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Snow Falling on Cedars

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San Piedro Island, north of Puget Sound, is a place so isolated that no one who lives there can afford to make enemies. But in 1954 a local fisherman is found suspiciously drowned, and a Japanese American named Kabuo Miyamoto is charged with his murder. In the course of the ensuing trial, it becomes clear that what is at stake is more than a man's guilt. For on San Pedro,...more

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Published September 26th 1995 by Vintage (first published September 1st 1994)

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Feb 03, 2008 Madeline rated it 2 of 5 stars

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You know that guy who's at every party, the one who loves to hear himself talk and tells long-winded stories while the unlucky few who got caught in his gravitational pull nod politely and and start eyeing the exits?
Yeah. David Guterson is That Guy.
His book has a really intersesting subject: a few years after World War Two, a man of Japanese descent is accused of killing a white man on the small island community of San Piedro. The story follows the trial and breaks every now and then for flash...more

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Jul 14, 2007 Kristine rated it 1 of 5 stars Recommends it for: ppl who don't expect much

Shelves: unremarkable

When I found the word "cedars" 7 times on a 2 page spread, I shut down. The language is simple; maybe I'm supposed to perceive it as deep, mysterious, or simply written in a beautiful way, but I just found it dull. I was so tired of hearing about snow and cedars.

I think it had a trial in it, and a Japanese fisherman, and some discrimination; maybe it happened in an internment camp in Washington state or something. Or maybe the main character is investigating his father's involvement in a trial...more

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Dec 23, 2011 David Lentz rated it 4 of 5 stars

This PEN/Faulkner winning novel employs a narrative technique that distinguishes it. The tale is told from the points of view of the cast of characters. From their viewpoints the tale unfolds and we come to know the characters themselves more intimately because of their roles in relating the tale. Faulkner used this same approach in As I Lay Dying in which a group of travelers narrate their perspectives in the course of arduous travel. Chaucer likewise in The Canterbury Tales. The structure hing...more

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Jan 01, 2008 Mrs. rated it 3 of 5 stars

This book grabbed me and wouldn't let me go ... at first. I had a hard time putting it down and doing required things to love, like eating and sleeping. But near the end of the book, it began to lose me. Let me elaborate.

The book begins with a murder trial 10 years after World War II. On a tiny island in the United Sattes called San Piedro Sound, murder hasn't been as issue in many years. But a fisherman is dead, and foul play seems to be involved.

The suspest is a Japanese American who lost lan...more

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Oct 19, 2011 Marian rated it 4 of 5 stars

If there was a choice for 3 1/2 stars, that is what I would choose. To me this book deserved more than just three stars, yet four may not reflect my true feelings for the story. It was not until I was nearing 100 pages did I start enjoying the book. From there I loved it. Yet in the last 100 pages it lost momentum for me again.

The stongest message of the book were the consequences of loss forced upon individuals because of prejudice and hysteria. It's unfair. So unfair. We're all just trying the...more

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Sep 09, 2012 Lily Bart rated it 2 of 5 stars

Imagine what WEST SIDE STORY would have been like if Maria had married Chino like a good little girl. And Tony just sat around Pop's Soda Shop feeling sorry for himself. For ten years.

David Guterson has written a careful, elegant novel that pushes all the right liberal buttons (racial prejudice, evil military men, small town nastiness) but resolutely avoids any kind of heat, sexual, political, racial, or otherwise. The "oppressed" Japanese are sentimentalized to the point of being laughably unre...more

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Dec 02, 2012 Andrea rated it 2 of 5 stars

I recently heard about this book when I caught part of a radio interview with the author. He was being interviewed about a new book of his, and this one was brought up. Without really describing what the book was about, they made it sound like a wonderful book.

