Der Drachenbeinthron (Das Geheimnis der Großen Schwerter, #1)
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Der Drachenbeinthron (Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn #1)

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Der betagte König Johan liegt im Sterben, und um die Thronfolge entbrennt ein hinterhältiger Kampf unter seinen Söhnen Elias und Josuah. Der Küchenjunge Simon,wegen seiner Zerstreutheit auch Mondkalb genannt, gerät mitten in die Auseinandersetzungen um die Herrschaft über Osten Ard.
Hardcover, 975 pages
Published 2010 by Klett-Cotta (first published 1988)
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Adam Oleksa
The opening to what is easily the best fantasy series I've ever read. Williams' Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn remains, IMHO, one of the most underread and underappreciated series out there. I suspect that the length of the novels scares some people off; Dragonbone Chair is the shortest, and it's still around 700 pages. The series as a whole incorporates most classical fantasy elements: an epic quest, dark sorcery, an unlikely hero, etc., but what makes it unforgettable for me is one main thing.

Will...more
Carol. [All cynic, all the time]
A classic in the fantasy field, this is best suited for readers looking for the traditional orphan-identity quest. While I enjoyed it overall, I was able to set the book down and walk away, coming and going from the story until Simon reached the woods. I consider it a bad sign when I'm able to set a book down--my favorites have me locked into reading position until I reach the end page. Eventually it picked up and reeled me in, but there was skimming involved.

A combination coming-of-age and cas...more
Dirk Grobbelaar
“He who is certain he knows the ending of things when he is only beginning them is either extremely wise or extremely foolish; no matter which is true, he is certainly an unhappy man, for he has put a knife in the heart of wonder.”
- Qanuc Proverb

The Dragonbone Chair is chock and block full of wonder. If you have the patience to master this piece of work (it is incredibly dense and filled with first class world building and heaps of lore) you'll find it an extremely rewarding experience. It is a...more
Kat  Hooper
This review refers to the trilogy.
Tad Williams’ Memory, Sorrow, & Thorn trilogy was one of the first fantasy series I ever read and it's still one of my favorites.

The writing style is very pleasant and the pace is slow enough to be savored, but characters actually accomplish things by the end of each book (you know what I mean). The characters are well-developed and loveable, but not annoyingly perfect. This is a classic epic fantasy plot: Simon the kitchen boy saves the world. But please do...more
Jonathan

As far as fantasy goes I believe it is possible to be both derivative (at least in some sense) and still create a decent story. Take The Eye of the World, The Name of the Wind, Theft of Swords or even The Lord of the Rings. Yes The Lord of the Rings is itself derived from the classic Norse mythologies and even the other mythologies of, say, the Celtic people. Fantasy is in many ways a genre composed of derivation - it derives its ideas and imagined civilisations from reality. Yet The Dragonbone...more
Mary
Oct 30, 2007 Mary rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: fantasy & adventure fans
Shelves: fantasy
I have to be honest, I love Tad Williams. A lot of my friends aren't fans of his because he really does take ages and ages to get to the point. He's very big on character development, which is basically all I read books for. I not only forgive three hundred pages of character introduction and exposition and plot set-up, I gleefully embrace it.

This book isn't any different from others of his that I've read in that respect, and in all others, it's a classic fantasy adventure. Orphan boy tapped for...more
Lori
I love this series. I hadn't thought of it in a little while, but speaking about books today with a friend brought it to mind and I thought, "I haven't read that this year...I should." The four LARGE volumes are quite an investment, both in money and in time, (get it from the library, or let me know and you can borrow mine when I'm done) but it's worth it in the end. I know that sci-fi/fantasy are seriously formulaic, and these are not that different...young boy, thrown into circumstances beyond...more
Lorena
OK, here's the deal. I've met this author at a convention and he seemed a nice enough fellow; and plenty of other people have read this book and given it four or five stars. But I am an unusually picky reader.

I like high fantasy. I could read Tolkien over and over again, love Martin, and have put away my fair share of Eddings, Jordan, and Brooks. But I spent the first 100 or so pages of this thinking I would have liked this book a lot more if I were (a) still fifteen and (b) a boy.

I made it th...more
BookBandit
I came into this book a little forewarned by the good readers here at Goodreads: "that this book is a SLOW buildup".

0-20%, slow. 20-30%, something could happen, are we leaving yet? 30-35%, is this it? No, false start. 35-45% OK, we left the castle, something has to happen right? 45%-end: Bam! Fires, dragons, magic swords, trolls, elves, demons, mountains, crossing the map, wolves (good and bad), bad dreams/good dreams, death, sieges, magical storms, ships.......

