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Crito (BCP Greek Texts)

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Plato's Socrates, in prison and being urged to flee execution, raises in acute form, and for the first time in European thought, a central question: is it right to disobey the state? Socrates' controversial answer in "Crito" has generated much contemporary literature, but no English commentary of the Greek text for seventy-five years. This new edition aims to provide an up ...more
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Published July 15th 2010 by Duckworth Publishers (first published -360)
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Manny
- Socrates? I'm terribly sorry to be disturbing you shortly before your impending execution, but--

- And who are you?

- My name is Manny. I'm a visitor from the future. I--

- Again. It's been one visitor after another this evening. First my extremely well-meaning friend Crito trying to save me, and then R. Daneel Olivaw from the Trantorian Empire trying to save me, and then two fictitious characters from Ultima Thule who for some reason also thought they would try to save me, and now you. Well. Wha
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Steve
Sep 07, 2013 Steve rated it it was amazing
Shelves: greek, philosophy
This is the sequel to Plato's Apology . Socrates has been condemned to death, but for religious reasons his execution has been postponed for a few weeks. Crito, one of his friends, has smuggled himself into Socrates' cell late at night and offers to bribe all the necessary persons to get him out of his cell, out of Athens, to a safe place in Thessaly.

As riveting as the Apology is, I find Crito to be extraordinarily moving. Plato places an eloquence and emotive power in Crito's mouth that c
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Viji Sarath (Bookish endeavors)
Truly a marvel.!!

My first reading of Plato.. And of Socrates.. I feel like a kid,excited at having got the book I've always wanted to have,humbled by the great mind.. The text I read,translation though it was,was beautiful in its style,use of words and the unquestionable logic of the master. Does it look like I'm keeping Socrates on a pedestal.? Well.. I truly am..

I was struck by the beauty of the logic,the way he tackles Crito's arguments.. it must feel strange when I say that I was more influ
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Ken Moten
I'm reading this as a part of The Trial and Death of Socrates as reprinted in the Classics of Western Philosophy. Translated by G.M.A. Grube.

This book is sort of like The Republic-lite. It is a towering example of political philosophy though it is short and somewhat controversial. This book has the titular character coming to bust Socrates out of prison. He soon discovers that at this point Socrates does not plan on leaving but is intent on validating himself by doing whatever the state commands
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tyranus
Nov 09, 2015 tyranus rated it liked it
70 yıllık ömrünün büyük kısmını insanlara sorular sorup düşünmelerini, bildiklerini sorgulamayı, gerçekleri kendilerinin düşünüp bulmalarını öğretmeye çalışan Sokrates, şimşekleri üzerine çeker ve atina devleti tarafından kurulu düzeni bozmakla suçlanır. Dönemin siyasal koşullarının getirdiği tahammülsüzlükle, "devletin tanrılarını(!) inkar etmek, yeni tanrılar türetmek, gençlerin ahlakını bozmak" gibi sudan sebeplerle ölüme mahkum edilir. Onun suçsuzluğuna inanan öğrencileri Sokrates'i hapishan ...more
Bruce
Nov 29, 2010 Bruce rated it really liked it
Socrates, having been sentenced to death, has been in prison for about a month, and his sentence will be carried out in the next day or so unless he agrees to escape. His friend Crito has come to him to urge him to do so. He argues that people in Athens expect Socrates to flee into exile rather than acquiesce to his execution, that his friends have adequate money to bribe those necessary to facilitate his escape, that the reputations of his friends will suffer if he does not agree, that his sons ...more
Brad Lyerla
Oct 27, 2015 Brad Lyerla rated it really liked it
CRITO is Plato’s short dialogue recreating Socrates’ conversation with Crito on the eve of Socrate’s death. Crito and others have arranged for Socrates to escape from prison and thereby avoid his sentence to die by drinking hemlock. But Socrates is not persuaded and convinces Crito that it is unprincipled not to obey the rule of law even when one believes the outcome in a particular case is unjust. And not only then, but even when the majority believes the outcome is unjust because the will of t ...more
Pink
Sep 13, 2015 Pink rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Brilliant! Socrates has been condemned to death and what of it? I loved how Plato wrote this text as a conversation between Socrates and Crito. Should Socrates stay and accept the fate of his beloved city, or should he accept his friend's help and run from those who judged him wrongly? What would it mean to abandon his home and live in exile, after declaring he'd prefer death to this outcome? Could Socrates place himself above judgement, just because he didn't agree with the outcome? If he were ...more
Genni
Feb 08, 2015 Genni rated it really liked it
Again, We don't read Plato for answers. We read him to ask the right questions.