I would like to give this book more than two stars, but there was just too much content that I felt like I needed to skim or skip. The author went into too much detail with some of his flashback scenes, some of which I found completely unn...more

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Aug 20, 2007 michael spencer harmon rated it 3 of 5 stars

3.5 stars, though it says differently above. Worth reading, and owning, but perhaps I should have bought it on sale. Reviewing this book is taking me a good amount of time after finishing it. There are many things that I think ought to be said about the book, but I am unsure how they all fit together. In addition to this, I have to keep myself unaware of the award-status and the fact that my grandfather was a navyman and a sailor at heart.

The language is rough but rhythmic, representative of the...more 3.5 stars, though it says differently above. Worth reading, and owning, but perhaps I should have bought it on sale. Reviewing this book is taking me a good amount of time after finishing it. There are many things that I think ought to be said about the book, but I am unsure how they all fit together. In addition to this, I have to keep myself unaware of the award-status and the fact that my grandfather was a navyman and a sailor at heart.

The language is rough but rhythmic, representative of the typical life he seeks to represent. The vocabulary, though mostly good, does seem - especially in the first quarter - a little overdone, as if he is deliberately trying to use words instead of letting them flow out of his impetus. However, this does not drag the book.

What does drag the book, I feel, are three things in particular: two parts objective, one thing entirely subjective. First the subjective: I do not particularly enjoy courtroom novels (as might be seen from my star-reviews of Grisham). Next, the objective: I felt that at times it was languid, that parts were unnecessary, inefficient, unnecessary and eventually functioning as writer's slack in order to keep him thinking for future material. I found myself regularly checking to see how long I had to go for the chapter, and it was regularly 6-7 pages before finish. There were parts that seemed forced, as if he felt he had to come up with something brilliant when such was not required, and thus those times sounded inauthentic from him as an author. The third thing is, frankly, that there are nuances I believe are inconsistent with the background of whole groups of characters; for example, Buddhist tenets are misrepresented, even reversed once, to fit the mindset of the character in question. Perhaps this is on purpose, but if it was to be purported as fact, it was incorrect and took a little of the momentum away.

However, there is much about the book that keeps it sleek and enjoyable. One is the character development, that as far as I can tell is quite accurate for the personalities he chooses, and he maintains a sense of mystery about persons, so that one never fully knows any of them - this is accurate, realistic, and appreciable. Again the tone and flow is also well-representative of the setting which he seeks to portray. (Albeit, it is an entirely fictional setting; San Piedro Island cannot be visited, which affords him great leeway in character development as well. This last bit is perhaps a drawback to the full potential of his skill.) In addition to these things, his careful use of language, his ability to shift back and forth to be accurate about completely polar opposite opinions held by the characters, the flow of the storyline and graceful swtiching of the grammatical tenses (which was by far the strongest aspect of the writing - I found myself frequently engrossed in something and then all of sudden wondering how I got there, which means he lost me enough to stop paying attention to his writing ability altogether): all of these make this a book worth reading and keeping.

Being awarded the Faulkner is what drew me to it, but it may be the case as well that there was not as much fierce competition as of late. For all of these things, I gave it the rating above. A well-written novel, and worth enjoying. At the very least, being from a distinctly Northwestern voice, it made me crave blueberries and coffee! (less)

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Jan 29, 2009 Kristina King rated it 3 of 5 stars

According to Wikipedia, Snow Falling on Cedars was written by a teacher, taking 10 years to complete. The success of this book should give hope everywhere to teachers who want to be writers. But not just because it was a successful—it is also a good read.

David Guterson's novel was published in 1994, and became a huge hit, spawning a film version in 1999. The front cover gives away its superstar status, with a giant "The Award-Winning #1 Bestseller" badge.

"Oh great," I said to myself after examin...more According to Wikipedia, Snow Falling on Cedars was written by a teacher, taking 10 years to complete. The success of this book should give hope everywhere to teachers who want to be writers. But not just because it was a successful—it is also a good read.

David Guterson's novel was published in 1994, and became a huge hit, spawning a film version in 1999. The front cover gives away its superstar status, with a giant "The Award-Winning #1 Bestseller" badge.