The slow build-up eventually drop...more
Throop
This is one of my all-time favorite series and I reread it almost every year. That being said, I can understand why many people have given it negative reviews. There are two things that are cited most often 1) the slow start and 2)that there is nothing new (no new magic system, cultures are copies of Earth cultures, main character follows scullion to hero story, etc.), and I want to briefly address both those concerns before giving my final recommendation.

Whenever I recommend this series to som...more
Dennis Meier
Struggling a bit in Chapter 5 as the protagonist (Simon) observes things and reveals little disconnected snippets of history that (I assume) play a role in the story I hope is about to begin. (I am becoming a little tired of the comings and goings of Simon.)

I am hoping for the best. Tolkien ruined most other fantasy stories for me decades ago.

* * * *

After seven chapters, I gave up hope that an actual story would break out and something interesting will happen--or at least something more intere...more
Julie
I really enjoyed this book once I concentrated on it. Williams isn't really breaking any new ground in fantasy with it, but it's well-written and well-imagined.
Allison
Out of the older tradition of fantasy writing, this one takes its time and builds slowly, carefully, meticulously, until we have a world and conflict that feels real and surprising in the present with the depth that a long history provides. Really good stuff if you're patient enough to let it simmer.

I will admit to being bored at times, and frustrated with Simon's ignorance and naivete, especially in this first book. What I would consider to be the introduction takes about 200 pages. Then it's...more
Shivesh
Nov 06, 2009 Shivesh rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: castle scullions, trolls, brutal warriors
Shelves: fantastical
About 15 years ago, when I was a wan, neurotic preteen wandering in the suburban wasteland of Southern California, my daily afterschool routine would lead me to the local library: a smallish building tucked under the overhanging boughs of a massive oak, it had a more visible neighbor in the even tinier city hall. In my later life, I would grow to realize that the entire complex, from library to city hall to the grocery store and mom-and-pop joints, were one of the last remnants of the "old towne...more
Erica
Dear Tad Williams,

I cannot thank you enough for writing a book...well, set of books...that I can read as a full-on grown-up and still enjoy as much as I did when I was an angsty teenager.

It has hurt to find so many of my favorite when-I-was-young reads (looking at you, Shannara and DragonLance) aren't actually good at all and that I must adore them from afar with only sentimentality stoking the fires of young love.

Thank you for not adding to that hurt. I appreciate the effort you put into this s...more
Mike (the Paladin)
A group of heroes...Elven "like" folk...magic...swords...magic swords....dungeons...lost castle...all the ingredients are here. I like it and liked it. Maybe I'm easy, but I'm a sucker for heroics.
Gemma Alexander
More than one person recommended this book to me with the assertion that it was as good as Tolkien. So of course this influenced my reading, and as I read, I evaluated each chapter against Tolkien. It was easy to do because I recognized so many of the same elements; many of them were the same ones Tolkien himself took from the Scandinavian mythology. There was a lot of T.H. White in there,too. I kept score in my head, tallying up fantasy elements in two columns. There was Merlin/Gandalf/Morgenes...more
Mark
Well, that was interesting. The Dragonbone Chair is a strong beginning to a fantasy story that is different than a lot of what you will find today. It is also a very traditional fantasy story, featuring tropes that are well beaten into the ground by now but were perhaps a bit less so in the late 1980s, when this book first came into being.

The generational difference is what I found so fascinating. I like many books that I've read in recent years in the genre, but particularly within the realm of...more
Stephen
3.0 stars. It has been awhile since I read this and it is on my list of books to re-read so this review may change in the future. I remember thinking that the book was well written, epic fantasy that had some really interesting characters and back story. I also remember that the book seemed to drag and was much longer than the story needed. Thus, I liked it but I thought it could have been better plotted.
Crperry13
Dec 17, 2010 Crperry13 rated it 1 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Patient people who don't care about dialog.
My introduction to Tad Williams was the Otherland quartet, which rank among the very best books I ever read. Otherland had strong characters, an engaging plot, and a fast-paced movielike quality about it. I expected the same from other Williams works, so I picked up The Dragonbone Chair for some summer vacation reading.

And I was incredibly disappointed. The utter lack of engaging dialog and prevalence of weak, forgettable characters ruins this book. I found myself flipping past 2-3 pages at a ti...more
Mike
The Dragonbone Chair is the first book in Tad Williams’ Memory, Sorrow and Thorn series and one of the better traditional epic fantasies that’s out there. The novel follows the young castle scamp Simon an apparently unassuming and unimportant young man who gets drawn into a dire events far beyond his meager station. Apprenticed to the castle doctor Simon spends most of his days dreaming of being a hero but the machinations of an ancient evil soon creep into his own and Simon soon finds himself o...more
Ayman Teaman
Jul 28, 2014 Ayman Teaman rated it 1 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: No one
Recommended to Ayman by: A friend...
Shelves: gave-up-on
**Summary**
Rating: 1.0
I rarely drop books; but I had to drop this one.
Pretentious storytelling using a hacked mesh of cliches through an overextended tale.

