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What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry

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Most histories of the personal computer industry focus on technology or business. John Markoff’s landmark book is about the culture and consciousness behind the first PCs—the culture being counter– and the consciousness expanded, sometimes chemically. It’s a brilliant evocation of Stanford, California, in the 1960s and ’70s, where a group of visionaries set out to turn com...more
Paperback, 336 pages
Published February 28th 2006 by Penguin Books (first published 2005)
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Natali
First the good: A very inspirational read for anyone who loves computers and history. Markoff tells the the underground tale of how personal computers evolved out of a (sometimes illicit) counterculture in the 1960s in the San Francisco Bay Area. The story made me homesick for the independent, creative, and brilliant spirit that permeates the Bay Area. I am proud to be from there.

Now a few drawbacks: The book is a little hard to follow because there were so many players. I really wanted to know...more
David Spencer
This book is amazing, it details the rise of personal computers and the internet out of psychedelic drugs and counterculture in a way that actually sort of depresses you when you see the couple of forks in the road at which, under slightly less...personality-driven decision-making, we'll call it, the personal computing industry could have been the lifesaver upon which the counterculture could have grasped as it began to drown in military-industrial command economic tyranny's bloodocean, along wi...more
Jon

The author wrote this in the same way in which I often write my essays: I start with a preconceived conclusion and generally try to shoehorn the rest of my essay into it, despite reality differing a little from what I though.


The rise of computers was undoubtedly parallel with the rise of the drug culture and the New Left, and many of the first computer scientists were active participants in these movements; however, it seems that by the author's sporadic intermingling of these separate events,

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Kevin O'Brien
This was just a fun break from serious reading, but I quite enjoyed it. Before Steve Jobs, before Bill Gates, there were the real pioneers who gave us personal computers, people like Doug Engelbart, who probably did more than either of the above. This is the story of those unsung folks. And of course all of this took place in the Bay area around San Francisco just as the anti-war and hippie movements were active. It was not an accident that these things happened in the same place at the same tim...more
Angela
Psychedelics and computer history, two of my favorite topics. This book would have been improved if I'd had the patience to chart a timeline while I was writing it, I think, because as other reviewers have stated, it's very difficult to keep track of the main characters. The structure isn't organized strictly by time (it jumps back and forth between years, particularly towards the end) or by subject (making it difficult to remember who a particular player is, when their only previous appearance...more
Brett Provance
This is a fun book. I have read it a few times, and have now incorporated it into my California History course, as it complements material on the Bay Area's cultural history, and it especially offers a solid knowledge base concerning the establishment and development of the industries of Silicon Valley. Indeed, one of the more groundbreaking insights that I gained when reading this work is the undeniable and significant involvement of government-financed projects in developing the foundational c...more
Nick Sweeting
Great book, it lays out the history and impact of the silicon revolution by following the tales of several radical radical academics. These researchers piloted the future of computing into uncharted territory, accelerating research by experimenting with using LSD as a problem-solving aid. A good read if you enjoy an anecdotal story-telling style, on a very interesting topic.
Luis
This is less a book and more a string of anecdotes - a little birdie once told me that even the author admits it was basically an excuse to string together a bunch of great stories he’d heard over the years. But they are great anecdotes and give a lot to chew over, especially in light of the continued tension between personalized v. centralized computing - a recurring theme of the book. Should be read paired with Regional Advantage: Culture and Competition in Silicon Valley and Route 128 to help...more
Pamela Day
Great read. History of Silicon Valley - history of computing.

Markoff is a great writer and will introduce you to the brilliant and interesting folks. You will learn of the philosophical division of computing improving our lives or replacing us. This and many other threads are still driving us (no pun intended!).

We stand on their shoulders - take the time to learn about them, and in turn about us.