"Oh great," I said to myself after examining the book. I came across this novel when Matt and Anna were simplifying their life and giving away books. I had heard of it, so I took it. But I had it for about almost a year before I read it. That "#1 Bestseller" just turns me away. I don't want people to think I read only bestsellers! I don't want want anyone to assume I'm a DaVinci Code fan! (Disclosure: I haven't read that novel, and I don't want to. Don't make me).

Anyway... this novel was a quick read, even though it's 460 pages long. Once I was into it, I didn't want to stop reading! The novel focuses on a murder trial in the '50s, when there was a lot of anti-Japanese racism resulting from WWII. Set on a Washington state island, the story revolves on the trial of Katsuo, who is accused of killing Carl over wanted strawberry farmland. It is easy for the citizens to get caught up in the racism, because they recall all of the Japanese citizens being interned in 1942, and many are war veterans. The internment of Japanese-Americans was a disgraceful action; this novel is a good reminder to us to not forget it. I don't think I heard about citizens being interned until I was in high school—which is pretty outrageous. Remember, kids, we study history lest we repeat it!

Which brings me to the relevance of this novel: it is really easy to read, sure, and very involving. Guterson has a gift for description: the strawberry fields, the snow, the mossy tree, each character's sex life, etc. But there is more to it than pretty words; it really makes you think about racial profiling and stereotyping. Well, Katsuo is a Kendo master, so he must been responsible for Carl's head wound.

I read that Snow Falling on Cedars is taught in many schools (but also banned in some). It is a great novel to teach for things like language, but more so for the potential discussions about racism. It's scary, because in the past seven years, America has painted all of its Arab-American citizens as potential terrorists. So, please read this novel as a reminder not to let these things happen!
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Mar 06, 2008 Suzanne rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: summer-read, historical-fiction

I really enjoyed the language and imagery the author created in this book. The title in itself sets the tone. I saw this years before the film and really felt the author conveyed what it was like living in the Pacific Northwest during the Second World War. I think the storyline is timeless. Forbidden love, societal rules...war. Recommended to those interested in period pieces with settings not often written about.

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Jan 28, 2013 Brian rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Set in the North of Washington State, near the border with Canada in 1954, Snow Falling On Cedars focuses on the trial of a Japanese American suspected of the murder of a local fisherman. In doing so it explores the experience of Japanese Americans during and after the Second World War and the complex of prejudice and resentment they encountered. If that sounds like a preachy book, then I should add that Guterson is not given to generalisations. He is interested in individuals, the moral dilemma...more Set in the North of Washington State, near the border with Canada in 1954, Snow Falling On Cedars focuses on the trial of a Japanese American suspected of the murder of a local fisherman. In doing so it explores the experience of Japanese Americans during and after the Second World War and the complex of prejudice and resentment they encountered. If that sounds like a preachy book, then I should add that Guterson is not given to generalisations. He is interested in individuals, the moral dilemmas they face and the struggles which accompany their decisions, whether for good or ill.

It's such a well-crafted book that it feels as though it were written in an earlier era when novels were built up slowly and solidly and there wasn't such a desperate need to grab the reader by the throat at the beginning of the book. Guterson's storytelling is slow and careful and his writing is characterised by an extraordinarily vivid evocation of place and character.

Here's how he describes the Counsel for the Defence

Nels Gudmundsson, the attorney who had been appointed to defend Kabuo Miyamoto, rose to cross-examine Art Moran with a slow and deliberate geriatric awkwardness, then roughly cleared the phlegm from his throat and hooked his thumbs behind his suspenders where they met their tiny black catch buttons. At seventy-nine, Nels was blind in his left eye and could distinguish only shades of light and darkness through its transient, shadowy pupil. The right, however, as if to make up for this deficiency, seemed preternaturally observant, even prescient, and as he plodded over the courtroom floorboards, advancing with a limp toward Art Moran, motes of light winked through it

And here's how he describes the beginning of the storm which provides the ever-present backdrop to the trial.

