked me to ground and screamed into my mouth." So says the narrator of this novel, the equal parts loathsome and winning Sebastian Dangerfield, the Ginger Man, as he begins to recount one of his sexual conquests in the decidedly anti-sexual climate of post WWII Ireland, and that is how the reader feels, accosted and defiled by his exploits. The novel follows Dangerfield as he drinks, steals, fights, and screws his way through Dublin. He is a pretty much irredeemab...more
Jul 13, 2011
Tim Freeman
rated it
2 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
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literary-fiction-book-club
The stream of consciousness prose style mixed in with the ribald dialog and well drawn settings, raises the bar on judging this book on its other merits, because frankly this reader finds little to like as far as the main character is concerned and his cronies are no great shake either. Even the abused women he routinely takes advantage of are hard to understand since one wonders why they would fall for such an obvious cad. But this is fiction, not a historical memoir and I suppose the author is...more
May 21, 2009
Josiah
rated it
3 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommended to Josiah by:
Modern Library List Top 100-fiction
I feel like a traitor giving this even three stars, but the writing is brilliant. Each line tends to have its own weight and sense of being. There is poetry and music in the flow of the text. The author changes from first to third person and back, apparently randomly, but somehow even that makes sense after a while. So with all this going for the book, it seems as if the author has squandered his abilities on a squalid, sordid tale, of no remarkable consequence. It rather reminded me of being de...more
I wonder if neuroscientists will ever be able to analyse tears that contain the byproducts of great happiness and great sadness at the same time. And what is such an intense feeling called? Even to think of this book brings a tear to my eye, and reading it I cry buckets. This horrible, loveable, picaresque hero and antihero, this moonchild of Irish imagination. Wow
The ramblings of a young man as he tries to destroy himself and others with drink, debt, and women, while supposedly a law student with young wife and child in post ww2 Ireland. This book was very hard to read, the style is utterly different from anything I've read. It has lots of choppy phrases and unattributed dialogue. Often times things skip from past the present, thoughts to actions and things happen during the time span of the book which are not discussed but simply reffered to later on. I...more
Mar 17, 2012
Ilona
rated it
1 of 5 stars
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gave-up-on,
fiction-general
A truly dreadful book. I quit reading on page 29 of 347, and here’s why:
From the blurb from the back cover:
“…wildly funny, picaresque classic novel of the misdaventures of Sebastian Dangerfield, a young American ne’re-do-well….”
And this, from the fateful page 29:
“He drove his fist into Marion’s face [his wife]. She fell backward against the cupboard… In tattered underwear he stood at the nursery door. He kicked his foot through and tore off the lock to open it. Took the child’s pillow from und...more
From the blurb from the back cover:
“…wildly funny, picaresque classic novel of the misdaventures of Sebastian Dangerfield, a young American ne’re-do-well….”
And this, from the fateful page 29:
“He drove his fist into Marion’s face [his wife]. She fell backward against the cupboard… In tattered underwear he stood at the nursery door. He kicked his foot through and tore off the lock to open it. Took the child’s pillow from und...more
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James Patrick Donleavy is an Irish American author, born to Irish immigrants. He served in the U.S. Navy during World War II after which he moved to Ireland. In 1946 he began studies at Trinity College, Dublin, but left before taking a degree. He was first published in the Dublin literary periodical, Envoy.
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