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The Message in the Bottle: How Queer Man Is, How Queer Language Is, and What One Has to Do with the Other

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In Message in the Bottle, Walker Percy offers insights on such varied yet interconnected subjects as symbolic reasoning, the origins of mankind, Helen Keller, Semioticism, and the incredible Delta Factor. Confronting difficult philosophical questions with a novelist's eye, Percy rewards us again and again with his keen insights into the way that language possesses all of u ...more
Paperback, 352 pages
Published April 1st 2000 by Picador (first published 1975)
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Ian Mullet
Nov 25, 2007 Ian Mullet rated it it was amazing
Recommends it for: fans of walker percy novels
despite the upchuck-inducing cover of the edition that comes up on goodreads, this is a good book, indeed a good read.

while he's more famous for his novels, i enjoy his essays more. in his novels he always strains for opportunities to wax philosophical and in his essays he finally has free reign to just go for it. "the delta factor" and "man on a train" stand out in my memory.

"the delta factor" opens with six pages of questions, mostly about the existential conundrum that we are sad when we sho
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Leif
Oct 16, 2011 Leif rated it really liked it
Shelves: re-read
I recommend reading "Lost in the Cosmos" before this one. This is a collection of essays dealing with language and what our use of symbols and signs tells us about our essential humanity. If you are not a Christian, you should keep in mind that Percy is (although NOT a fundamentalist, young-earther; in fact, he is equally critical of fundamentalists on both sides of the God question), and it informs every argument he makes. If you know that up front, it should not stop you from enjoying and ...more
Dan
Mar 26, 2016 Dan rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
An interesting and-but dense book that reads very much like it was written—put together over a long period of time, without much regard for the way it would read all at once.

Most readers could probably just skip to Lost in the Cosmos and The Moviegoer, which share not only ideas but fragments of scenes and scenarios with the essays in this book. But Percy fans should, at a minimum, read "The Loss of the Creature," "The Message in the Bottle," and "Symbol as Hermeneutic in Existentialism" for lon
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Cynda
Percy attempts to define language, define language processing and more. I particularly enjoyed "The Delta Factor," a re-telling of language triangles work. Percy turns the commonplace communication/rhetorical triangle on its head. Perhaps Helen Keller the listener received Anne Sullivan's message of "water" and understood the subject of water as liquid. Or maybe Keller the listener heard both water and liquid as messenger/communicator with Sullivan being outside the triangle. Sullivan would then ...more
Ilze
May 20, 2011 Ilze rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Committed linguists
It's a miracle I made it - yes, I actually READ EVERY PAGE - all the way to the end. But then, I might've known there's trouble when I realized that the first chapter consists almost in its entirety of questions ... only to discover the origin of it all, Walker Percy had read about Helen Keller's acquisition of language and this led him to ask questions. I'm not sure how many times he repeats for us how Keller suddenly realized that "water" = "water" spelt on her hand when her tutor let the ...more
P
Jul 11, 2016 P rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Well, something you don’t see every day: a Catholic Peircean. Percy would have, I think, greatly benefited from reading Merleau-Ponty (just as the latter would have benefited from reading Peirce), as the great phenomenologist of embodied perception, intersubjective linguistic experience, and insistence on the value of empiricism. Many of the questions here would have dissolved or been redirected. Still, Merleau-Ponty’s dyadicism is insufficient, and here the triadic semiotics of Peirce and Percy ...more
Sarah Duggan
Jan 04, 2015 Sarah Duggan rated it liked it
Shelves: catholic-lit
Full disclosure: I skimmed sections because I can only handle so much linguistic theory. There are some good Percy witticisms in here, including ideas that would become the plots of his novels The Last Gentleman and Love In the Ruins. The snarky observations about the state of Catholic literature in the modern world were my favorite. If you like his novels, this is like the special features commentary track to his stories.
Rebecca
Jan 04, 2016 Rebecca rated it it was amazing
Interesting essays on language, from a perspective inspired by C. S. Pierce.
booklady
Jul 20, 2009 booklady marked it as to-read
Recommended to booklady by: Robert Moynihan
Robert Moynihan, reporting from Rome, "Inside the Vatican Magazine" Newsflash, Letter from Rome, #22: 'I studied the works of Walker Percy, the American Catholic novelist, when I was in college, at Harvard. I went to meet Percy in 1977. His most important book is a collection of philosophical essays entitled The Message in the Bottle.