Outside the wind blew steadily from the north, driving snow against the courthouse. By noon three inches had settled on the town, a snow so ethereal it could hardly be said to have settled at all; instead it swirled like some icy fog, like the breath of ghosts, up and down Amity Harbor’s streets — powdery dust devils, frosted puffs of ivory cloud, spiraling tendrils of white smoke. By noon the smell of the sea was eviscerated, the sight of it mistily depleted, too; one’s field of vision narrowed in close, went blurry and snowbound, fuzzy and opaque, the sharp scent of frost burned in the nostrils of those who ventured out of doors. The snow flew up from their rubber boots as they struggled, heads down, toward Petersen’s Grocery. When they looked out into the whiteness of the world the wind flung it sharply at their narrowed eyes and foreshortened their view of everything.

Everything in this novel is clearly visualized and set out with a eye for salient detail. It's a compelling work of fiction that belongs, in my opinion, in the front rank of post-war American fiction.
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Oct 28, 2010 Elizabeth (Alaska) rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: 5-star-reads

In the opening pages we find Kabuo Miyamoto on trial for murder. The time period isn't immediately clear, but before long the reader learns the story takes place less than 10 years following WWII, and anti-Japanese feelings still run high. This is not a story of a murder trial, though that is the vehicle of the story, and it is not just a story of racial prejudice and hatred, though those are certainly important elements. We are lead, rather, with the background of race and prejudice, to examine...more

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Feb 18, 2008 Stephanie rated it 5 of 5 stars Recommends it for: anyone, Pacific Northwest lovers

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. Set on San Piedro in the Gulf Islands, it’s a trial novel with brilliant metaphors for surviving love, loss, and racism, while maintaining suspense until the last three pages (which does have unnecessary, anti-climatic explanation). The subplot is a story of love, loss, and waiting.

Here's the story...
Hatsue Imada was a childhood friend to Ishmael Chambers. Her parents were labourers on a stawberry farm; his father ran the newspaper—a fierce defender of Japanese Americans.

Early on the kids have...more

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Oct 23, 2007 Colleen rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: lit-fic

Overall, I was disappointed by this book. It could have been amazing, but Guterson doesn't seem to be able to create a compelling story or fully flesh out his characters. His greatest strength may be his ability to convey place - not in his occasionally overwrought, almost painfully flowery metaphors and similes, but in the rare moments where he captures the essence of the Pacific northwest in small but important details, simply stated. His language is evocative and moody, and there's no questio...more

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Feb 10, 2009 Donna rated it 3 of 5 stars

Finally, FINALLY, a critically acclaimed, award-winning book that has a good, upbeat ending. I liked the courtroom drama and murder mystery of this novel and how the past leading up to it was effectively interwoven into the story. I learned a lot about American attitudes in the 1940s and 50s, particularly related to Pearl Harbor and the effect of that and WWII on Japanese Americans and how they were treated.
One drawback--there were some sex scenes and obscure details about character's sex lives...more

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Apr 24, 2008 Kathy Kaylor rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: fiction

There is a breath taking story buried in the details of this book. My suggestion is buy the Cliff Notes. This book is written like really early fiction, so filled with detail that you almost miss it when a plot point crops up. I almost quit this book when I had to read a page and a half (I may be exaggerating here) of description of the glimpse of the living room the sheriff gets through the screen door when he is waiting for the lady of the house to answer his knock. He is there to tell her tha...more

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Jul 23, 2012 Shers Gallagher rated it 5 of 5 stars

I know this was made into to a movie; but, like always, an author's words are so much better, insightful and lovely to read. So to is author David Guterson's wonderfully inscribed tale of what happened to America when their suspicions got the better of their judgements. It's not only a sadly romantic and lovely read but provocative in today's climate of individual freedom slowly eaten away by trumped up fears in a poisonous social climate of mistrust and misinformation.