The question arising as Socrates sits in prison, condemned to die, is, "Do I surrender to democracy's judgement and die willingly? Or do I fight the ruling, declaring myself right, and fight for my life?" Ok. That is two questions. Socrates generally comes to the conclusion that he has reaped the benefits of living in a democracy his entire life. Now that it is against him, how can he reject the ruling? I think it is
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Laertes
Aug 28, 2015 Laertes rated it it was amazing
While I agree with his (likely Socrates own ideas, being an early dialogue) points about how escaping Athens would go against his own principles, I find his ideas about the State as some sort of divine being to be quite disagreeable.
He states that one must worship and love the state, and obey the laws even if you are convicted unjustly; one could say 'but Socrates, I disagree with this conviction!' or 'these laws are unfair!'. His reply would be that one could easily leave the city or persuade
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Will
Dec 02, 2014 Will rated it liked it
Shelves: philosophy
So here in the dialog often thought of as the companion to the Apology, we have a very different Socrates. Where the Apology shows him testing the boundaries and ideals of a man's relationship with community/state/law, the Crito brings an absolutist Socrates to the conversation. Here the ideas of citizenship are examined...entirely from the viewpoint of the state, and the individual's interests are entirely subjugated to the desires of the state. Where in Apology we see a man claiming relief aga ...more
Laura Verret
So, Socrates is in prison and Crito comes and asks him to leave. They have a discussion over the justness of him escaping from his country's law, and Socrates wins. The one thing that I found interesting was that in the beginning he said that what the majority of the people thought was not of any import - only what the good people thought. Then half-way through the book he said that it would be wrong of him to escape from prison because it was the will of the Athenians that he should be there. I ...more
Daniel
Jun 22, 2015 Daniel rated it really liked it
Having been sentenced to death, Crito approaches Socrates with a plan to have him escape from prison. Several sympathetic friends were ready to assist him by paying off the guard. Among the arguments Crito puts forth to Socrates to go along with the plan are that not rescuing him would make Crito look bad, as someone who valued money more than his friends. Socrates would also be playing straight into the hands of those unjustly plotting against him, and that his children would become orphans wit ...more
M.G. Bianco
Apr 07, 2014 M.G. Bianco rated it it was amazing
This text is a great and necessary follow-up to reading The Apology. In The Apology, Socrates has been sentenced to death. In Crito, his execution has been delayed for 30 days, and Socrates' friend, Crito, has come to urge him to escape into exile. What ensues is a discussion between Socrates and Crito as to whether such an action would be just and virtuous.

This particular dialog, above the others I have read, is especially moving because you know what is on the line: Socrates' death. You know
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Raúl
Jan 11, 2016 Raúl rated it really liked it
Pequeño y precioso diálogo, cargado de dramatismo por estar escenificado en prisión, cuando Sócrates está esperando la llegada del barco de Delos, que significará el momento de su muerte por cicuta. Critón intenta convencer al maestro de que se deje ayudar a escapar, porque ¿qué dirá la gente de ellos si se enteran de que, pudiendo ayudar a Sócrates, no hacen nada por evitar su muerte? Sócrates decide entonces someter esto a examen racional, tal y como hizo siempre respecto a cualquier otra temá ...more
Drianne
Feb 19, 2012 Drianne rated it really liked it
N.B. I actually read Geoffrey Steadman's beta edition of his commentary, which is forthcoming. I'll edit this to attach to the proper edition when it gets an ISBN.

First, the Crito itself: I enjoyed it more than I knew I would. It's short, and the philosophical issue (is it just for Socrates to flee from prison, or is it ethically incumbent upon him to stay and suffer the death penalty, when he has been unjustly convicted) easily graspable. The narrative was not quite as developed as some of Plat
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Megan
Nov 18, 2011 Megan rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: school
I loved the use of rhetorical questioning in this dialogue - it brought the art of argument to a whole new level for me. It made sense, because if you cannot refute the question, you cannot refute the final point.
Socrates (through Plato's writing; I'm not sure which actual person to come up with this ideal) expresses the importance of having a value system: having a definite opinion of something regardless of the circumstance. He justified his decision not to escape from jail because he stated b
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David Sarkies
Jun 25, 2014 David Sarkies rated it really liked it
Recommends it for: Political Scientists
Recommended to David by: David Hester
Shelves: politics
The Socratic response to government
7 September 2012

This dialogue takes place on the day before Socrate's execution in his cell between Socrates and his friend Crito. This dialogue is about another age old arguments: whether two wrongs go together to make a right. It is Socrates' position that they do not. One of the traditions of Athens was that political prisoners are given the opportunity to escape and live in exile, and even if a price were to be put on their head, the nature of Greek politi
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Azzageddi
Feb 28, 2012 Azzageddi rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: greek
This is my least favorite of the few Socratic dialogues of Plato that I've read thus far. Firstly, because the approach Socrates took was more demagogic than dialectic; the character of Crito served as little more than someone for Socrates to talk at, as opposed to other dialogues, where Socrates wonderfully dissects the inconsistencies on their beliefs.

So I felt it was a weakly argued point he was trying to make. Secondly, and less importantly, I don't wholly agree with his conclusion. I unders
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Maan Kawas
Dec 05, 2013 Maan Kawas rated it it was amazing
A great dialogue by the master Plato! The main point in this beautiful conversation between Socrates and Crito (in Socrates’ prison cell) is about justice vs. injustice, and what is the best way to respond to injustice – according to him one should not meet injustice with injustice. It is amazing how Socrates refuses Crito’s suggestion and help to get him escape from the prison. I particularly liked Socrates’ calm attitude toward his death sentence as well as the approaching end; he was even sle ...more
Abdul-mohsen Al-Qasabi
Sep 24, 2014 Abdul-mohsen Al-Qasabi rated it really liked it
What an epic ending of a truly virtuous man!