Why did I pick this book?
I asked a friend of mine for recommendations, and he pointed me to this book.

Overall reading experience
The book did not manage to grip me at all in the 176 pages I spent reading it, which was more excruciating than I ever remember while reading any type of book. And to think that I thought Robert Jordan was slow! He i...more
Lisa (Harmonybites)
Jul 16, 2010 Lisa (Harmonybites) rated it 3 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Those Who Can't Get Enough of Wordy Tolkien Clones
Recommended to Lisa (Harmonybites) by: The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Ultimate Reading List
This is highly thought of by fantasy authors. Tamora Pierce rates it five stars on GoodReads and this was the series that inspired George RR Martin to try his hand at epic fantasy.

This first volume of Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn consists of 766 pages of such tiny print I feared for my eyesight. It's the kind of book with maps up front and an appendix and glossary in the back, written in omniscient point of view, populated with elves, giants, dragons and trolls, and studded with songs and poems. I...more
Joshua Bryant
Well, I tried to write this as positives and negatives, but the two were too intermingled to be separated.

Style:
On the whole, good writing, with some excusable mistakes and awkwardness (the one unexcusable writing mistake he does is have his main character use the word "mooncalf" two or three times every time he talks to himself. So sick of that word). He sounds like Tolkien, except a bit easier to digest. His descriptions really work usually, and sometimes strike me with their poetry. His songs...more
Rob
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Connie Jasperson
Tad Williams' masterpiece, the Dragon Bone Chair is the first book in the epic fantasy series, Memory, Sorrow and Thorn. I first read this book when it came out in 1988 and had to re-read it again immediately upon finishing it. This book and indeed the whole series had a profound impact on my own style of writing.

Just like the best and most enduring of love affairs, The Dragon Bone Chair begins a bit slowly, as the author establishes the background to the tale. However, once you are into it, thi...more
Luca Lesi
"Eccomi qui" gridò allora. Con un sibilo vibrò la magica Thorn contro l'orrido occhio. "Sono ...Simon!".
Atmosfere che mi fanno proporre come brano musicale correlato , qualcosa tipo Poets of the fall
In questo bel libro fantasy ci sono tutti gli elementi e i valori tipici del genere : una quest, il male che vuole distruggere il mondo, diverse razze che si uniscono per combatterlo ma sono deboli e sparuti, draghi, cavalieri, troll, creature orriede e fantastiche, stregoni, re, regine, eroi, amic...more
Duchess
Out of all of Williams books that I have read this one has not been the best. It got off slow - which I was expecting, I remember the 1st of the Otherland series was excrutiatingly slow, in part due to the introductions to the stories of the vast amount of characters involved in the story.

The first of MS&T is also quite slow but not in the same way, unfortunately. Its just slow plain & simple. I don't find the characters (particularly Simon) nearly as interesting as the characters Willia...more
Linette
I am glad I finally got around to reading this book – it was long on my to-read pile.
I expected this to be a middle of the road, typical high fantasy novel. I was wrong. While it didn’t have a lot of new plot or character elements, it did have good ones. I was also suprised to recognize the roots of several of my favourite fantasy novels.
The first 150 pages were fairly lackadaisical, a meandering glimpse into the life of the young innocent main character – slow plot-wise. This book has a lot of...more
Epistomolus
What's the opposite of a spoiler? I'm going to give away, in vague terms, something that happens, but only because if I don't say this I will be considered a liar with bad taste in books.

Here's the deal. This trilogy was very satisfying, inventive, not derivative, a genuine pleasure to read.

However, I'm passing along the same advice that was given to me by the person who recommended it.

In this book there is a long passage fairly early on that involves the main character making a long journey und...more
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Tad Williams has held more jobs than any sane person should admit to—singing in a band, selling shoes, managing a financial institution, throwing newspapers, and designing military manuals, to name just a few. He also hosted a syndicated radio show for ten years, worked in theater and television production, taught both grade-school and college classes, and worked in multimedia for a major computer...more
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“He who is certain he knows the ending of things when he is only beginning them is either extremely wise or extremely foolish; no matter which is true, he is certainly an unhappy man, for he has put a knife in the heart of wonder.” 147 likes
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“Everyone was mad already, my lady,” Cadrach said with a strange, sorrowful smile. “It is merely that the times have brought it out in them.”
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