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Jan 31, 2009 Cary rated it 5 of 5 stars

This remains my favorite book that I've ever read. It has suspense, romance, heartbreak, injustice, you name it. In addition, the setting is in the pacific northwest where I live and relates the terrible story of how japanese americans were treated in this country during World War II.
Guterson's descriptions brought the story into vivid focus. Many of the agricultural references rang true to me, as some of the same practices were in place when I was a boy.
Interestingly, I read another of his bo...more

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Barbara Cary, I agree with you about the value of the story and the all-encompassing beauty of Guterson's descriptions of the people and the setting. It is al...more
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Oct 15, 2008 Angie Abdou rated it 5 of 5 stars

The last 150 pages of this book are brilliant. As I was reading the rest of it, I kept thinking that I would've enjoyed it more if I was reading it for personal reasons rather than for work. I'm teaching it in English 102 (not by choice) and I prefer to teach tightly contained books (this one is sprawling). English 102 is a first-year class and I'll probably have three ninety-minute classes to devote to this novel (at the most). We won't even scratch the surface. I used to teach Obasan -- a Cana...more

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Oct 02, 2007 Esther rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: borrowed

I enjoyed this book more than I expected to particularly as many reviews criticised the book for being over descriptive, a trait I normally find to be both pretentious and tedious in the extreme.
However this book's measured pace, slow but not plodding, left plenty of room for the for a detailed but restrained depiction of the weather and the countryside.

The element of mystery surrounding the court case held the narrative together as the author delved into the interlocking histories of the variou...more

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Dec 08, 2008 Jays rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: i-want-to-go-to-there

For a long time this was my favorite book. That's changed a bit over the years, but I still think this is one of the best novels that I've ever read. It's atmospheric and the not-really stream of consciousness style of writing just really appeals to me.

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Dec 19, 2008 Laura rated it 3 of 5 stars

This certainly helped me understand what many Americans were feeling after Pearl Harbor. Wow. I had no idea how the internment camps and other fall outs from the war had on fellow Americans.

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Mar 01, 2013 Mel rated it 4 of 5 stars

I confess: I picked this up at a secondhand store simply because it felt like I "needed" to read something that had been so popular and well received. Then it sat on my shelf. But when I finally picked it up, I was totally absorbed into the world that Guterson created. The characters were vast but easily distinguished, the "whodunit" felt believable and not overdone, and the setting was palpable through details that weren't overdone. I found it a refreshingly good read that struck a nice balance...more

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Aug 21, 2008 Natalia Smith rated it 1 of 5 stars

Dense, plodding, dull, and lifeless. The plot is buried under a mass of irrelevant description and pointless detail.

Guterson painstakingly describes every object, every person, every place, every building, every change in the weather, and the entire life history of every character who appears in the novel, in great detail and at great length.

Take out all that pointless description, and you'd be left with maybe six pages of actual story, and even that story would be boring.

Read To Kill a Mocki...more

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Jan 25, 2009 Fan added it

This story mainly takes about a trial between a native American and a Japanese American. Kabuo Miyamoto is the accused man. He was a soldier who defended Japanese Army in America Army. He is Japanese American and he can use stick to kill a man, he is very strong. He wanted to get his father’s 7 acres filed back from Carl Heine, the man who was considered being murdered. Once Carl was catching salmon, both of his two batteries were died. Then Kabou helped him and then made a deal about 7 acres fi...more

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Jan 04, 2009 Jackie rated it 5 of 5 stars

Guterson, David. 1995. Snowfalling on cedars. Vintage Contemporaries, New York. ISBN: 0-679-76402-X. A gift from retired English teacher, Shila ?
A novel taking place in the San Juan Islands, recounting the historical tragic removable of Japanese-Americans from their land during World War II. After the war in 1954 a local fisherman is found suspiciously drowned, and a Japanese-American is charged with his murder, bringing to the surface the memory of what happened to local Japanese-Americans dur...more

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Dec 22, 2008 Justin rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: 10-best-books-read-in-2008

