Watch (WWW #2)
Sixteen-year-old Caitlin Decter was born blind. But, thanks to an implant in her head, she can now see the real world—and also see webspace, the structure of the World Wide Web. There, she’s found a nascent consciousness, which she’s helped bring forth, letting it, too, see the world for the first time.
The consciousness takes the name Webmind. Caitlin’s parents know about...more
The consciousness takes the name Webmind. Caitlin’s parents know about...more
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April 6th 2010
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Part II of the WWW trilogy continues the story of Caitlin and the emergence of a consciousness within the internet. I enjoyed this book and kept wanting to read more but...[return][return]And this seems to be more true with every book Sawyer releases. There were times when this felt like a Canadian culture textbook, or a math textbook, or a physics textbook. His Canadiana becomes nauseating (and false in a lot of senses... believe it or not, but Canadians have heard of, AND READ, non-canadian au...more
May 08, 2013
Deborah Ideiosepius
rated it
3 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
cyberpunk,
fantasy-sci-fi
Quite an enjoyable book.
The concept is lightly sci-fi, without too much of the fi. Slightly cyberpunk without the punk and pleasant to read but with enough content to keep you at it for a while. The core of the story is about the relationship between two individuals; Caitlin, who was born blind but has been fitted with a newly installed retinal implant which allows her to see the world, she can also ‘see’ the data of the net. Though the book calls it the world wide web. The other individual is...more
The concept is lightly sci-fi, without too much of the fi. Slightly cyberpunk without the punk and pleasant to read but with enough content to keep you at it for a while. The core of the story is about the relationship between two individuals; Caitlin, who was born blind but has been fitted with a newly installed retinal implant which allows her to see the world, she can also ‘see’ the data of the net. Though the book calls it the world wide web. The other individual is...more
Continuing the story stared in WWW: Wake, literally seconds after it concludes, we continue to watch how AI both enhances and complicates the life of our central character, Caitlin, as she learns to see in ways that she has never done before. The events that she involuntarily helped spawn in WWW: Wake start to spill beyond the confines of her immediate family and attract the attention of the world intelligence (i.e. spy) community, who find themselves threatened by Caitlin and her friends. Again...more
Much better than the first one. Okay the characters are still lame, and Caitlan's erstwhile romance made me roll my eyes, a lot. Give the author some credit, at least something was going on during one of the information dumps of this book, but I'm not sure a steamy first make-out session between teenagers is really the way I would have gone. Who has an initial romantic encounter while nattering on about web theory? On the other hand, Webmind, the AI presence, has introduced himself to the world...more
Like all Sawyer books, I read them because I love the ideas, love the plot, and I just cringe at the characterizations and attempts at descriptions.
I love that sawyer is canadian and sets his books in canada, except for the parts where he points out every stereotype about Canadians there is. And he's always describing things via brand names. No one goes to get a drink, they specifically go to get a pepsi; why? Is there now product placement in books? Once in a while, fine - but when the bulk of...more
I love that sawyer is canadian and sets his books in canada, except for the parts where he points out every stereotype about Canadians there is. And he's always describing things via brand names. No one goes to get a drink, they specifically go to get a pepsi; why? Is there now product placement in books? Once in a while, fine - but when the bulk of...more
I can deal with an author who believes in Evolution.
[which from a philosophical standpoint doesn't actually make sense. The language used when talking about evolution is the same type of language used for a deity. That says all I need to know].
However, when someone starts using disparaging/abusive language about those who don't agree with their viewpoint, then we have an issue.
Go read Darwin's Black Box for a good look at why "Evolution" isn't the god some seem to think it is.
Emerging minds. AI,...more
[which from a philosophical standpoint doesn't actually make sense. The language used when talking about evolution is the same type of language used for a deity. That says all I need to know].
However, when someone starts using disparaging/abusive language about those who don't agree with their viewpoint, then we have an issue.
Go read Darwin's Black Box for a good look at why "Evolution" isn't the god some seem to think it is.
Emerging minds. AI,...more
Jun 05, 2011
Mike Finn
rated it
4 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Shelves:
speculative-fiction
WWW: Watch (WWW, #2)WWW: Watch by Robert J. Sawyer
My rating: 4 of 5 stars
This continues the tale of Caitlin and the emergent AI Webmind. This is a fun book, easy to read, packed with ideas and with characters you care about.
This book is slightly more static than the first in the series. It allows itself the time for the protagonists to lay out their arguments and explore the issues.
If you are a sci fi fan, you will definitely get this book. If not, well you'll either become a sci fi fan or move...more
My rating: 4 of 5 stars
This continues the tale of Caitlin and the emergent AI Webmind. This is a fun book, easy to read, packed with ideas and with characters you care about.
This book is slightly more static than the first in the series. It allows itself the time for the protagonists to lay out their arguments and explore the issues.
