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Histoire de la Sexualité 2: L'Usage des Plaisirs (The History of Sexuality #2)

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In this sequel to The History of Sexuality, Vol. 1: An Introduction, the brilliantly original French thinker who died in 1984 gives an analysis of how the ancient Greeks perceived sexuality. Throughout The Uses of Pleasure Foucault analyzes an irresistible array of ancient Greek texts on eroticism as he tries to answer basic questions: How in the West did sexual experience ...more
Paperback, 350 pages
Published 1997 by Gallimard (first published 1984)
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Suha

تاريخ الجنسانية و احد من أكثر الكتب الفكرية التي استمتعت بقراءته. بالتأكيد يرجع الفضل في ذلك لجدارة الكاتب في طرح و تحليل هذا الموضوع بالإضافة لإهتمامي الشخصية في الموضوع كحالة إنسانية و فكرية.
يقدم هذا الجزء من مجموعة تاريخ الجنسانية المنظور اليوناني لها. حيث يوضح فوكو الفضاء الذي تعامل فيه اليونان (بصفتهم أجداد للثقافة الأوروبية و المسيحية المقبلة) معها، مؤكدا أنهم بالرغم من إقرارهم بالعلاقات المثلية بالإضافة للزواج الشرعي، فإنهم عاملوا الجنسانية كموضوع للمتعة و إنشغلوا بسبل أستعمالها الصحية و
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Mr.
Foucault's continuation of his impressive History of Human Sexuality looks into the sexual mores and practices of the Ancient Greeks, and attempts to understand the development of sexuality as a moral problematic. Contrary to the conventional wisdom which posits a complete epistemic reversal from the Hellenic world to the Christian world, Foucault poses a more complex network of interconnections between the two paradigms, which lie in a valuation of asceticism. Although The Use of Pleasure is on ...more
Ernest
This was a lot more interesting than volume one. The subtitle should have been "The Use of Pleasure in Ancient Greece" or "Same-sex Sexuality in Ancient Greece" or something along those lines.

If Foucault had set a broader scope -- let alone settle with modern, and less-obfuscating terminology -- he would have summarily concluded the following:

"It is important to emphasize that people who engage in same-sex sexual practices do not necessarily have a homosexual orientation. The same-sex sexual act
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Jasreet Badyal
Apr 14, 2011 Jasreet Badyal rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Philosophy, Political Thought, Ethics
Recommended to Jasreet by: Professor
I read this for a political philosophy course on sexual ethics as the last work after thinkers from the following categories: Greek, Christian, new natural lawyers, and liberalism. It was part of a combined senior undergraduate and graduate seminar.

I really enjoyed how Foucault offers a different way to understand Greek sexual ethics and a different way to understand sexual ethics in our own time. This is one of the last works he wrote before he passed away, so at times it does end up feeling ru
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Oliver Bateman
A fine short survey of classical Greek sexual thinking, yet Michel Foucault's work with these primary sources isn't as impressive as it is with materials from the 17th and 18th centuries. A heavy reliance on two major 1970s-era histories by KJ Dover seems to suggest that Foucault isn't so much breaking new ground as sowing seeds in already-fertilized fields. All in all, though, this was a worthwhile and interesting read, even if it wasn't as provocative as Volume 1.
Daniel
Jan 29, 2013 Daniel added it  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Daniel by: LaBuff
I met this guy at a party who wanted to do nothing but talk about Foucault (I didn't like him very much). HIS opinion was that Foucault was awful. I wouldn't say awful, but he is not easy to read. If I met Foucault at a party, I would probably like him as much as I did that guy who insulted him. But he wrote about interesting things.

No rating because I skipped about half the book. Oops!
Zizo Ghoname
يعطيك هذا الكتاب فكره عن مدى مرونة ومطاطية كل شئ متعلق بالنفس البشريه
بداية من الاخلاقيات ونهاية الى الاذواق والتابوهات المجتمعيه
ويتجلى هذا واضحا في توجيه الكاتب نظره تحليليه
لبعض النصوص المتعلقه بالجنسانيه في المجتمع اليوناني القديم بشكل خاص
Benjamin
Less theoretical than the first volume, but it's up to other readers to decide whether that's a good or a bad thing. Foucault presents a history of the "problematizations" of sexuality in ancient times, from marriage to health, homosexuality and love. Foucault doesn't promise a complete analysis but a survey of the key issues that had arisen in ancient Greece. As with his look at Victorian values, the question is not how sexuality was viewed in these eras, but how such a thing as "sexuality" was ...more
Kathleen
this book is a bit like a rorschach test: people tend to read their own issues into the work. do you have issues with homosexuality? then you'll probably read this as foucault's justification of homosexuality based on man-boy love in greece. do you have issues with reactionary, 1970s style feminism--by which i mean, is that the kind of feminism you practice? then you'll probably read this as an infuriating book because it doesn't address women as the central focus of the book.
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Jacob Rabas
First I should note that I am not really concerned with the accuracy of Foucault's interpretations of ancient Greek texts or even with sexuality as a topic of study. I'm not a Classicist so I can't comment on the empirical validity of the work. However, I am interested in understanding the truly original aspects of his work, mainly his theory of power, subjectivity, and the concept of discourse. In The History of Sexuality 1: An Introduction Foucault provides us with a sketch of his notion of po ...more
María Iparraguirre
En este segundo volumen Foucault expone todos los aspectos de la sexualidad y acoge las dimensiones de una antropología general del placer, sin olvidar la dimensión económica de la sexualidad ni su adscripción a un orden jurídico y social; estudia además el estatuto del matrimonio y la organización del hogar. La obra concluye con un tratado de erótica y una reflexión sobre lo que habría de ser el amor verdadero.
Lawrence
In the second volume of his History of Sexuality, Foucault primarily explores the axes along which sexuality was problematized in ancient Greece. He discusses three fields of practice: the regimen of the body, the household management of marriage, and the courtship of young men. He identifies three “techniques of the self” (251) by which sexual conduct was modulated: dietetics, which calls for a “moderation defined by the measured and timely use of the aphrodisia” (251), by which an individual m ...more
David Bird
This book broke the spell of Foucault for me. In works like Discipline and Punish  The Birth of the Prison by Michel Foucault he wove a net from works that were unknown to me. Who was I to question his readings?