This is certainly a contender for the best book I've read this year. On its surface it is the story of a Japenese-American on trial for the murder of a fellow fisherman, but throughout the book, even the bit players (Nels Gunderson, Etta Heine, other various trial witnesses) are infused with so much character that you feel you are one among the residents of the small island of San Piedro. I see that others have criticized the book for being overly descriptive. While it is true that Guterson can...more

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Dec 20, 2008 Allison rated it 4 of 5 stars

I put this book down for a couple months (oct and nov) because I had a book that I was supposed to be studying for work. When I picked it up again, I was flying home from Barbados - sent home because I'd been recently injured at work. What was the subject of the first chapter I read? Injuries. And at least the chapter after was about the snow storm that the island suffered through that winter. Me, I haven't seen winter in a long while and was returning to Northern Virginia after spending the las...more

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Mar 24, 2013 Mel Campbell rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: adapted-to-film, americana, fiction

Towards the end of 1994 I pulled this off a shelf in the Myer book department, based purely on the cover: a wonderfully evocative image of a mist-shrouded island. It's proof that a good cover can really pull in a reader. I found this book entrancing.

Bear in mind that I read the book with a certain teenage romanticism. But I was struck by the deeply melancholic atmosphere that David Guterson conjures, and the vividness with which he sketched the island landscape that became a formative emotional...more

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Mar 20, 2013 C rated it 4 of 5 stars

I picked this up because I really wanted to read something Japanese influenced and something from the 1950s, so this book fit! The snow is also appropriate for a NY January. This is not a book to follow the fifty page rule on (giving up on a book if the first fifty pages doesn't grab you.) The first fifty pages involve a murder investigation and the beginning of the trial, which wasn't terribly grabbing my attention. In my opinion, a good book doesn't need a murder to be a good book. I think so...more I picked this up because I really wanted to read something Japanese influenced and something from the 1950s, so this book fit! The snow is also appropriate for a NY January. This is not a book to follow the fifty page rule on (giving up on a book if the first fifty pages doesn't grab you.) The first fifty pages involve a murder investigation and the beginning of the trial, which wasn't terribly grabbing my attention. In my opinion, a good book doesn't need a murder to be a good book. I think sometimes it's an excuse to make the book more interesting. But slightly after page fifty, the book dives in, like one of the geoduck clams escaping into the sand that some of the characters here search for. The story takes place in 1940s-1950s San Peidro Island, off the coast of Washington. It follows the murder trial of a local fisherman who was found in the nets of his boat and the events in the past that led up to the trial. The accused is a Japanese man named Kabuo who farms strawberries. Of course, a Japanese man can become an easy target after World War II. Ishmael, the local reporter had a relationship with an island girl since he was a kid, but right before being sent to the internment camps, she doesn't think she loves him. Ishmael enlists in the Marines during WWII to try to forget her and loses an arm. The loss of his arm bothers him because it bothers other people. This is one of the many examples of the best qualities of the book: the psychological details that really go an extra step in figuring people out. My copy was interesting because not only did it have Japanese notes in pencil, but it was bought in a Tokyo bookstore. I kind of cringed at times, thinking how this book portrayed the Japanese in the 1950s American point of view. In the 1887 census, the Island didn't bother with the names of the Japanese, they just labeled them as "Jap Number Three" or "Dwarf Jap". And then, there were the internment camps. (Somehow the part of the book taking place in the internment camp was very short.) My favorite part of the book is the descriptions of the strawberry farms and the sea, walking through the woods in the rain after a day of strawberry farming. I love the image of the local sheriff stopping by the side of the road to pick raspberries. This book reminded me of 'Birdsong' by Sebastian Faulks: both books feature love affairs until they are shattered by war. 'Birdsong' is more World War I, French & British while 'Snow Falling on Cedars' is more World War II, Japanese & American. Both books even have a harrowing war battle scene in which the characters are told that the planes will take care of the enemies and they won't have to fight much, most of it will be over before they get there... of course, it never works out that way. I love this book for its setting and psychological details. I didn't love it for its murder mystery, because a good book like this one doesn't need it. Winner of the 1995 Pen/Faulkner award.(less)

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