If you are a sci fi fan, you will definitely get this book. If not, well you'll either become a sci fi fan or move...more
Three and a half stars, I think. Maybe four.
It's a good continuation from Wake, and the overall pace is good.
The characters are if anything too cleverly constructed so that they aren't boring.
And the, er, non-organic hero is a tad too Galahadish for my taste.
I liked that the government agents are reasonably competent but not any more than most people are in real life.
It's a good contrast to Caitlin, who has just enough flaws to keep her from being a Mary Sue/Tom Swift who can make an FTL st...more
It's a good continuation from Wake, and the overall pace is good.
The characters are if anything too cleverly constructed so that they aren't boring.
And the, er, non-organic hero is a tad too Galahadish for my taste.
I liked that the government agents are reasonably competent but not any more than most people are in real life.
It's a good contrast to Caitlin, who has just enough flaws to keep her from being a Mary Sue/Tom Swift who can make an FTL st...more
I waited a year for the second installment of the WWW series, and it was worth it. The biggest problem now is waiting another year for the finale.
On the whole, this is a great book - the series is clever and thoughtful, the protagonists are interesting and mostly understandable, and the ideas underlying the premise are profound. The only significant flaw in the writing is that there are a couple of cases where characters rant a bit in faux-socratic style about some ongoing liberal political issu...more
On the whole, this is a great book - the series is clever and thoughtful, the protagonists are interesting and mostly understandable, and the ideas underlying the premise are profound. The only significant flaw in the writing is that there are a couple of cases where characters rant a bit in faux-socratic style about some ongoing liberal political issu...more
When I read Wake 10 months ago, my initial impressions were of a lot of disparate threads. The AI, the blindness, the chimp, the Chinese, just to name the first few that occur to me now. I gave it a 4 star rating, because I enjoyed it. I wonder now if my own defences, particularly on the blindness thing, caused me to not allow it the breathing space it deserved.
This instalment is certainly a 5 star offering. There are no fewer threads and subplots, everything's still going on and the American go...more
This instalment is certainly a 5 star offering. There are no fewer threads and subplots, everything's still going on and the American go...more
Picking up where WWW:Wake left off, this book explores the development of WebMind and the U.S. government's involvement when they figure out what he is.
I really enjoyed the different storylines, WebMind's development and growth, Hobo's time of decision, Caitlin is a delightful person, and I enjoyed the vast array of topics covered from consciousness to game theory to computer programming and a rational logical theory for morality and kindness.
There were a few things that rubbed me the wrong way,...more
I really enjoyed the different storylines, WebMind's development and growth, Hobo's time of decision, Caitlin is a delightful person, and I enjoyed the vast array of topics covered from consciousness to game theory to computer programming and a rational logical theory for morality and kindness.
There were a few things that rubbed me the wrong way,...more
This is the second book in Sawyer's WWW trilogy. The third book WWW: Wonder is due out in April of 2011. This was another amazing book. Sawyer does a great job of packing in a ton of issues, both philosophical and political, that make the reader really think, while giving the reader characters that are interesting and easy to relate too. I loved this book. I listened to this on audiobook, which I highly recommend. The audiobook is exceedingly well done, with different voice actors for the differ...more
This was an excellent continuation of the story that was started in WWW:Wake. I felt that the characters grew for me into this book, where in Wake they felt underdeveloped. All of the storylines ran parallel to each other in the first, but in Watch, they started to intersect.
What I enjoyed about Wake and Watch was the premise: a teenage girl and her family interacting with a developing consciousness from the web. I liked that the consciousness was not portrayed as malevolent, and I hope that th...more
What I enjoyed about Wake and Watch was the premise: a teenage girl and her family interacting with a developing consciousness from the web. I liked that the consciousness was not portrayed as malevolent, and I hope that th...more
Jul 06, 2010
Alan
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Nascent intelligences
Recommended to Alan by:
WWW:Wake
I was relatively lukewarm towards WWW:Wake, the first volume in this projected trilogy, but Sawyer's upped his game with this one. Like its predecessor, WWW:Watch shows signs of having been written very quickly, but in this case the narrative rush works to draw the reader in quickly, too.
I'd recommend reading the first book before diving into this one; you'll want to be familiar with developments to date, even though I think it'd be fairly easy to pick up on what's going on, even coming in cold....more
I'd recommend reading the first book before diving into this one; you'll want to be familiar with developments to date, even though I think it'd be fairly easy to pick up on what's going on, even coming in cold....more
I like the story this book tells. Unfortunately, there were several things in the book that kept me from actually enjoying the book, so I cannot give it more than 2 stars. As much as I wanted the story, I found finishing the book tedious.
In my review of WWW:Wake, the first book in this series, I compared it favorably to another book with a smart young protagonist, Little Brother. I said that in comparison, Doctorow looks like he's trying too hard to be hip.