If you have *anything* to do with technology, or want to read this book. Cannot recommend it enough.
Brian Vaughan
The San Francisco Bay Area has a long history as a center for the political left and the counterculture. It is also an important center for the development of computers and the Internet. The heyday of the counterculture, the late sixties and early seventies, was a critical moment in the development of computer technology. How did the wave of popular social transformation influence the development of computing, itself a source of further significant social and political transformation?

Unfortunate...more
Penny
The degree of information organization in this book stunned me. John Markoff did a remarkable job of weaving a massive number of story lines (sequential and not, connected and not) -- all a part of the primordial soup that gave rise to the PC. The detail and complexity of people and roles, if mapped, would resemble all the tributaries that pour into the Missouri River. I'll admit that after 2/3 of the book, I lost track of who was who, but what was more important to me was how the many different...more
Jacob / Julie
I highly recommend this book to anyone interested in the history of technology, and how society shapes and is shaped by technology. It's hard to imagine in this era when computers are everywhere -- laptops, phones, video games -- and where people have personal access to their computers that it used to be that computers were something to be afraid of, these cold-war-era behemoths that only large corporations or governments possessed and which took teams of people to maintain. This book gives a gl...more
tamarack
Nov 12, 2007 tamarack rated it 3 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: geek-curious
i read this book in the kitchen nook over my midday meal on non-work days. it's a pretty rad documentary of the birth of computer technology in hippie-radical berkeley. i kind of felt just-along-for-the-ride on this book since i can't begin to keep all the names and profiles straight as markoff moves through decades. there's no particular protagonist, and it's not a biography unless it's a biography of The Computer. regardless, i do enjoy the ride.
it's somehow encouraging to read of the altruist...more
Alistair
This was an interesting and thought provoking book that filled in a few details that I hadn't known before. A worthwhile, if slightly exasperating read.

On the other hand, the writing is chaotic, disorganized and repetitive. The author's thesis that LSD is linked to most of the interesting people is more like noting who wears neckties. (Not really relevant?) People are identified and its noted if they've done LSD... nothing about whether that had positive or negative effects on their lives/work/c...more
Brian
What the Dormouse Said is an attempt to try and tell how the personal computer developed out of the 1960's counterculture. Sadly the author becomes so fixated on one person that he misses his chance to tell the great story. No author has yet to be able to capture the development of the personal computer but this book does have most of the salient elements. From the development of the ARPA net to the IBM 650 we can see the computer industry cloacae. The need for the killer app or the internet is...more
Donald Guy
A pretty decent book. Overall I would say it is an excellent foil to the first half of Stephen Levy's Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution. This book kind of tells the early west coast story that parallels the early MIT chapters of Hackers and gives a nice run up to the more in-depth discussion of Homebrew forward in Hackers. There are figures given a lot of attention here brushed over in Hackers and vis-versa. This book is sadly not quite as well structured, opting to try to give more dep...more
Andrew
Fascinating look at the often unheard birth of the personal computer. The book does a great job of painting a realistic picture of what the Bay Area tech scene looked like during the social revolution of the 1960s. My only gripe was that it was a bit long winded and referenced too many people that may or may not have been important to the overall story. If you are interested in computers and social movements then this book is perfect for you!
Daniel Lovins
Tries to link invention to personal computer with LSD subculture. Result is sort of two books in one, with occasional overlap, rather than a single narrative thread. In the preface, Markoff reviews two popular accounts of the origin of the PC: the Homebrew Computer Club in San Francisco, beginning in 1975, with Steve Jobs, Stephen Wozniak, et al. And Xerox PARC in the early 1970s, which Jobs visited in 1979 and where he assimilated the idea of a graphic user interface (p. ix). "Both stories are...more
Michael Dickens
This book gives a great history about the most important people and events leading up to the creation of the personal computing industry. I understand the culture behind computers much better thanks to this book. The narrative follows a variety of (often zany or unusual) characters and ties each character's impact into the central thread. I like the way the author ties together the different characters and shows where they interacted and how they affected each other.