The entire goal of his writing was to show how the historical events of Christian history constituted a "message" which brought life to people who were in the posi
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Becky
Jul 09, 2011 Becky rated it it was ok
Shelves: unfinished
Didn't end up finishing this! Many of the essays were very enjoyable and weave together linguistics, existentialism, theology, anthropology, and literary criticism. The book as a whole is something of a love letter to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, and the author has interesting things to say about the extent to which we can say meaningful things about the world, explain scientific behavior in a world of cultural relativity, and whether "scientific" solutions to problems actually make people happy. ...more
Lowry
Aug 28, 2007 Lowry rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: anyone who cares about language
(See my review of The Moviegoer.) In this book you will find, in discursive form, the ideas that all of Percy's novels are about. Which is not to say that they are dry or uninviting here; it's fascinating to see how they play out in a different genre of writing. Percy was essentially a philosopher of language, a student of how it is that we are able (or not) to make a meaning jump the gap from one human mind to another. If that interests you, and it is or should be a mighty interesting subject ...more
Kevin Estabrook
Jan 23, 2014 Kevin Estabrook rated it liked it
I enjoyed several of these essays. Many are sublime at points. Though some were more technical than i had interest in. Having only read "Lost in the Cosmos" (in my top 3 favorite books) and "Love in the Ruins" (enjoyable), perhaps i will return to these essays after reading more of Percy's fiction.
Camille
Dec 11, 2008 Camille rated it liked it
language theory and kind of ...antisemiotics? A bit over my head and out of date, and would have been more influential if he'd been listened to then. Now, kind of a curiosity for crystallizing at a tangent ideas that we've come to in a roundabout way (if you like to keep super close track of what Chomsky is or has been or may well be up to, this is may be more interesting to you.)
Tara
Nov 24, 2012 Tara rated it liked it
There are some true gems in this book. Honest to God though, some of the analogies he employs are absolutely beyond me. Maybe one day I will understand the title essay of the book, but at the moment the castaway scenario seems just a mess of a metaphor. And now I am running, simply racing even, back to my dear Owen Barfield to regain clarity.
Jon Trott
Nov 07, 2007 Jon Trott rated it liked it
Recommends it for: Folks Smarter than Me
Yes, this book is about semiotics and all sorts of really cool stuff that makes your brain go "WoooOOOOO!" Trouble for me was that my brain, after a while, went "FZZzzzzzt" -- obviously not well enough wired to take in all that Percy talks about here. (For a one chapter rendition of the same stuff, see the chapter on semiotics in his "Lost in the Cosmos.")
Brett
Aug 19, 2013 Brett rated it it was ok
I love Walker Percy. But this was too dry and too repetitive to keep my interest at all. It asks some interesting questions, but never really answers them, but just repeats the same objections to science's current answers to the questions over an over.
Seth Holler
Jul 05, 2012 Seth Holler rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Read mostly in Sept 2011, but the final chapter - the one for which he says, in the first chapter, there probably is no audience, on 7-5-12. At that time I also reread my notes from each chapter and revised my rating from 4 to 5 stars.
Craig
Jul 02, 2011 Craig rated it liked it
Some of it is interesting; but the author is a little 'out there,' and the chapters are hard to follow as they are a series of independent articles that don't really mesh together in a book very well. Some of the insights are true gems, but hard to find.
Richard
Dec 26, 2014 Richard rated it really liked it
Shelves: project-2014


The subtitle has nothing to do with lgbtq, etc.

This book breaks no new ground. It does provide, as overview, starting points for those wanting to think about being, language, consciousness, reality, "the" mind, etc.

Read this book, etc.

Jennings Peeler
Dec 26, 2014 Jennings Peeler rated it really liked it
Shelves: project_2014


The subtitle has nothing to do with lgbtq, etc.

This book breaks no new ground. It does provide, as overview, starting points for those wanting to think about being, language, consciousness, reality, "the" mind, etc.

Read this book, etc.

Jane
Apr 18, 2016 Jane added it
I skimmed about half of this book. It's not an easy read, and these days I don't have the mental energy needed.
Nick
Mar 18, 2008 Nick rated it it was amazing
Get ready for your brain to hurt - and then to feel totally enlightened about how language effects us in ways that separate us from other animals.
Donna
Jul 21, 2009 Donna rated it it was amazing
Shelves: walker-percy
One of my very favorite collections of essays. "The Delta Factor" can bring me to tears most any time. It's the most poignant rendering of the human condition I have ever read.
Adam Ross
Feb 24, 2010 Adam Ross rated it really liked it
I'm re-reading this for a piece I'm writing for threeguysonebook.com and can't express what a pleasure it is to hear Percy's voice again.
Elise
Nov 04, 2010 Elise rated it liked it
I didn't feel the need to read this whole book. It is incredibly insightful, and well-written, but a bit too technical at times. The first essay is one of my all-time favorites!
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Andrew Kooy
I haven't read it yet but it is on my ever dwindling to-read list.
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Walker Percy (1916–1990) was one of the most prominent American writers of the twentieth century. Born in Birmingham, Alabama, he was the oldest of three brothers in an established Southern family that contained both a Civil War hero and a US senator. Acclaimed for his poetic style and moving depictions of the alienation of modern American culture, Percy was the bestselling author of six fiction ...more
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