I must now say the same thing about Saw...more
In my review of WWW:Wake, the first book in this series, I compared it favorably to another book with a smart young protagonist, Little Brother. I said that in comparison, Doctorow looks like he's trying too hard to be hip.
I must now say the same thing about Saw...more
This, the second book in Sawyer's WWW Trilogy, is another exception to the rule of trilogies. It's actually a better read than Wake, the previous volume.
The plot focuses on Caitlin Decter and her relationship with Webmind, an emergent artificial intelligence spawned from the World Wide Web. Both these characters are extremely well-developed, although Sawyer seems to have given up trying to write a teenage girl and Caitlin talks more like a grad student. Most of the minor characters from Wake ge...more
The plot focuses on Caitlin Decter and her relationship with Webmind, an emergent artificial intelligence spawned from the World Wide Web. Both these characters are extremely well-developed, although Sawyer seems to have given up trying to write a teenage girl and Caitlin talks more like a grad student. Most of the minor characters from Wake ge...more
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I liked it better than the first book in most respects. It didn't have that magical feeling of discovery, both for Caitlin learning to see and for Webmind becoming, but it also didn't have as many annoying tics and rants. Caitlin didn't feel quite as much a real kid in this, she's just too much of a genius, too well-read and understanding, and her new friend Matt was worse because we didn't know him well enough for it to make sense. But Caitlin did feel real and immediate as a person; it's ironi...more
Yet another good book by Sawyer.
This book picks up right where the first one in the trilogy left off, with Caitlin realizing that Webmind is real, and that she alone can't keep the emergent consciousness busy, and the worry about what will happen to it if she doesn't keep it occupied.
She is much more trusting of her parents than most teenagers are, might have something to do with how much more she's depended upon them growing up, and the ups and downs they've been through with her blindness, so...more
This book picks up right where the first one in the trilogy left off, with Caitlin realizing that Webmind is real, and that she alone can't keep the emergent consciousness busy, and the worry about what will happen to it if she doesn't keep it occupied.
She is much more trusting of her parents than most teenagers are, might have something to do with how much more she's depended upon them growing up, and the ups and downs they've been through with her blindness, so...more
Very good follow up to WWW: Wake. Would be giving both Wake & Watch 3+ stars if the option were available.
Again, great characters; those from Wake carry forward and new ones are introduced. Even Webmind (the AI - Artificial Intelligence) is likeable! That's how good of a job Sawyer does at developing his characters; he makes an AI likeable!!!
You could definitely read this volume without having read Wake but, Wake in and of itself, was a good novel and worth the read.
I love how Sawyer interwe...more
Again, great characters; those from Wake carry forward and new ones are introduced. Even Webmind (the AI - Artificial Intelligence) is likeable! That's how good of a job Sawyer does at developing his characters; he makes an AI likeable!!!
You could definitely read this volume without having read Wake but, Wake in and of itself, was a good novel and worth the read.
I love how Sawyer interwe...more
Apr 29, 2010
Michael
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
science-fiction,
read-in-2010
Robert Sawyer's second installment in his "WWW" trilogy picks up right where "Wake" left off but, thankfully, does not fall prey to middle book syndrome.
If you've not read the first installment, there will be SPOILERS ahead for it. Can't really talk about book two without giving away the end of book one.
"Wake" ended with Caitlin Decker contacting the growing intelligence emerging on the World Wide Web. The second novel explores their growing friendship and the responsibility Caitlin feels to hel...more
If you've not read the first installment, there will be SPOILERS ahead for it. Can't really talk about book two without giving away the end of book one.
"Wake" ended with Caitlin Decker contacting the growing intelligence emerging on the World Wide Web. The second novel explores their growing friendship and the responsibility Caitlin feels to hel...more
Swayer is like chocolate covered in crack. i eagerly gobble up his novels. this is the follow-up to Wake, and he is already working on the third called, Wonder. WWW most appropriate given that this story is about a singularity - the leap that the neuron-like internet makes to become conscious of it's own existence. cool stuff.
in this one he revisits an idea he has touched on in the other novels - that of Big Brother. but he plays devil's advocate to the usual 1984 position, by reminding us of ho...more
in this one he revisits an idea he has touched on in the other novels - that of Big Brother. but he plays devil's advocate to the usual 1984 position, by reminding us of ho...more
It was after seeing the first book in this trilogy on the shelves at Barnes and Noble (when I was still shopping there) a few times that I decided to pick it up and read him, and I'm glad I did. I would have to say that Sawyer is probably one of the finest science fiction writers at work today. He takes lofty ideas and builds intriguing stories around them.