The book was usually but not...more
Robert Traller
An interesting book for anyone interested in the history of personal computing and counter culture in the Bay Area. The book contains a plethora of names and bounces back and forth between developments in the computer industry, the anti war movement in the Bay Area, counter culture and experimentation with LSD. Each one of these threads seems to progress almost randomly so plotting progress is difficult. To then try and correlate is difficult. Steve Jobs was certainly not the only personal compu...more
Tommy /|\
Having first read "Fire in the Valley", I was a bit more in line with the various individuals that comprise this particular history. That said, Markoff provides a lot more information on the "why" to the story of the personal computer than "Fire in the Valley" did. Its the perfect follow-on to the academic aspect from "Fire". The storyline and characters come and go throughout the book -- and while it can be a bit confusing, the final chapter actually rolls a lot of the material into place. Seve...more
Steve Losh
A great guide to the events that lead up to Apple and co. Most stories about early personal computing start at Apple and go forward -- this one looks back a bit further. It's an inspiring story about the folks that kickstarted the PC industry with a lot of knowledge and a lot of drugs.

The only tough part is that this book covers so many people and jumps around so much that it can feel a bit disjointed at times. You'll be reading and then say "wait, who is this new person?" and realize that they...more
Liam
"In the late 1950s, however, McCarthy's notion was prescient and and similar to Doug Engelbart's Augmentation machine. However, they re,aomed fundamentally different concepts. At the deepest level, the question was whether humans would remain in the loop. Brilliant machines that could both mimic and surpass human capabilities were not what Engelbart foresaw, and although the two camps didn't directly quarrel they did pursue opposite agendas, representing humanist and mechanist ideas about the fu...more
Brian
It took me a while to get through this one...

The multitude of players and stories is somewhat difficult to follow, but overall the narration gives a decent impression of what the Stanford/NorCal scene was like, and who was involved, as computing technology was being developed.

A good bit of the history seems anecdotal, and the connections between counterculture and computer R&D seem strained. I didn't finish this book thinking that PC development was a direct result of any psychedelic experi...more
Anton Kroogozor
Другой такой книги о связи контркультуры и истории создания персонального компьютера, пожалуй, и не найти. Множество персонажей (в том числе и малоизвестных у нас), историй, неожиданных пересечений и стёба. Must read, в общем.
Joel
A good read. The book is not totally streamlined into a simple narrative which is both good and bad. A little hard to follow the thread sometimes, but the book has some real nuggets from computer history.
James
Early West-coast computer nerdery! Robots roaming the streets of Palo Alto! Sex and drugs! What’s not to like? When I first got access to the Internet back in the early 90s, I spent hours reading through resources like the Jargon File which told the unofficial (and usually funny and/or scandalous) stories of the early computer era. This is like that, only a little better researched. It’s a little difficult to follow at times, since it is trying to simultaneously follow a bunch of different kinds...more
Jon Merkley
Strictly as a historical piece, I really loved this one. I'm a technology freak and I love computers. To me, this book chronologically conveyed exactly what the title says; the counterculture and how it played a role in computing as we all know it today. This book really starts in the 50s and covers SAIL, MIT, and other places instrumental in early digital (and analog) computing history. More important than the places talked about are the people, though. I learned more about the people involved...more
Tom Schulte
I am finding this is making a great introduction to reading Walter Isaacson's biography of Steve Jobs. I never knew before of the radical activism of the genesis of personal computing: Computer power for the people! I also never knew that Bill Gates has been getting nicked by software piract since personal computers where solely in the domain of hobbyists. This books sheds light on the such important visionaries and innovators previously unknown to me as interface dreamer Doug Engelbart, ardent...more
Scott
I love reading books that talk about the history of my industry. This one is no exception. However, it focus more on the people and interweave the technological developments within. There are a lot of names to track, but there was a lot of, "Oh, wow! He/she created that!" I lived in the heart of this story in the early 90's, and have a hard time trying to imagine it being as described, but I'll bet it was a fun place to live and work in the 60's and 70's.

If you have interest in the emergence of...more
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