Here I finally saw him at work on an author and text I knew, and when I looked at what he did with Xenophon, I found his reading of the Oeconomicus was bizarre and tendentious.

Fully escaping from Foucault would take me until The Greeks & Greek Love  A Bold New Exploration of the Ancient World by James Davidson but this was the start.
Sandy
This book is one of the few books that actually makes me angry. Foucault abandons his life's work and theory of power so he can glorify man-boy sexual relations in Ancient Greece. I don't care that he has that view of it, but he just becomes one more writer who wants to say it is ok that HE is gay because the Greeks were pedaphiles (not the same thing as gay and a very poor argument by the way). Foucault completely ignores the inherent hierarchy in the man-boy relationship and only at the end of ...more
Erik Graff
Jun 15, 2013 Erik Graff rated it 3 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Foucault fans
Recommended to Erik by: no one
It does indeed seem to be the case that many of the ancient Greeks and Romans were oblivious to what we see as the ethical issues pertaining to human sexuality. Of course, given our limited sources, it is difficult to generalize with a high degree of certainty. What we have was written by elites and filtered through elites over centuries when women were regarded as inferior, adulthood started earlier, marriages were frequently arranged and various forms of slavery (often including a sexual compo ...more
Neil Turner
Again, not one of my favorite topics that Foucault wrote about or critiqued.
Stephen
Excellent historical analysis and tight argumentation on an interesting and important theme in Western culture. The discussion of pederasty is particularly revealing in the way that pleasure is "problematized" when its economy intersects that of a male-dominated state's power structure. I feel that, in its patience and seeming indirection, Foucault's text comes closer to revealing truths apropos the mechanisms of societal and ideological change than any theorization of modern culture could. A ge ...more
Nikki
overrated lesbian hating misogynistic tripe.
Wess
OH my goodness. If you like learning as much as you thought possible about a thing--not just getting tastes and teases that make you go "hm" but being forced to read on to more vague generalizations--this is the kind of book for you! There is a real commitment to truth in the way this book is written, and through it I discovered exhaustive texts are much more exciting and thought-provoking for me than grand, short summaries of fields of thought. Can't wait to read the other three volumes!
Rachel
Has some important insights, but Foucault's over-reliance on Attic prose substantially weakens his arguments - note that he doesn't even mention Sappho! And he quotes from the tragedians maybe twice? There are many classicists of the past few decades who have done much better work on ancient Greek sexuality. Foucault is more interested in making a point about the world that he lived in than in actually understanding the way the Greeks lived.
Darren
However tedious this read is, I guess it is important to recognize that Dionysian orgies weren't all the rage in Ancient Greece. Although as I recall, this book is basically focused on the 5th century BC. The birth of Platonism: no spare spuge allowed. But I guess the same probably went for the the Pythagoreans. Oh, who the fuck knows. This book is boring.
Aaron
Good. Not world-rocking, like volume 1 was, but this examination of what the Greeks really thought about sexuality was useful and cleared some things up. I think the focus on moderation was in line with what I know about ancient Greece from other sources, and the gender issues/domination issues are interesting for thought.
Chris Hearn
Of all of Foucault's "Histories", this is the most straightforwardly historical, and has little or no underlying philosophy. Still, useful, informative, etc. Halfway through Georges Bataille's Eroticism at the moment, which is more critical, though provoking, expansive; comes more highly recommended.
Bill

This is much easier to read, comprehend & enjoy than volume 1.
Ovidiu
What I see as the best part of the book is the idea that the Ancient Greeks constructed their morality on the principle of moderation as a virile approach towards pleasures. To dominate pleasures was a manly thing to do, since it was an active attitude.
Aeisele
Nov 02, 2007 Aeisele rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Anyone who likes the Greeks
Shelves: philosophy
This is a transition point for Foucault. He looks at Hellenistic greek thought (through the medical literature, and other "practical" literature), and tries to show all the various possibilities open to people for their "aesthetics of existence."
Jason Jensen
Overall a rather dry study of sexuality in antique Greece. Though I appreciate the thoroughness and the aims of the overall project it makes for mostly boring reading. The conclusions sums up the main points but isn't thought-provoking.
Hudi
Sudah agak-agak lupa apa isinya. Maklum dah lama banget. Bukunya aja mungkin udah ilang. Tapi yang jelas, Foucault orang yang pertama membahas sexuality dalam kaitannya dengan filsafat dengan mengkaitkannya dengan kekuasaan dan moral.
Dan
A short, straightforward work that analyzes the relation of sexuality to social power. Worth reading not only for the good clear writing, but also for Foucault's original take on sexuality as an object of knowledge.
Rick
Focuses on attitudes toward sexuality in Greece, ca 400 BCE. Less malleable than the first volume. Informative and interesting, challenges modern preconceptions/stereotypes about the sexual mores of Ancient Greece.
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