This is the second book in his "WWW" trilogy and it picks up right where the first one ended. Webmind, a nascent AI that has germinated on th...more
This is the second book in his "WWW" trilogy and it picks up right where the first one ended. Webmind, a nascent AI that has germinated on th...more
All in all a very good book especially for the second book in a trilogy.
I had feared that, now that Katelyn has her sight back, I'd lose the special interest Wake had for me as someone with low vision.
But no worries, I was as captivated with Watch as I was with Wake.
I still have trouble with how easy a time Webmind has with his own emergent structure and with understanding and communicating with humans.
While at the beginning of the book he did get into trouble, from that point on it was clear sa...more
I had feared that, now that Katelyn has her sight back, I'd lose the special interest Wake had for me as someone with low vision.
But no worries, I was as captivated with Watch as I was with Wake.
I still have trouble with how easy a time Webmind has with his own emergent structure and with understanding and communicating with humans.
While at the beginning of the book he did get into trouble, from that point on it was clear sa...more
This book continues right where the last one left off. The webmind continues to mature and so does Caitlin (boyfriend ...this drama is what I like least about the book, but it adds a sense of realism).
We get a little deeper into morals and such as the human friends of webmind struggle with how to help "him" be altruistic. I found it interesting how the teachings of Jesus are reinterpreted through a secular worldview in order to make them useful to webmind. Other approaches are also examined and...more
We get a little deeper into morals and such as the human friends of webmind struggle with how to help "him" be altruistic. I found it interesting how the teachings of Jesus are reinterpreted through a secular worldview in order to make them useful to webmind. Other approaches are also examined and...more
There are two things that Sawyer does right with this novel, and one thing he does wrong.
Unfortunately it is the one thing he does wrong which really stands out in the novel, to the point where the two things he does right can’t save it.
I’ll start first by listing the two things Sawyer does right.
1- He writes damn well.
This was mentioned in my review for the first book in the series, but since it’s a universal statement, I’ll say it again.
Sawyer knows how to write.
No matter what the subject matt...more
Unfortunately it is the one thing he does wrong which really stands out in the novel, to the point where the two things he does right can’t save it.
I’ll start first by listing the two things Sawyer does right.
1- He writes damn well.
This was mentioned in my review for the first book in the series, but since it’s a universal statement, I’ll say it again.
Sawyer knows how to write.
No matter what the subject matt...more
As exhilarating as the first volume in the WWW trilogy. This was one of those rare novels that, cliche as it sounds, I couldn't put down. Whereas the first volume's science focused on the emergence of consciousness, this volume focuses on game theory and the evolutionary function of consciousness. Despite the density of science, this book, like it's predecessor, is an effortless read with empathy and optimism that's rare in today's dystopian sci-fi landscape (Orwellian dystopias are another them...more
Jan 28, 2013
J.H. Walker
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
reviewed,
ya-sci-fi-and-fantasy
This is the second novel in a trilogy about a consciousness that emerges on the world wide web and the young girl who discovers it. In book one, Caitlin, a blind, precocious, teenager, gains sight via experimental technology in the form of an implant that interprets visual signals and feeds them to her brain. As a consequence of the procedure, Caitlin, can also see the world wide web space. There, this brilliant, young mathmatical prodigy discovers an emerging consciousness and begins communicat...more
May 21, 2012
Sam
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
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Review from A Journey Through Pages
If I had thought WWW: Wake was an absolutely amazing book, WWW: Watch is a masterpiece. Once again Sawyer inspires me to want to read more Science Fiction. Once again I am in awe over the amount of research and thought that went into creating this novel. The idea of an emergent AI is so fascinating, so much so that I was trying to have a conversation with my dad about it. I love all the media references that make the entire premise feel so real.
This time around...more
If I had thought WWW: Wake was an absolutely amazing book, WWW: Watch is a masterpiece. Once again Sawyer inspires me to want to read more Science Fiction. Once again I am in awe over the amount of research and thought that went into creating this novel. The idea of an emergent AI is so fascinating, so much so that I was trying to have a conversation with my dad about it. I love all the media references that make the entire premise feel so real.
This time around...more
The book is engaging, but a bit stilted. Actions and dialog come off as not quite authentic. Some of that is because the author is slipping in all kinds of scientific concepts and other ideas (autism! prisoners dilemma! evolution! spam! Stephen Hawking! up to and including politics and religion), both accepted facts and opinions. I don't mind it too much, as my opinions tend to be similar to his. But characters also think, say, and do things that don't seem realistic. Not to pick nits, but a ner...more
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Robert J. Sawyer is one of Canada's best known and most successful science fiction writers. He is the only Canadian (and one of only 7 writers in the world) to have won all three of the top international awards for science fiction: the 1995 Nebula Award for The Terminal Experiment, the 2003 Hugo Award for Hominids, and the 2006 John W. Campbell Memorial Award for Mindscan.
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