Here it's shown how the man that questioned the justification of authority and proclamations stayed consistent with his views about the necessity of social consent by facing his death sentence boldly!

Social consent is indeed of huge importance, for it is what assures -for example- the ability of families to raise up and educate new members of society fairly well!
Jackson Cyril
Crito approaches Socrates in prison and tries to convince him to escape, noting that the charges against him are false. But Socrates rebuffs him claiming that how can he, one who has enjoyed the benefits of Athens for so long and had no problems with any of its other laws, now simply reject its decision now that his life is in peril. Not as stirring as the Apology, it does tackle some important questions and as always Socrates's unmatched ability of logical deduction and questioning is on full d ...more
Suki
Jan 06, 2016 Suki rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 2016-suki-reads
I'm gaining an understanding of Socratic questioning now. For a while I've heard the phrase and sort of known what it meant. Now I have examples (very good for a visual person). I followed the logic! I am glad the questions were not put to me on the spot. I would have had a melt down.

Next up: The Clouds (Aristophanes) which looks like a play. Oh boy.
May
This is the first part of the series in which Socrates talks about why he’d rather die than face exile. You get the sense that virtue and justice mean something very specific relative to their warped meanings today. Virtue truly means to be a lover of truth and to uphold oneself with great character. (I should probably have a further discussion with someone about what exactly is meant by this definition).

Justice – it appears from the text – seems to be simply an agreement with the state made by
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Beluosus
Apr 14, 2014 Beluosus rated it really liked it
Τὸν τοῦ Πλάτωνος Κρίτωνα ἀνέγνων · τῷ μὲν λόγῳ ἥσθην, διαφωνῶ δὲ τῇ τοῦ Σωκράτους γνώμῃ. ἐὰν νόμος τις ᾖ ἀδικός, ὅστις πειθόμενος ἀδικεῖ. χρὴ ἡμᾶς τῇ ἀδικίᾳ ἐναντιοῦσθαι, οὔθ' ἡσύχως εἴκειν.
Sara
Mar 05, 2015 Sara rated it it was amazing
Well I disagree with small points, the broad strokes are pretty convicting. I am particularly excited to read Thomas Aquinas in a few months and compare him to some of the things Socrates said here.
Brandt
Jul 14, 2014 Brandt rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Worthy of a five star rating. The conversation between Socrates and Crito is a timeless one. This story can easily be changed to fit almost all ethical situations we are faced with daily. I think that it is very important to read at least one book of Plato's from each of the different writing periods, and preferably this book would be the culmination of a reading such as follows: Ion, Protagoras, Symposium, Phaedrus, Apology, and then ending with Crito. By using these few select dialogues you ca ...more
بسام عبد العزيز
سقراط (أم هو أفلاطون؟) ضد الثورة!
التساؤل الذي تثيره أحداث المحاورة هو : لو كان المجتمع ظالما فهل يحق للفرد الخروج عليه؟

تساؤل دائم و مستمر.. اختلفت فيه الآراء.. فماذا فعل سقراط؟
سقراط قرر أنه فرد وسط المجتمع و هذا معناه أنه ضمنيا رضى بالعيش تحت ظل القوانين الموجودة في المجتمع.. فحتي لو حدث و تمت إساءة استغلال تلك القوانين ووقع ضرر عليه بسببها .. فلا حق له الخروج على تلك القوانين.. لابد له من الرضوخ و الطاعة..
أما لو كانت تلك القوانين لا تعجبه فكان من الأولى له أن يترك هذا المجتمع من البداية و يذهب
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Addie
Oct 10, 2014 Addie rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: philosophy
Questo è il libro che mi ha convinta ad apprezzare finalmente Socrate. Sarà perchè questa volta non ci sono elementi misogini buttati lì a caso (come invece nell'Apologia), sarà perchè ora le ragioni per cui Socrate si è lasciato morire mi sono chiare, sarà perchè ho finalmente capito cosa è l'intellettualismo etico.
Il dramma (ai nostri occhi) di Socrate sta in una vita in cui la critica e l'obbedienza allo Stato coesistono: Socrate ama la sua Atene a tal punto che non può non obbedire alle sue
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Christopher
Jan 10, 2009 Christopher rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: whoever has read Plato's Apology
This is the necessary (and brief) follow-up to the Apology. I find the arguments of Socrates to be less convincing here than in the Apology.
It might be perhaps a culture perspective on the parent/child relation that weakness his obedience to the law argument in my eyes. I need to think about that more.
I did however feel a certain resonance with the ending book of Job, and God's questioning of Job.
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Plato is a Classical Greek philosopher, mathematician, student of Socrates, writer of philosophical dialogues, and founder of the Academy in Athens, the first institution of higher learning in the Western world. Along with his mentor, Socrates, and his student, Aristotle, Plato helped to lay the foundations of Western philosophy and science.

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“And will life be worth having, if that higher part of man be destroyed, which is improved by justice and depraved by injustice?” 2 likes
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